good.. fuck the police.AntiM wrote:That's why you're supposed to be radically self-reliant and bring your own.Casanova wrote:i wished i could have found the guy with the LSD bottle while i was there.. lol, wasn't alot of it going around.
You do know law enforcement reads this board too, don't you?
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ask before spritzin
I think I have an issue with this whole "don't invade my space" concept. On the one hand, I get it, don't force your desires and experiences, no matter how well meaning, on others. On the other, I feel like people need to have their boundaries challenged, and spritzing, well, that's a small challenge.
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Although this has been covered by disparate posts, I'd like to connect the dots in one post.
LSD in pure form can be trans-dermal, but not all that potent. LSD can be diluted in water and administered via spray but it's entirely ineffective. The amount required to provide an effective dose (at least 1 full hit worth, 80 to 120 micrograms I'd say) per spritz, times the number of sprays in even the smallest mister, means that there would be so much LSD required that it's 1) cost prohibitive (I know the math on that one) and 2) the person handling the mister would be tripping too hard to do anything but melt before they could effectively dose anyone if they actually had that much pure liquid LSD in a mister bottle.
A, ah, "friend of mine" was (with his permission) given oral doses via super soaker (ah, Dead Tour...) and it was successfully sprayed directly into his mouth and.... nothing happened. Someone with a couple extra sheets and a water gun could do the deed but it doesn't really work well.
And finally, trans-dermal LSD dosing in an environment where liquids, particularly mists, evaporate so quickly would make this an impossible task. In other words, in a very dry desert climate. LSD is so inefficient at penetrating the skin, plus the high evaporation rate (this IS why misters make you cool, after all) means any drugs would evaporate off your skin before they could penetrate.
I know, spray the eyes, not the skin. That's still not accounting for how much liquid LSD would be required to put into the mister bottle in order to provide an effective dose. Even the smallest mister bottle, let's say 8 ounces, would have to be at least 25% LSD as a rough guess... that's 2 fluid ounces of LSD. That's going to cost way more money than anyone would spend to just give away, much less face felony charges for administering to unwilling participants.
This thread is akin to the "There's meth and heroin in the exstacy" rumor you constantly hear. The math, economics and social realities make this a virtually impossible and a completely counter-intuitive urban legend.
LSD in pure form can be trans-dermal, but not all that potent. LSD can be diluted in water and administered via spray but it's entirely ineffective. The amount required to provide an effective dose (at least 1 full hit worth, 80 to 120 micrograms I'd say) per spritz, times the number of sprays in even the smallest mister, means that there would be so much LSD required that it's 1) cost prohibitive (I know the math on that one) and 2) the person handling the mister would be tripping too hard to do anything but melt before they could effectively dose anyone if they actually had that much pure liquid LSD in a mister bottle.
A, ah, "friend of mine" was (with his permission) given oral doses via super soaker (ah, Dead Tour...) and it was successfully sprayed directly into his mouth and.... nothing happened. Someone with a couple extra sheets and a water gun could do the deed but it doesn't really work well.
And finally, trans-dermal LSD dosing in an environment where liquids, particularly mists, evaporate so quickly would make this an impossible task. In other words, in a very dry desert climate. LSD is so inefficient at penetrating the skin, plus the high evaporation rate (this IS why misters make you cool, after all) means any drugs would evaporate off your skin before they could penetrate.
I know, spray the eyes, not the skin. That's still not accounting for how much liquid LSD would be required to put into the mister bottle in order to provide an effective dose. Even the smallest mister bottle, let's say 8 ounces, would have to be at least 25% LSD as a rough guess... that's 2 fluid ounces of LSD. That's going to cost way more money than anyone would spend to just give away, much less face felony charges for administering to unwilling participants.
This thread is akin to the "There's meth and heroin in the exstacy" rumor you constantly hear. The math, economics and social realities make this a virtually impossible and a completely counter-intuitive urban legend.
