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Post by can't sit still » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:31 pm

:shock: You lascivious tart , you. :lol:
Just a note on senate bill 773.
"In addition, it will require professional IT people to be certified by the federal government, something that angers many IT technicians and those who believe in the First Amendment."
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news208.htm
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Post by geekster » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:57 pm

Yeah, there is some discussion in network operator circles over exactly what that "certification" will entail. Likely demonstrate the ability to put "lawful intercept" into place when demanded by the federal government.

People are going to get a real kick out of IPv6 when they realize they are no longer behind a NAT and their computers are all directly reachable from the Internet. Let the games begin!
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Post by can't sit still » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:43 am

Very interesting comment on the effect of the internet.
It's from an article on the internet and the power elite;
http://www.thedailybell.com/1204/Harry- ... igher.html

"Posted by John Danforth on 7/11/2010 10:02:35 PM

Nice interview. There are sea changes underway brought by computers and the internet beyond those mentioned.

Besides the crumbling of the information gateway of the mainstream press, there is the crumbling of brick-and-mortar colleges, with their economic gatekeeping and elitist control over thought and information as well. The cost of information is coming ever closer to zero, something never before seen in human history.

The difference between a candidate's debate on TV and unmoderated flame wars on the internet is that on the internet, the logical position eventually prevails, or at least has a chance to be aired. Thus internet-based schemes to spread misinformation and disinformation are ultimately doomed to fail (often comically).

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. So even with free information, getting the rabble to read and understand might be as impossible as ever. As long as the elite control TV, radio, and other forms of ENTERTAINMENT media, they might still exert a formidable amount of control over events. The problem for the elite is that, contrary to expectations, people use their computers for entertainment, flooding the network with porn and trivialities, thwarting any schemes for guidance and flooding attempts at broad surveillance.

Still, it is those who learn and use information that have the ability to affect the course of events. The decrease in the cost of information is washing the foundation from under brick-and-mortar instruments of control. The flood of mindless users buying ever more powerful machines and using them for mindless purposes simply serves to lower the cost of information further for those who would use it.

As the truth leaks like a sieve around the multi-billion dollar artifices erected to contain it, the emperor's new outfit increasingly becomes the subject of ridicule. The internet does help point out how ridiculous these schemes are. Enough people learn the truth and talk about it, and eventually the truth does reach the rabble. By the time Leviathan reacts by attempting to discredit us, it is already proving our point.

This is a sea change that avoiders of the internet won't perceive, even while they are affected by it.

I disagree with Schultz's take on technology. I'll just say it's obvious he doesn't have a background in manufacturing. Technology has reduced the cost to design and build machinery to less than 1/4 the cost of 30 years ago. Despite the destruction of our manufacturing base, the barriers to entry into small-scale manufacturing have been drastically lowered. And that is probably a good thing, considering what's probably in store for us."
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Post by can't sit still » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:42 pm

Maybe you've already heard. A great new idea for internet I.D.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162- ... 01465.html
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Post by can't sit still » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:46 pm

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Post by Rabbi Dali Rick » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:04 pm

or this, the "internet kill switch" bill is back on the table...

http://m.theage.com.au/technology/techn ... 1aah3.html


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Post by can't sit still » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:52 pm

It looks like people are starting to think of alternatives;
http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Communicate ... r_Internet
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:14 am

can't sit still wrote::shock: You lascivious tart , you. :lol:
Just a note on senate bill 773.
"In addition, it will require professional IT people to be certified by the federal government, something that angers many IT technicians and those who believe in the First Amendment."
http://www.newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news208.htm
Doncha know,, it's for our protection. :x
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-773
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.

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Teh Interent is dying...

Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:50 am

It doesn't really matter. Teh internet is about to sing its swan song.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... -ipv4-ipv6
The internet is full. Or, to be more precise, it has run out of new internet addresses – having used up almost 4 billion since being set up 40-odd years ago.

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Post by can't sit still » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:57 am

CROAK !
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Post by Lassen Forge » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:26 am

If it's in the Guardian it MUST be true...

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Post by LLQchasm » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:46 pm

can't sit still wrote:Sailman, I was at the DMV in Bend, Oregon. Evidently, they have so many indigent people that you can apply for a drivers license even if you don't have a residence. They just want you to put down some kind of location. Here is what they gave as an example; " I have a tent by 97 and Baker Rd."
Here's a good example from Vegas;
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fe ... Vegas.html
Just tell them that you live in the sewers.
Just pay someone a small amount to help them stay out of foreclosure so you can use their residence for DMV. There are so many people in foreclosure that this is becoming common practice. I'm not the only one out in the desert who decided to ditch their home to keep their cash from being taxed and their homes foreclosed on. This is quickly becoming a market to aid those in foreclosure. I know one guy who has put an ad in to this effect and has more than 100 people registered through his residence and that pays the mortgage for the month.

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Post by LLQchasm » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:23 pm

Toolmaker wrote:At this point I don't think they really are worried about "conspiracy" websites, they can always make a hollywood movie (or an aussie tv movie like "toxic skies") and folks will think its just more movie stuff. The more people become immune to things I think they are more likely to be accepting of them.

I think censorship on the internet will be enforced marginally at best. In the end the non-geeks will come to realize just how futile it is to try to excersize any control over the internet.
Interesting to see how things have developed in the last 2 years since the above post... Now we have Julian Assange, and one country (Egypt) who has pulled the plug on the internet. Govt authorities are taking the issue very seriously and are looking for ways to shut it down in case of emergency. Problem is that there are too many techies who know how to get around politicians and also have no respect for them.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:35 pm

Bay Bridge Sue wrote:If it's in the Guardian it MUST be true...
You're funny! :)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 88510.html

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Post by magic8ball » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:18 pm

we here get sometimes internet cut off for hours and days, and, think it is government.
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Post by can't sit still » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:29 am

Reportedly, the internet "kill switch" bill is now called "internet freedom". Has a nice ring to it, like the patriot act.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20033717-281.html
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Post by can't sit still » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:12 pm

Reportedly Bill Clinton and a lot of other people in GOV are sick and tired of all the BS on the net. They have a solution.
"Bill Clinton – the exemplar of truth in modern America – has proposed the establishment of a government "ministry of truth" – to be run by either the United States government or the United Nations – that would supervise the content of the Internet"

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e28326.htm
http://www.dailypaul.com/164805/bill-cl ... ternet-wow
Bill Clinton wouldn't know the truth if it came up and sucked his dick. :shock: :lol:
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