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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:49 am

Patience wrote:The only racially hateful thing I've seen on the eplaya is this bit from A II Z's sig line:

""You are white because you are not of the sun, but are of the Darkness!""

(above formatting intentional. either you get it or you don't.)

Since you're so interested in making BM, or the eplaya, a hate free zone, can you explain why your sig line is (apparently) hateful toward caucasians?
Yeah, I was hoping that someone would bring that up!

Thank you Mr Sock for doing so.

First before I explain my sig tell me what is so offensive. Are you implying that Darkness is bad and the light is good?

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Post by Tancorix » Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:15 am

Patience doesn't appear to be a sock. He's never caused any problems on the board either. I think the Mr Sock comment if directed his way is unwarranted.

A II Z, in all seriousness, I'd reconsider making the sock acusations. Until you know absolutely positively that the character in question is a sock, I'd preface the comments with disclaimers. Sometimes things are not what they appear to be and comments like this can bite you in the butt.

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Post by Simply Joel » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:27 pm

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Post by Lark » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:32 pm

Et tu, Joel?

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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:35 pm

Tancorix wrote:Patience doesn't appear to be a sock. He's never caused any problems on the board either.
Patience is not a sock. I know him personally and he is quite awsome.



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Post by Glittering Clitoris » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:09 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
Tancorix wrote:Patience doesn't appear to be a sock. He's never caused any problems on the board either.
Patience is not a sock. I know him personally and he is quite awsome.



That is a fact.
Well one that's sure he's not of the color of the person in his avatar. I would find it a rare occasion for a black man to insinuate that Darkness is a negative.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:11 pm

Well that was dumb jethro replying in your sock!

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Post by stuart » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:11 pm

dude, I gotta tell ya, I see you bag on the christians and then go on about your super space, disease immune, psychic communicatin', galaxy hopin' gods. From where I am sitting, the whole lot of it looks like only so much scientology to me.

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Post by Patience » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:56 pm

Actually, Zeus, I took this quote:

""There's another creature rooming this earth and they will make fine higher life forms then the neaderthals that sadly roam this earth causing wars with lies and disceptions.

Why are they so light, because they are not the children of the sun, but that of the darkness! ""

to mean that you thought that the "neanderthals" were children of darkness, so took your sig line to mean that white people were those neanderthals causing wars, etc. etc.

Maybe I took it wrong, but I wasn't implying that "darkness" is a bad thing, or whatever garbage you suggested. I was attempting to interpret the poorly formed sentences you crapped all over this thread. Perhaps you can drop the pretentious bullshit for a moment and explain what the hell you're talking about?

As for the sock comment, I'm not even going to bother.

Oh, and glitterclit: I admit it. I am not Nipsey Russell.

I'm actually Wesley Snipes.
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STOP THE MADNESS PEOPLE!!

Post by Rob the Wop » Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:05 pm

First it was the blackboards, being marked by their white chalk oppressors.

Then the inevitable backlash, where black bowling balls knocked down groups of white pins.

Then the black asphalt being driven down, covered with deliberate white markings.

And finally, the white cream filling in an Oreo being brutally crushed between the black cookie wafers.

Oh God, when will it end! Please, King George (Bush) II! Use your wisdom and all reaching powers to turn everything into shades of grey! If we could just make everything look identical, we would have no more hatred!

Unless of course, you're a Bohemian. They may look jus' like us, but we jus' don't truck with their kind round here.
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Post by DVD Burner » Wed Jul 14, 2004 2:47 pm

Stuart....Rob.....That shit was really funny. :lol:

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Post by samtzu » Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:38 pm

Why a Hat Free Zone... what's wrong with hats? That sun beats down pretty damn fierce on the playa and brains will be cooked!! Some of those cooked brains will even begin to post messages on the ePlaya and make outrageous, semi-lucid statements about things that they know nothing about, but sound good because they say them with such conviction and determination, when they are probably responding to a misconception that was going on in their own heads, which they think is important (due to their loss of perspective, due to cooked brains) and wind up getting all huffy with people over something that was just a simple, easily resolved, misunderstanding. So, we should allow people to wear hats on the playa so we don't have to go through all this crap...

... Hate? Oh...

Never mind... :oops:
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:09 pm

Since you are Westly Snipes, a man known for his brutality and not the fun comic that Nipsey Russell is!
Patience wrote:Actually, Zeus, I took this quote:

""There's another creature rooming this earth and they will make fine higher life forms then the neaderthals that sadly roam this earth causing wars with lies and disceptions.