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absolutely! but don't expect logic and reason and sensibility to change the burner-mindset: "bad men out to get me" (women). "bad men out to get our women" (men).
it's how burners bond - i'm-a-victim meets i'll-protect-you, and then they get married.
most hipsters and yupsters (ie burners) don't frequently do drugs any more intense than half a hit of ecstasy in a safe environment. so when they get out on the playa and start to feel a bit spaced-out (due to sleep depravation, dehydration, and general playa stress), the princess automatically leaps to the conclusion that bad spray-bottle-man dosed her way to the porta-potties. this is a much more sensible explanation to the hipster-brain than perhaps the little darling should be taking better care of herself (which would require personal responsibility, so you see...).
sounding the 'i've been dosed alert' is also a signal to the male hipsters in camp to come to her rescue (also secures forgiveness from other females in camp who were getting sick & tired of her). the boy who effectively rescues the damsel, gets to marry her on saturday night before the burn (although she won't be having sex with him - she'll be having sex with the guy in the next camp who has the best drugs).
the 'LSD in the spray bottle legend' serves too many positive purposes. it also helps groups and single women vilify innocent single men (the common enemy - very important to have in a 'community').

it's how burners bond - i'm-a-victim meets i'll-protect-you, and then they get married.
most hipsters and yupsters (ie burners) don't frequently do drugs any more intense than half a hit of ecstasy in a safe environment. so when they get out on the playa and start to feel a bit spaced-out (due to sleep depravation, dehydration, and general playa stress), the princess automatically leaps to the conclusion that bad spray-bottle-man dosed her way to the porta-potties. this is a much more sensible explanation to the hipster-brain than perhaps the little darling should be taking better care of herself (which would require personal responsibility, so you see...).
sounding the 'i've been dosed alert' is also a signal to the male hipsters in camp to come to her rescue (also secures forgiveness from other females in camp who were getting sick & tired of her). the boy who effectively rescues the damsel, gets to marry her on saturday night before the burn (although she won't be having sex with him - she'll be having sex with the guy in the next camp who has the best drugs).
the 'LSD in the spray bottle legend' serves too many positive purposes. it also helps groups and single women vilify innocent single men (the common enemy - very important to have in a 'community').

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Re: ask before spritzin
how would that correlate, with the challenge of pulling my foot out of your colon, after I kicked it up that far?uncle sticky wrote:I think I have an issue with this whole "don't invade my space" concept. On the one hand, I get it, don't force your desires and experiences, no matter how well meaning, on others. On the other, I feel like people need to have their boundaries challenged, and spritzing, well, that's a small challenge.
just sayin'........
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I was offered mistings. I took most, declined some, and always asked "Is it child safe?" I never felt there had been anything but water.
I kept my cup covered - who wants to drink dusty coffee?
I don't think all men are rapists, and I'm from that generation. I don't even think most are. I do think a few younger folks take advantage of good looking women by dosing them with ecstacy. I'm pretty sure they don't care about dosing me, lol. The RangerLeo dude does make some good points.
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I kept my cup covered - who wants to drink dusty coffee?
I don't think all men are rapists, and I'm from that generation. I don't even think most are. I do think a few younger folks take advantage of good looking women by dosing them with ecstacy. I'm pretty sure they don't care about dosing me, lol. The RangerLeo dude does make some good points.
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Lol.
But that's the great thing - you can do it your way, I can do it my way, and everyone else's way is okay, too~~ I just like remembering the good times! I've forgotten too much in the past and wondered if I had a good time, so now I prefer to remember.
[quote]mournlight wrote:
Always be safe and apply a heavy dose of common sense!
SilverOrange replied:
You're doing it wrong.[/quote]
But that's the great thing - you can do it your way, I can do it my way, and everyone else's way is okay, too~~ I just like remembering the good times! I've forgotten too much in the past and wondered if I had a good time, so now I prefer to remember.
[quote]mournlight wrote:
Always be safe and apply a heavy dose of common sense!
SilverOrange replied:
You're doing it wrong.[/quote]
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