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Post by stuart » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:07 pm

it is not illegal to posess absinthe (I think)

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Post by Ranger Genius » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:14 pm

Right you are, Stu. Absinthe is a class three: you can own it and consume it, you just can't sell it. You can make it, as long as you don't do any distilling (usually achieved by infusing the ingredients into an grain alcohol).
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Post by Selkie » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:28 pm

JezebelinHell wrote:
And now I have a question. What's up with all the absinthe bars out there? I mean, I love em and spend a good deal of time pounding shots there, but isn't absinthe still technically illegal in the states?
As far as I know, there are 2 different liquors called absinthe. One is made from wormwood and is illegal in the US (or at least most of the US). The other is pretty much a knockoff that made with various flavorings that is legal in the US. Most of what you'll find at absinthe bars is the fake stuff.
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Post by honeyfire » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:05 pm

Anyone else notice that aquariumgrl posted only on the first page of this now 7 page thread? And that having registered in Feb 04, with this thread started March 1st, that she has only 10 posts, of which half are in this thread?

Not that it has to mean anything...
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Post by JezebelinHell » Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:01 am

Dun dun dun!
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Post by technopatra » Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:21 am

Aqgirl got slammed pretty hard early on. I'm not at all surprised that she didn't return.

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Post by bushonk » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:10 am

Selkie wrote: As far as I know, there are 2 different liquors called absinthe. One is made from wormwood and is illegal in the US (or at least most of the US). The other is pretty much a knockoff that made with various flavorings that is legal in the US. Most of what you'll find at absinthe bars is the fake stuff.
I've gotta go with Stuart and Ranger Genius on this one. Absinthe is fully legal to posess in the US, you just can't sell it. Technically, it seems (and don't come crying if I'm wrong and you get busted) that it's legal to buy, just not to sell. Though from my reading it can be nabbed by customs as its coming into the country.

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Post by Selkie » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:23 am

I've always been puzzled about the laws that say you can possess a certain thing and you can buy a certain thing, but you can't sell a certain thing.

If you can't sell it, how the hell are you supposed to buy it? Is it just me, or does that make absolutely no sense?
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Post by blyslv » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:47 am

Sounds like this is a case for Wee Willie Wormwoodseed!

i.e., you can make enough for personal consumption.
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Post by stuart » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:32 am

you expect laws to make sense? As we speak we've got fucktards in congress telling us that civil unions are gonna be the death of this great society. Remember, this is where laws come from.

Anyhow,

you can buy absinthe, with the goods in it, from europe

you can also buy opium quite legally. Well, sort of. You can buy bushels of driep poppies. They are used as floral accents. Then just boil the shit down and viola.

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Post by Ivy » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:40 am

you can buy absinthe, with the goods in it, from europe
I'm not entriely sure, but I think how it works is that you're actually buying the *bottle.*

(which just so happens to have absinthe in it).

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Post by Selkie » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:45 am

Well yes, I suppose that was silly of me. I can think of a whole lot of other laws that don't make sense.

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Post by stuart » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:50 am

you're actually buying the *bottle.*

(which just so happens to have absinthe in it).
spot on

and some of the bottles are lovely

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:11 pm

stuart wrote:you expect laws to make sense?
I half way do. Perhaps the incurably idiot optemist siamese twin partially absorbed into my body part of me.

It seems to me that if we don't have law then what we end up with are custom and religious tradition. (If there is a difference.) And although it takes law a long time to catch up with reality (50 years of Plessy v. Ferguson, 100+ years of corporations as "persons," M'Naughton ~150 years behind psychiatrict science) that to some extent laws do change and are somewhat conscious. They can be discussed more easily than "God said it, I beleive it, that settles it." And it not only relies on random idiots in congress, but also on actual cases. Not that all law is good law, just that if I'm right about the other choices--give me law.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:15 pm

stuart wrote:you expect laws to make sense?
I half way do. Perhaps the incurably idiot optemist siamese twin partially absorbed into my body part of me.

It seems to me that if we don't have law then what we end up with are custom and religious tradition. (If there is a difference.) And although it takes law a long time to catch up with reality (50 years of Plessy v. Ferguson, 100+ years of corporations as "persons," M'Naughton ~150 years behind psychiatrict science) that to some extent laws do change and are somewhat conscious. They can be discussed more easily than "God said it, I beleive it, that settles it." And it not only relies on random idiots in congress, but also on actual cases. Not that all law is good law, just that if I'm right about the other choices--give me law.

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