The things you like most about burner culture
The things you like most about burner culture
For me
1) Lack of halfassery. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
I was at preheat, they constructed a big oven thing for the burn. When I asked if it was sound enough for my 300+ lb(at the time) ass to walk around on, the response was "yea, it's fine." And it was.
2)Openness. This needs no explanation.
3) The art of the remix. The creativity is amazing, and not just the art projects. Want some funky shoes? Cut up some bunny slippers. Anything and everything can be funky-fied.
What are your favorites?
1) Lack of halfassery. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
I was at preheat, they constructed a big oven thing for the burn. When I asked if it was sound enough for my 300+ lb(at the time) ass to walk around on, the response was "yea, it's fine." And it was.
2)Openness. This needs no explanation.
3) The art of the remix. The creativity is amazing, and not just the art projects. Want some funky shoes? Cut up some bunny slippers. Anything and everything can be funky-fied.
What are your favorites?
The true burner culture and how genuine they are. Restored my son's faith in humanity. He thought I was a rarity in how giving and caring that I was. When I took him to his first burn "wow, can't believe how true hearted these people are." Granted, in the wave of bodies ebbing and flowing at the event there are those that just surf the culture. I seek out the ones that are immersed in it.
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I like how there are so many different cultures co-existing out there without attempting to enforce their culture beyond their borders. Hushville has no generators, but they don't go around bitching at other camps/villages for having them, for example. You may express whatever culture you like within the confines of your camp but have no right to enforce your culture on someone else. I wished people here behaved that way.
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I am surprised that you have entertained my point of view for as long as you have. I have underestimated you.
You may think I'm a troll. But I actually strongly believe in the opinions I've posted here.
There are two sides to every story. There are two opinions for every event.
It saddens me that the general consensus here is that business and the private sector is bad. It saddens me that most here think that corporations are bad. They are unaware that most small businesses are corporations consisting of one member but are still treated by the same rules that govern the very large corporations.
It's sad really. Small business AND large businesses together help drive our economy. And I have no problem with either. Stop attacking the engine of our economy and let's get back to work. Our current situation is unacceptable.
BQ
You may think I'm a troll. But I actually strongly believe in the opinions I've posted here.
There are two sides to every story. There are two opinions for every event.
It saddens me that the general consensus here is that business and the private sector is bad. It saddens me that most here think that corporations are bad. They are unaware that most small businesses are corporations consisting of one member but are still treated by the same rules that govern the very large corporations.
It's sad really. Small business AND large businesses together help drive our economy. And I have no problem with either. Stop attacking the engine of our economy and let's get back to work. Our current situation is unacceptable.
BQ
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There are 3 sides to every story, both of theirs, and the truth.burningquestions wrote:There are two sides to every story. There are two opinions for every event.
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It saddens me that the general consensus here is that business and the private sector is bad.
Yer wrong. The majority of burners realize that BM is a CORPORATION and are fine with it. There is a difference between a company doing good things and one like wal mart.
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chuckling.Laughing Forest wrote:That some of the bigger un-medicated cranks that post here don't actually end up coming after all of their year long lip flapping.The things you like most about burner culture
The spectrum runs from A to Z
nice to see ya dropping in LaF.............
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This springs from a misunderstanding of one of the Ten Principles.burningquestions wrote:I am surprised that you have entertained my point of view for as long as you have. I have underestimated you.
You may think I'm a troll. But I actually strongly believe in the opinions I've posted here.
There are two sides to every story. There are two opinions for every event.
It saddens me that the general consensus here is that business and the private sector is bad. It saddens me that most here think that corporations are bad. They are unaware that most small businesses are corporations consisting of one member but are still treated by the same rules that govern the very large corporations.
It's sad really. Small business AND large businesses together help drive our economy. And I have no problem with either. Stop attacking the engine of our economy and let's get back to work. Our current situation is unacceptable.
BQ
People have distilled decommodification into "all commerce is bad". Not so, and one look at the resources edition of JackRabbit speaks shows how much Burning Man supports those providing goods and services to burners. What is protected is their trademark, although derivative works such as man-schwag are allowed. There's commerce on the playa, the BMORG throws the party, they make the rules on what is and is not allowed there. There's subtle (well ...) commerce here on eplaya, I'm one of the main watchdogs for that. You can ask for money for a rideshare, but you can't sell panda shoes. You can recommend a good deal, you can't sell your own shit. And so on.
The gift economy is an ideal. For one week, we can pretend it works, and it is lovely. The lack of vendors and advertising banners is refreshing. We can incorporate gifting into daily life, but most of us are consumers and readily admit the fact. Others do their best to live by the ideal, if they can pull it off, great. Life is compromise. These days, I can barely stand to go to "art fairs"!
Decommodification
In order to preserve the spirit of gifting, our community seeks to create social environments that are unmediated by commercial sponsorships, transactions, or advertising. We stand ready to protect our culture from such exploitation. We resist the substitution of consumption for participatory experience.
