Pulled over in your mutant vehicle?
- Captain Goddammit
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Hi... possibly former margarita-seving art-car owner/operator checking in...
BM used to be FULL of "bar cars"! I didn't even realize at first that normal DUI laws applied out there in the middle of the desert. Remember, you long-timers? If you didn't feel like walking to a bar camp, you could just stand there and wait until one came by! Then in '02 or '03 while navigating through a heavy crowd I came upon a policemen who pointed to the glass next to me and asked "Sir, is that alcohol?" (It was one of my almost-famous margaritas) He informed me in very clear terms that drinking and driving was not tolerated even out there. While I WAS sipping on a margarita, I wasn't noticeably intoxicated and after some conversation he let me go.
Now, even before I knew that normal "street" DUI laws were enforced on the playa I wouldn't have driven my boat with very much booze in my system, but since that near disaster (I drive heavy trucks and machines for a living - a DUI would wreck my entire livelyhood) I either drive totally sober or I get a Designated Captain if I want to "party".
The cops didn't have any issue with my passengers. I don't know if the fact that my boat is constructed with the main passenger area separated from the driving position had anything to do with it, I think I had a few people out front with me at the time.
But the moral is, YEP, you can get busted out there, you need to operate as if you were on a city street with a patrol car on your tail.
I might even have to discontinue operation of the on-board blender.
BM used to be FULL of "bar cars"! I didn't even realize at first that normal DUI laws applied out there in the middle of the desert. Remember, you long-timers? If you didn't feel like walking to a bar camp, you could just stand there and wait until one came by! Then in '02 or '03 while navigating through a heavy crowd I came upon a policemen who pointed to the glass next to me and asked "Sir, is that alcohol?" (It was one of my almost-famous margaritas) He informed me in very clear terms that drinking and driving was not tolerated even out there. While I WAS sipping on a margarita, I wasn't noticeably intoxicated and after some conversation he let me go.
Now, even before I knew that normal "street" DUI laws were enforced on the playa I wouldn't have driven my boat with very much booze in my system, but since that near disaster (I drive heavy trucks and machines for a living - a DUI would wreck my entire livelyhood) I either drive totally sober or I get a Designated Captain if I want to "party".
The cops didn't have any issue with my passengers. I don't know if the fact that my boat is constructed with the main passenger area separated from the driving position had anything to do with it, I think I had a few people out front with me at the time.
But the moral is, YEP, you can get busted out there, you need to operate as if you were on a city street with a patrol car on your tail.
I might even have to discontinue operation of the on-board blender.
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- Rat Bastard
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ok, I'm posting now under the influence... My wife volunteered to be the DD for the drive home from the Duperbowl. Hence why my Irish ass had 3 pitchers of IPA. Yummmmmmm.
I'm putting the note out there right now.
VOLUNTEERS WANTED FOR DRIVING MY ART CAR SO I CAN GET DRUNK AND BE DRIVEN.
Any takers?
I know this is a quest for trouble... But I know how to test aplicants for this. There's a guy on the playa named Bill. Do you know his last name?
If you do, then you might be hired as a driver. Or if you know a certain doctor from Akron, Ohio.
If you actually do know either of these guys, prove it to me by writing me personally, OFFLIST. And if you're willing to be a DD for a bunch of perverts. (Perv references are a must)
Don't blow the secret by being a fool and answering here in public.
If and when I drive I WILL be 100% sober. However, I would also like to enjoy our "ride" with a few cocktails. Nothing like planning ahead.
Go Bears... Fire Rex Grossman yesterday. And Yada Yada Yada.
Blah blah blah.
BTW, for those who bitch and bitch and bitch... This is a valid and responsible question and the first person that pipes in with anything negative about my quest will also be the first to taste the playa dust off my fucking boot sole. I'm sick of reading posts from the "holier than thou" burners. I am untouchable unless I give permission. Got it?
g'night.
I'm putting the note out there right now.
VOLUNTEERS WANTED FOR DRIVING MY ART CAR SO I CAN GET DRUNK AND BE DRIVEN.
Any takers?
I know this is a quest for trouble... But I know how to test aplicants for this. There's a guy on the playa named Bill. Do you know his last name?
If you do, then you might be hired as a driver. Or if you know a certain doctor from Akron, Ohio.
If you actually do know either of these guys, prove it to me by writing me personally, OFFLIST. And if you're willing to be a DD for a bunch of perverts. (Perv references are a must)
Don't blow the secret by being a fool and answering here in public.
If and when I drive I WILL be 100% sober. However, I would also like to enjoy our "ride" with a few cocktails. Nothing like planning ahead.
Go Bears... Fire Rex Grossman yesterday. And Yada Yada Yada.
Blah blah blah.
BTW, for those who bitch and bitch and bitch... This is a valid and responsible question and the first person that pipes in with anything negative about my quest will also be the first to taste the playa dust off my fucking boot sole. I'm sick of reading posts from the "holier than thou" burners. I am untouchable unless I give permission. Got it?
g'night.
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- Kenny Z
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Okay, I got lazy and only read the first page so sorry if anything I said has been said before.
