US Gypsum to close. Gerlach to dry up and blow away?

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:55 pm

TomServo wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:This the one, Tom? It's from '72.
[youtube][/youtube]
I just went to youtube and plugged "gerlach" into the search function.
'72...close enough. Yep that's it. Thanx! I was 1year old!

I was told they lit that building on fire for the making of this movie.

If true, I guess that makes them prehistoric burners.

Does anyone know if that is true?
Did they actually light that building on fire for the movie?

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:02 pm

moonrise wrote:
TomServo wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:This the one, Tom? It's from '72.
[youtube][/youtube]
I just went to youtube and plugged "gerlach" into the search function.
'72...close enough. Yep that's it. Thanx! I was 1year old!
I was told they lit that building on fire for the making of this movie.

If true, I guess that makes them prehistoric burners.

Does anyone know if that is true?
Did they actually light that building on fire for the movie?

If they did, were in the right place! The original Burners!

maryanimal · Post by **maryanimal** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:11 pm

Eric wrote:
maryanimal wrote:What about that year-round place close to BM where people live. I don't know where I saw it, but people live in mobile homes and it doesn't cost a thing to live their. Of course I could've been dreaming all of this.
I think you're actually thinking of Slab City, which is in the far south of California, near the Salton Sea. Nowhere near Burning Man, and not really a place most .... uh ....... lets just say "average" people would live.

That could very well be Eric! I remember reading or looking at photos and I could've sworn the said it wasn't far from BRC. Oh well, there wasn't many folks living there anyway.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:04 pm

Methinks she is talking about Permaburn.

http://permaburn.org/

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:19 pm

TomServo wrote:
moonrise wrote:
TomServo wrote: '72...close enough. Yep that's it. Thanx! I was 1year old!
I was told they lit that building on fire for the making of this movie.

If true, I guess that makes them prehistoric burners.

Does anyone know if that is true?
Did they actually light that building on fire for the movie?
If they did, were in the right place! The original Burners!

I remember who told me; it is the guy who runs Freinds of Black Rock Desert,
I cannot recall his name or exact title but he was set up at the Reno Decomp and had the videos running.
He also had some other early footage, it was all interesting stuff...some grainy videos of himself setting stuff up way, waaay back when...then a girl showed up and he got very distracted! Hahaha...down boy!
At that point I drifted back inside the club...left them to their freindly meeting~

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:40 am

I don't pretend to understand nevada politics, I just like the gun parts. Gerlach seems steeped in drama. Perfect for Burning Man. I know it first hand, and I will shut my mouth now.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:50 am

And since I've never been to a burn, I would love to visit Gerlach and Empire next year. Sure wish there was a way to help them.

Why don't you call Santa Clause? Or Jesus.

I'm sure that operators are standing by.

Post by **Sham** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:03 am

Badger wrote:
And since I've never been to a burn, I would love to visit Gerlach and Empire next year. Sure wish there was a way to help them.
Why don't you call Santa Clause?

I had a long talk with Santa about this when I saw him at the mall yesterday. He claims he knows nothing about this, but Santa knows everything, so he was lying to me. After a very long conversation while sitting on his lap, mall security came and took me to their magic room. I guess they never heard of Empire Nevada either!

EspressoDude · Post by **EspressoDude** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:06 am

I'm sure one of those folks in the video was Larry 'the Hat' looking into the Gerlach real estate market...

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:24 am

The first thing I heard of when this story broke was the guy who rehabbed the Empire Store and sunk so much time and money into it. This seriously sucks for him. But then again when I walked in their place post-rehab I saw a chaotically run store with massive room for improvement and an attitude that didn't look like it had been updated from the previous owners.

In short I guess this is karma's way of balancing her cosmic spreadsheet...it is what it is. Find a good bankruptcy attorney, say it was a good run and wait for the next Nevada ghost town book to come out with a new addition of Empire on it. With a situation this bleak cut your losses and move on. The odds of that plant reopening are slim....I'd have better odds winning MegaMillions and Powerball in the same week.

So Goodbye Empire! When I take my little boy through there in a few years it will be another historical footnote I can tell him about.

As for Gerlach...the only thing saving it from a similar fate IMHO is the fact UP's transcon is still there...those rails and the siding still give it a reason to be listed on the map. And as the true jumping off point to the Black Rock...it won't just dry up and blow away.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:27 am

lets all buy Empire............