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That's just too cute to be true. Yeah, it's a nice feel-good fiction.Clar-i-ty wrote:If he's not a Burner, he should be...
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The thing i like most about burner culture is how people find ways to:
~twist something religious, mundane, or all-to-common into something riotously funny
~make something that's brilliant, yet simple
~take something that's small and cute and multiply it by 1000 and make it into something that's huge and awesome
~twist something religious, mundane, or all-to-common into something riotously funny
~make something that's brilliant, yet simple
~take something that's small and cute and multiply it by 1000 and make it into something that's huge and awesome
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1-The insane art. The fact that no matter how fucked up and weird an idea I come up with, there are a thousand+ on playa that I would never in a billion years come up with.
2-People. The fact that I can meet someone in BRC, hang out with them for 1-9 days, and now have someone that is a friend/sibling/soulmate for life. A wise muppet named Gonzo once said, "There's not a word yet for old friends that just met." I never really understood that phrase to it's fullest until I came to BRC.
3-The fact that I can get away with everything I do & say out there, and not only still have friends, but have friends that love me even more for it.
Oh, and the snark. I love the snark.
2-People. The fact that I can meet someone in BRC, hang out with them for 1-9 days, and now have someone that is a friend/sibling/soulmate for life. A wise muppet named Gonzo once said, "There's not a word yet for old friends that just met." I never really understood that phrase to it's fullest until I came to BRC.
3-The fact that I can get away with everything I do & say out there, and not only still have friends, but have friends that love me even more for it.
Oh, and the snark. I love the snark.
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When I ask how many burns, I mean at BRC.
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that my "betters" will see fit to talk, and even be friendly, to me.
I feel, at times there (and here), intellectually impotent.........
yet, out there, I can walk up to so many of the "mental giants" from here, and, they graciously visit, take time from their day, and, befriend me.
It's the giving, open, accepting nature, of the playa, I like most.
I feel, at times there (and here), intellectually impotent.........
yet, out there, I can walk up to so many of the "mental giants" from here, and, they graciously visit, take time from their day, and, befriend me.
It's the giving, open, accepting nature, of the playa, I like most.
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ygmir wrote:that my "betters" will see fit to talk, and even be friendly, to me.
I feel, at times there (and here), intellectually impotent.........
yet, out there, I can walk up to so many of the "mental giants" from here, and, they graciously visit, take time from their day, and, befriend me.
It's the giving, open, accepting nature, of the playa, I like most.
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It was great having breakfast with you, i was actually coherent at that juncture on the space time continuum.
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Yggy- this talk is not allowed. You, my friend, are fabulous, and the feeling of being "impotent" (lord I hate that word....) here is mutual. I always thought of myself as a third-stringer on eplaya, then I get to the MnG and discover people are excited that I was there.ygmir wrote:that my "betters" will see fit to talk, and even be friendly, to me.
I feel, at times there (and here), intellectually impotent.........
yet, out there, I can walk up to so many of the "mental giants" from here, and, they graciously visit, take time from their day, and, befriend me.
It's the giving, open, accepting nature, of the playa, I like most.
Thats how I felt about meeting you.
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and, therein, lies my point, my joy, at what this "event/society" is........"culture"? well, perhaps.
But, the fact is, (I speak for myself, but, perhaps, for others), There are so many here, I look up to, admire, as such.
And, in the sense we all look at ourselves, and others, only through our own eyes, I see those folks as people to emulate, to learn from, and to appreciate.
And, in that sense, I feel the "underling".
And, perhaps, the truth is, we all bring strengths (and perversions) to the table, in our own way.
But, the fact that so many here, folks who've been here much longer, and are undoubtedly more educated, and worldly, will still take one, such as myself into "the fold", and, show kindness and friendship........
well........
that's just swell.
Even when we don't agree, most of us can still find common ground and respect anothers opinion, although, maybe not understand it.
That, my friends, is what I mean.
That, my friends, is what I cherish.
That, my friends, is love, so clean.
That, my friends, shall never perish.
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But, the fact is, (I speak for myself, but, perhaps, for others), There are so many here, I look up to, admire, as such.
And, in the sense we all look at ourselves, and others, only through our own eyes, I see those folks as people to emulate, to learn from, and to appreciate.
And, in that sense, I feel the "underling".
And, perhaps, the truth is, we all bring strengths (and perversions) to the table, in our own way.
But, the fact that so many here, folks who've been here much longer, and are undoubtedly more educated, and worldly, will still take one, such as myself into "the fold", and, show kindness and friendship........
well........
that's just swell.
Even when we don't agree, most of us can still find common ground and respect anothers opinion, although, maybe not understand it.
That, my friends, is what I mean.
That, my friends, is what I cherish.
That, my friends, is love, so clean.
That, my friends, shall never perish.
burma shave
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