<<<I was speaking of neaderthat's that I am and you and GW Bush and Blair is a relative term. We lie and decive those around us. We post threads just to inflame our good nature. Maybe we just are neaderthal to what is those highly evolved beings that are out there in the universe and see that we may never have those qualities that other highly beings that are different looking then us can trust in a universe in which every higher life form is different. We look at blacks or orientals as though they are the aliens and they are us. The species that I have found that are at a higher life form then the primitive mammals we have evolved might hold that promise of the sixth sense of which lies and deception are impossible to an extent.>>>

""Why are they so light, because they are not the children of the sun, but that of the darkness! ""

<<<my take on this is that the human race is also a highly adaptable creature to environmental changes. When it comes to the exposure of ultraviolets we change very rapidly. When our ancestor left the tropics, they left a drastically hot and sun exposed region for the abundant herds at the edge of the continental ice sheets. The weather there was very cloudly much like it is where they still exist. Sunny days are very rare. With the sun, humans can change from dark skin to light skin and back again in only 40 to 60 generations. Being heavily clothed and migrating north into arctic regions where the sun shines for half of the year and the other half it is dark as night accelerates those acclimations of skin tone. Here in Montana, all you need to look at is the natives to look at the future of the white man here. Even without interbreeding with dark american's, they will not be white for long this place has much more sun then the Mediterranean region. White supremacists have come to the wrong place. You cannot stop evolution unless you alter genetically the composition of man.

So you see where my statement derives from, "You are white because you are not of the sun, but of the Darkness!"

I knew when I wrote it many people would presume different metaphors knowing that they would go off on tangents from my real intention. They might have related light = goodness and darkness = evil! That would be introspective of their own assertions of good/bad-dark/evil.

As for my badly formed sentences. I should be doing a rough draft on my word processor instead of doing it on the fly. I screw up my sentences because you are seeing left over fragments of my spontaneous edits. Sorry! They have been known to totally fuck up my intentions. Like leaving out a "NOT" here and there. to "I do">>>

As for the sock comment, I'm not even going to bother.
Oh, and glitterclit: I admit it. I am not Nipsey Russell.


<<<Uh, Glitterclit is me. that's my sock. she was suppose to be only posting in the The Resentfull, Non-Be-"Babe"-d Thread and I like a "Jetho" forgot to log out before I posted here. >>>
Stuart- it's all derived from Hellenic Religion. we believe that Zeus and the gods came from the stars. The Sciencetology people came up with it later or perhaps copied it from us. What you read in the books about our Gods are derived from very old and limited sources that have survived the christian burnings, not what Hellenism had evolved to. We were New Age before New Age was hip- actually before 9,000bc is when the first Gods appeared like Zeus and Apollo finally overthrowing the older Titan worshipers around 3-2,000bc.

And I don't hate christians, I just want them to know what the truth is of their past so they can move on and accept the ethnic religions of our and their ancestors as not some evil pagan god worshipers. No one got down on their practice until they became some religeous terrorist group (much like the caliphates of Islam and El Qaeda) in the 1st century and started their burnings. We would never do to them what they did to us. It is not our way. Intelligence, understanding, rationalizations and control of emotions like anger and hate, forming the perfect hero, Perseus, and to ascent (evolve) from those emotions like Heracles to be god like. Read the "Gods" thread there's a good summation there. But we are not New Age. We appreciation eastern, wiccan, jewish and other mysticisms but we don't believe in magic. Gods have their powers, but humans don't and are mortal beings. We cannot and aren't to be empowered with those powers because we are inferior to understand and use the powers wisely. Power corrupts and it corrupts fully. mystics want to change the weather without knowing that if you change the weather here what seems positive, it will effect somewhere else negatively. Best let the weather be.

You know, I have people here thinking that I belong to a new age group, called Church Universal Triumvirate (CUT). I tell them I believe in Heracles and they think I believe in the Ascented Masters of CUT. You might have heard of them, Jesus, Gandi, Mohammed, Moses and more. Gee, I thought Jesus was already a God and therefore didn't need to be ascented, but that is not my religion.

We don't believe in Karma of what most people think that it is. After you die you don't take your bad vibes with you anymore then a mentally handicaped person takes his handicaped physiology with him. A Killer or even a Hitler is a product of their enviroment. Like Babies born with defects. Their soul's become pure and are reborn again perhaps as a one cell bacteria or a slug, but we may all be needed as a bacteria or a slug on a planet that we are needed to create life and its evolutionary forms. Scientology just rediscovered what we knew or thought in parallel-evolutionary formation of religion
We too are a wholistic religion. we were just doing it before christianity brought one the darkages.

Thank you Stuart and Sensei for asking.

I will post the Scientology explaination in the Gods thread if you don't mind stuart.

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Post by Patience » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:30 pm

Oh... NOW it all makes sense.

You're a nutcase. Thanks for clarifying.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:36 pm

Dang, and I understood the Scientologists to be worried about body thetans in volcanos and the depridations of the evil tyrant Zemoo. Maybe I should re-examine their wise words.

And my favorite tidbit about CUT is that they inspired a mid-1990s Bozeman Montana band to call themselves Band Universal and Triumphant. God(s/dess/es) Bless Punk Rock.