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:43 am

ygmir wrote:lets all buy Empire............

Only if someone put up a storage facility that would make it possible for burners to store more stuff out there throughout the year. Then I would chip in...

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:45 am

seems there a few rather large buildings there now..........

and, why can't "someone" be "us"?

maybe even change the name of the town?..........

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:44 am

Ygmirville has a nice ring to it.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:45 am

I know the "ring" you're talkin' there fella........

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:52 am

And BTW, for those that commented about the store's "new" owners.

They are the same "original" owners, not new at all.

The guy that WAS running it for them just thought that he owned it, because of running it for so long.

Post by **Sham** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:40 am

Kinetic V wrote:
ygmir wrote:lets all buy Empire............
Only if someone put up a storage facility that would make it possible for burners to store more stuff out there throughout the year. Then I would chip in...

....and then in a few years when the Burning Man fesival makes plans to move to another location, you will end up with a vacant storage building. Maybe if Walmart puts up a superstore there, it will attract all sorts of other industries around it, and the employees will need lots of housing.

Post by **Sham** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:04 pm

oneeyeddick wrote:Ygmirville has a nice ring to it.

Dicktown, NV

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:05 pm

Eric wrote:
maryanimal wrote:What about that year-round place close to BM where people live. I don't know where I saw it, but people live in mobile homes and it doesn't cost a thing to live their. Of course I could've been dreaming all of this.
I think you're actually thinking of Slab City, which is in the far south of California, near the Salton Sea. Nowhere near Burning Man, and not really a place most .... uh ....... lets just say "average" people would live.

Interesting. I never knew of that place before.

Sorry to hear about US Gypsum closing and the effects it will have on those communities.

JK

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:31 pm

i smell an artist colony.....year round, a la Bisbee or Jerome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisbee,_Arizona

i'm in, i dont need to watch the video, just gimme my free ticlets to LarryLand and lets get on with it already.

Thecatman · Post by **Thecatman** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:39 pm

jkisha wrote:Interesting. I never knew of that place before.

If you look to your left, past the store, you'll see the loading area for trucks. That section of 447 that has about a 20' wide concrete "driveway" of sorts crossing the highway is part of the haul road for the haulpak dump trucks to take raw material from the mine to the plant.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:41 pm

SilverOrange · Post by **SilverOrange** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:54 pm

http://www.burningman.com/news/101203_empire.html

The company line...

Liz Estrada · Post by **Liz Estrada** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:04 pm

speed is of the essence, there are sharks circling.

burners do have resources, it's time to tap them, IMO.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:15 pm

If we can buy Empire, can I be the town Butcher?

Now that I think about it....I'm more serious about it than you may think. I've wanted to be a Butcher ever since reading "Busy day, Busy people" as a kid.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:17 pm

Oh, a sleeping drunkard
Up in Central Park,
And a lion-hunter
In the jungle dark,
And a Chinese dentist,
And a British queen--
All fit together
In the same machine.
Nice, nice, very nice;
Nice, nice, very nice;
Nice, nice, very nice--
So many different people
In the same device.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:25 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:Oh, a sleeping drunkard
Up in Central Park,
And a lion-hunter
In the jungle dark,
And a Chinese dentist,
And a British queen--
All fit together
In the same machine.
Nice, nice, very nice;
Nice, nice, very nice;
Nice, nice, very nice--
So many different people
In the same device.

I liked your first poem

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:28 pm

a place for everyone, and for everyone a place.

i am convinced that each person has a talent or knows something pretty much better than anyone on earth....

even if it is only one thing.

a special purpose....to do what one likes, and like what one does.

a town full of creative, vibrant Artisans doing what they do best sounds like Heaven, even if it's in the middle of Nowhere.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:37 pm

TomServo wrote:If we can buy Empire, can I be the town Butcher?

Now that I think about it....I'm more serious about it than you may think. I've wanted to be a Butcher ever since reading "Busy day, Busy people" as a kid.

we may have to put in a greyhound bus stop, then..........
Do you have a hockey mask?

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:38 pm

I'm in

US Gypsum to close. Gerlach to dry up and blow away?

$1.74?

Just Buy the Damn Thing.

the island of misfit toys.