I first want to say that anybody considering bringing a mutant vehicle for the first time, it's a bigger pain in the ass and responsibility than you might think. Just wait until you have to stand in line at the BRC DMV (they do a good job though).
Last year my friend and co-builder couldn't make it. I was stuck driving it the whole time which gets to be quite a responsibilty. People think that just because you are going 5mph that it's easy to maneuver and avoid people. It's not! You have to be on your toes (especially at night) because not only are you avoiding people, you are also avoiding really, really fucked up people!
Last year, I ran into somebody. He was riding a bike and swerving all over. I was approaching at a 90 degree angle. All of a sudden he saw me and instead of riding past, he lost control and steered right into me. Mind you, when I saw him swerving I completely stopped the vehicle. Anyway, he starts going off on a rant and I can tell he is on something powerful by his speech and motor control. Finally I told him that it looks like we have two different accounts of what happened and we should get a ranger. Once I said that, he changed his tune and said "no, it's cool, no harm done" and rode off.
The point of my post is that you need to be able to focus 100% as it involves much more than surfing along at 5mph. Additionally, even if you think you are driving well enough to not get pulled over, if somebody else hits you and the authorities get invovled, you can bet they will check your status too!
I first want to say that anybody considering bringing a mutant vehicle for the first time, it's a bigger pain in the ass and responsibility than you might think. Just wait until you have to stand in line at the BRC DMV (they do a good job though).
Last year my friend and co-builder couldn't make it. I was stuck driving it the whole time which gets to be quite a responsibilty. People think that just because you are going 5mph that it's easy to maneuver and avoid people. It's not! You have to be on your toes (especially at night) because not only are you avoiding people, you are also avoiding really, really fucked up people!
Last year, I ran into somebody. He was riding a bike and swerving all over. I was approaching at a 90 degree angle. All of a sudden he saw me and instead of riding past, he lost control and steered right into me. Mind you, when I saw him swerving I completely stopped the vehicle. Anyway, he starts going off on a rant and I can tell he is on something powerful by his speech and motor control. Finally I told him that it looks like we have two different accounts of what happened and we should get a ranger. Once I said that, he changed his tune and said "no, it's cool, no harm done" and rode off.
The point of my post is that you need to be able to focus 100% as it involves much more than surfing along at 5mph. Additionally, even if you think you are driving well enough to not get pulled over, if somebody else hits you and the authorities get invovled, you can bet they will check your status too!
- oneeyeddick
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This is a very good thread! Is it sticky? If not maybe it should be!
I know the Nevada driving laws fairly well but I MIGHT have thought differently at BM...
i e seemingly tiny details like open containers of potential pasengers..things like that.
I am a non-drinker & DD, period end of story! I will be looking for disabled/hurt burners while I am mobile...ice toting/tired ones too!
PM's from Veteran burners are welcome (only if you have time, ok?)
I have had verbal advise about this and will be getting much more but learning even more, before the burn, is more than welcome!
I am now concetrating on getting my gear together but I DO have time for this subject!
I know the Nevada driving laws fairly well but I MIGHT have thought differently at BM...
i e seemingly tiny details like open containers of potential pasengers..things like that.
I am a non-drinker & DD, period end of story! I will be looking for disabled/hurt burners while I am mobile...ice toting/tired ones too!
PM's from Veteran burners are welcome (only if you have time, ok?)
I have had verbal advise about this and will be getting much more but learning even more, before the burn, is more than welcome!
I am now concetrating on getting my gear together but I DO have time for this subject!
I'm the MAN in a truck, burner who is stuck, you're in luck! I'll whip out my BIG tow chain and not charge you, not even one lousy buck!
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- Kenny Z
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You will be okay Bluemandrew. Take a deep breath, rub your ben wa balls and go to your happy place.Bluemandrew wrote:I really hate when ancient threads get dragged back to the top and I get all angry reading them before I realize they're 5 years old.
- theCryptofishist
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Bluemandrew
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You all misunderstand me. The issue is that I missed the fight. I get all fired up to write a good response and realize whoever said something that I wanted to rebuke, said it 5 years ago.Kenny Z wrote:You will be okay Bluemandrew. Take a deep breath, rub your ben wa balls and go to your happy place.Bluemandrew wrote:I really hate when ancient threads get dragged back to the top and I get all angry reading them before I realize they're 5 years old.
The topic is just as relevant back then as it is now. In fact, probably more so because of the growing population. I saw the post and gave it rebirth, guilty as charged. I'll give you my camp address this year and you can come by and spit on me.
Takes the wind right out of my sail.
And I love sober people driving art cars. I have enough trouble not walking into shit out there nevermind operating a suped up parade float.
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Very well put!theCryptofishist wrote: Computer boards are wierd in that you don't really have the face to face interaction that creates trust on a biological animal reading each other level and whole levels of conversation are missing. That creates a sort of edginess that we would all do well to respect.
Especially for something that is sorta a hard thing to describe.
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Plan for the worst, expect the best. Make the most out of it under any conditions. If you cannot do that you will never enjoy yourself. ~CrispyDave