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Post by stuart » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:33 pm

before 9,000bc is when the first Gods appeared like Zeus and Apollo finally overthrowing the older Titan worshipers around 3-2,000bc.

um, to my knowledge, this is not accurate. If I recall classes during my religious studies phase the oldest datable religion, in primitive form, is hinduism and it does not date back that long. Oh, unless you a purporting that timeline as historical fact. In which case I am gonna have to say...








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Post by chickenfish » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:00 pm

The Greeks were barbarians who stole their knowledge of religion from the Egyptians. We all know that the allmighty chickenfish from outerspace created life as we know it on earth. And he will come back! In the last days the mighty chickenfish will bellow from the heavens, and there will be a mighty wind, and all the people will explode with flatuence as the the rapture transports them to the mother ship, through a beam of divine dolphin energy, manifest by the crystal matrix. So it says in the book of Chickenfish, verse 23, page 7
chickenfish chickenfish you are not a pelican
chickenfish chickenfish your love is like a flea
chickenfish chickenfish your fins are so delicate
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Post by Silver 2 » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:14 pm

Ha! My dead uncle Fred created the universe last Thursday.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:32 pm

theCryptofishist wrote: And my favorite tidbit about CUT is that they inspired a mid-1990s Bozeman Montana band to call themselves Band Universal and Triumphant. God(s/dess/es) Bless Punk Rock.
They one of the better local bands and they still base from here.

Stuart- This is no documented dates because they predate written history, but the belief is they were handed down through rote from the original inhabitants to the early 1st tribe of greeks the archaens in the period of 2,000- 1,500 BC.

Chickenfish- Greeks Barbarians? Democracy, education and arts. Didn't anyone tell you the Chickenfish peoples were genetic creations of the fast food industies of early 21st century. Get you chicken and fish in one bit!

Silver- Fred has always been God along with God Bob or Bob God! You're off two weeks though on the creation of U.

Patiences- this is E-playa. Why be real all the time?

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:35 pm

I guess you did'nt notice Patience's avatar. :lol:
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Pythagoras was taught by Thoth

Post by chickenfish » Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:03 pm

The greeks WERE barbarians until they learned arts and science from the Egyptians who mastered the crafts. They then proceeded to act as if they created those arts and sciences, whilst diluting their essence into what we have left today. And the Chickenfish created your gods through genetic mutation in their spaceship from outer space. The muppets did a loose version of this mythology albeit they replaced "chickenfish" with "pigs"
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chickenfish chickenfish your fins are so delicate
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:44 pm

I thought pythagoras learnt mathematics from Thales whom was perceived as a phonician thaught by the persians. He also reached the acme of perfection in arithmetic and music and the other mathematical sciences taught by the Babylonians as a prisoner there where the egyptians learnt it from the babylonians as well.

Democracy and the university are purely Greek inventions.

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:17 am

Patience wrote:Oh... NOW it all makes sense.

You're a nutcase. Thanks for clarifying.
If i'm a nutcase then so are you.

By the way what flavor would I be. Almond of course!

And you? Black Walnut!

Are you saying that just because you misinterpretated my Sig, I am a nutcase! or are you saying my explanation of why "you are white, ...of the Darkness!" My theory is supported by most scientists. Not nuts at all.

I may use an avatar of someone else once in a while, but I don't use the same one for over a year. Or pretend that I am a black person. Someone could say that you are a "Jim Crow" and your intentions bigoted!

So what can you explain your avatar?

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Post by Simply Joel » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:41 am

Nipsy Russell? Jim Crow?

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Post by samtzu » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:55 am

I have found that people who are ensconsed in their own ignorance have built huge battlements of their own misconceptions. A frontal attack is seldom successful.

But, as the Marx Brothers so amply prove in all their movies, laughter will often deflate the indeflatable...

so... AIIZ... about this Sanity Clause... :twisted:
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Post by Ranger Genius » Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:14 pm

Are you saying that just because you misinterpretated my Sig, I am a nutcase
I think he meant that you're a nutcase because you believe literally in fairy tales. I'd have to say that I concur. Saying things in a way that makes them sound "all sciency" does not lend them--or you--any credibility. As a general rule.
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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:58 pm

Ranger Genius wrote:
I think he meant that you're a nutcase because you believe literally in fairy tales. I'd have to say that I concur. Saying things in a way that makes them sound "all sciency" does not lend them--or you--any credibility. As a general rule.
What exactly are you talking about? Explain in a finer detail please.

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Post by chickenfish » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:36 pm

Beware the serpent men who rule from beneath the earth
Oh where oh where is the mother ship when you need her?
chickenfish chickenfish you are not a pelican
chickenfish chickenfish your love is like a flea
chickenfish chickenfish your fins are so delicate
chickenfish chickenfish chicken of the sea

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