One probably doesn't.If there are cops around, how does that work with the MASH 4207 camp
Another point to draw your attention to is the mistake that a LOT of 1st time folk make when they hit the playa....Interesting. Another virgin here. Frankly, all the talk about booze, booze, booze bothers me a whole lot more than other drugs. I live in BC, so I guess it's not quite as 'illegal' here as it is in Nevada. I want drugs at BM, even if it's just a joint- alcohol and caffeine are not my drugs of choice. Of course, I can't bring anything with me. From the Piss Clear site, I got the idea that it wouldn't be too hard to find any. If there are cops around, how does that work with the MASH 4207 camp (I'm just assuming it's a drug camp with the 420, I could be wrong)? Can anyone enlighten me on this? I definitely don't want to get deported from BM, and I don't want to be drunk either.
And part of what others call civil disobedience. I promise you, if one wanted to be strict enough about the various laws on the books it would be possible to close BM down without having to even glance at the e-playa.admin wrote:...
This is part of what many have alluded to when they speak of "stupidity". The conscious act of breaking the law to the probable conclusion of arrest.
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There's another mistake that experienced burners tend to make. That is assuming they're capable of arbitrating what Burningman is, and isn't. It is whatever each, individual participant makes it, for them. We're lying to ourselves if we don't see that there are lots of folk for whom it is one big party, and that's cool. And there's lots of others for whom it's about public art, other's for whom it's about sex, other's for whom it's about community, and so on. But none of us, not even what's his face in the cowboy hat, get's to define what BM is. It is what every participant makes it, every year, seems to me. And, like any city of 30K, that means it's just about everything we can make it...Badger wrote:...
Another point to draw your attention to is the mistake that a LOT of 1st time folk make when they hit the playa....
There's an idea - an assumption - which seems to be fueled by either media reports or less than informed friends of friends that the event *is* about drugs and sex and anarchy.
Yeah, but I don't need help on the playa. I suspect that any help that I did need would not be rendered by law enforcement.The point about being friendly to all BRC fuzzies is a good one. These people are mainly there for safety and probably do a lot more good in terms of keeping the peace and providing communication for emergencies than they do busting of hippie skulls. The more at ease the whole force feels, the better. So thank them for being there. Sure you could get busted. But the odds that this person helps you is higher.
So am I the only heretic to suggest that I'd just as soon they NOT be there? Welcoming them would be the purist form of hypocrisy that I could ever muster. I can easily (and readily) acknowledge that their presence is by necessity - required according to the stipulations outlined in the event permit but to suggest that I want them there just ain't where its at as far as truth telling.So thank them for being there.
Ron point is very good!Ron wrote:There's another mistake that experienced burners tend to make. That is assuming they're capable of arbitrating what Burningman is, and isn't. It is whatever each, individual participant makes it, for them. We're lying to ourselves if we don't see that there are lots of folk for whom it is one big party, and that's cool. And there's lots of others for whom it's about public art, other's for whom it's about sex, other's for whom it's about community, and so on. But none of us, not even what's his face in the cowboy hat, get's to define what BM is. It is what every participant makes it, every year, seems to me. And, like any city of 30K, that means it's just about everything we can make it...Badger wrote:...
Another point to draw your attention to is the mistake that a LOT of 1st time folk make when they hit the playa....
There's an idea - an assumption - which seems to be fueled by either media reports or less than informed friends of friends that the event *is* about drugs and sex and anarchy.
Ron
I am not looking at and relying on camps as a shopping venue- I'm not that stupid- even at the parties I go to regularly, I don't do that.
Glad to hear it.
I guess it ends up being all about how you read it. Unfortunately, the playa has more than its share of folks - most of them newcomers - who arrive thinking that it *is* a venure where you can just walk into a camp and assume you'll be treated to whatever is available. The vast majority of folks don't behave this way and the numbers in the minority haven't been so large as to make it a problem yet but they do exists. And it *is* funny to see the occasional cluetard get 'the treatment' from camps that have no mind for such self-absorbed behavior.
I personally don't care who does what to who, as long as they're all consenting. You're getting my own POV confused with my anticipation of the cops reactions.precipitate wrote:> Between men no less, ug.
Ah. So if two chicks decide to assfuck each other with pool cues it's much
more legal?
I'm the last person to cry nonjudgmental, but fer fuck's sake have a little
respect for alternative lifestyles, even if Nevada law enforcement doesn't.
They're not trying to fuck your ass, after all.
hiding in plain site, i see. hmmmmmmmmmm 8)stuart wrote:that blows.
last year we had a bust in our village early on. Rangers informed us that we were now being watched by BLM. We had a party on Tuesday night and sure enough we spotted a BLM vehicle parked out beyond our camp. I smoke Drum (handrolled tobacco) on the playa. I new they was watchin and I knew they would likely misstake my actions (twsiting something up into paper in my lap) for rolling a joint. So, before I rolled each smoke I would hold the Drum package above my head with the label facing the BLM folks for a good 5 seconds so they could discern my actions in their binocs. Don't know if this was over the top at all but it made me feel a little better.
After having undercover cops wander THROUGH my sleeping area twice (it looked somewhat like a walk-thru if my privacy flap was not down) I am a bit annoyed by their "job" (presumably looking for someone doing something illegal because once they were talking about "finding where it was coming from" before they saw me. I was NOT the source)skypilot wrote:letting the smoke drift out into the open)what exactly do you think a cops's going to do when it's out in the open and shoved in his face? being in law enforcement, i will simply do my job
on the other hand... this is where i must say... some victimless laws need not be enforced... and it is left to the LEO's discretion.skypilot wrote:god....i love all of you people, but concerning the dope or sex issue(doing both out in public or letting the smoke drift out into the open)what exactly do you think a cops's going to do when it's out in the open and shoved in his face? being in law enforcement, i will simply do my job-expect anyone else in uniform to do the same thing. you should expect to get busted if caught-it's just that simple. YOU decide if it's worth the risk, and if caught, YOU assume responsibility.
