gross ebay post

[knowmad]

ticket sale crapola fer sure.
The orgs prefrens for in-ticket is most likely to blame. causing a server to crash is pretty trivial when you are slightly skilled in system admin. and if you are turning tickets at 100% profit it is how you fund your burn. in short it is an insiderish job. basically fuck your fellow burner as dnightshade points out. I'm sure some Org apologist will decry this but thats the same asshat that made the mess to begin with.
Solution. Buy tickets every other year smuggle your self in and gift the ticket to the moochers out front.

Personally, I've been feeling the reason that tickets were sold out so fast are due to the possibility of third party involvement in buying the tickets. It seems a bit ridiculous when you look at the previous year sales.

Plus I've seen stuff like this a few times on e-bay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Tickets-Burning-M ... 500wt_1156

Of course theres this one that was already mentioned once:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Burningman-2011-Buc ... 4aa8157973

I'm sure that's not where it ends either.

Something should be done about this.

[sacramentogames]

ticket sale crapola fer sure.
The orgs prefrens for in-ticket is most likely to blame. causing a server to crash is pretty trivial when you are slightly skilled in system admin. and if you are turning tickets at 100% profit it is how you fund your burn. in short it is an insiderish job. basically fuck your fellow burner as dnightshade points out. I'm sure some Org apologist will decry this but thats the same asshat that made the mess to begin with.
Solution. Buy tickets every other year smuggle your self in and gift the ticket to the moochers out front.

Personally, I've been feeling the reason that tickets were sold out so fast are due to the possibility of third party involvement in buying the tickets. It seems a bit ridiculous when you look at the previous year sales.

Plus I've seen stuff like this a few times on e-bay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Tickets-Burning-M ... 500wt_1156

Of course theres this one that was already mentioned once:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Burningman-2011-Buc ... 4aa8157973

I'm sure that's not where it ends either.

Something should be done about this.

Yes, you are right, I bought ALL the tickets. Pffft.

Smuggle yourself in? PLEASE tell me your kidding.

As for the tickets selling fast, I wonder if the mention on South Park had anything to do with it. There was a few minute spoof on there and it glorified the BM event. Eric Cartman (Coon and Friends) crash the greatest party on earth.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/3 ... urning-man

[knowmad]

Scat games go soak your head. my post wasn't about you, or to you. this thread is about some asshats commercial exploitation of BRC.

[sacramentogames]

Scat games go soak your head. my post wasn't about you, or to you. this thread is about some asshats commercial exploitation of BRC.

Earth to knowmad come in knowmad...........Houston I think we have a problem.

Did you forget how this thread got started?

[oneeyeddick]

good god shoot me now

[sarahbellum911]

Wow..I made it to the end...and in the end...I'm just confused. So let me try to figure it out....

some guy who says he's been to the playa a few times and has been some sort of planner for 15 years throws together a "you don't have to do shit but pay me and decorate your bike " package. He promises a MV (ps it's mutant not Morphed), a "TOUR" guide, an illegally loud sound system and perhaps...wait for it...wait for it....a trampoline. In return, he and 6 of his "workers" have all their needs paid for as well.

In response: People announce their beliefs that this is wrong or this might be okay.

And now is where I get confused...am I to understand that he has already dropped over 10k on tickets for the greatest party on earth and he is seeking help to put together? (30 tic @320+fee) He has even extended the offer to hire someone from the board.

If he is already this deep in the hole, perhaps this was not a well thought out business plan on many fronts. If the person offering you the Package of a Lifetime can't even do their homework before sticking their hand out and making promises then there is a bigger issue here than just the commerce.

Please help me understand why in the world the poster of this ad has not been asked to fully explain his failure to present a complete, accurate and valid business plan while claiming he knows what he's doing but just simply seeking some feedback. He is a Troll of some kind...it may not be the typical stir the shit troll, but he is trolling for you help to put 95k into his bank account. Make sure you feel like you are getting your share before helping him sell the experience we all help build.

*goes back to her popcorn and waits for the flames to continue* The warmth is nice this time of year.

[graidawg]

[quote="erbal"][quote="unjonharley"] Some one died and left you spokes person for ?????[/quote]

Actually, they didn't die ... I killed them with a butter knife, marinaded them in BBQ sauce & served them up to burners saying that it was unicorn meat!

Would you like to see my butter knife collection? I'm running out of unicorns ;)[/quote]

oh dear you have appeatred to have killed me i laughed so hard- dont let the wizards use my bones to creat forged tickets :(

[Dustdevil]

[quote="sarahbellum911"]Wow..I made it to the end...and in the end...I'm just confused. So let me try to figure it out....


And now is where I get confused...am I to understand that he has already dropped over 10k on tickets for the greatest party on earth and he is seeking help to put together? (30 tic @320+fee) He has even extended the offer to hire someone from the board.

I don't believe he has stated or implied that he has purchased 30 tickets. My guess would be that he purchased a few tickets for his 10 person package and his crew. Just a guess mind you. Those tickets can easily be resold if he does not find a high roller.

If he is already this deep in the hole, perhaps this was not a well thought out business plan on many fronts.

This is based on your assumption of what he may have done.

Please help me understand why in the world the poster of this ad has not been asked to fully explain his failure to present a complete, accurate and valid business plan while claiming he knows what he's doing but just simply seeking some feedback. He is a Troll of some kind...it may not be the typical stir the shit troll, but he is trolling for you help to put 95k into his bank account. Make sure you feel like you are getting your share before helping him sell the experience we all help build.

I will agree he is trolling for help from this forum. I certainly don't think he is looking for customers here. Therefore, why should he spell out the details to those who are not potential clients.
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Playing the Devils' Advocate

[Sic Pup]

Either he's totally delusional or sooner or later a tunnel under the fence is going to work it's way into the thread.

[delle]

I haven’t visited this thread since it was under a page long, and truthfully haven’t read every page through before posting this… but I wanted to share a story that may (or may not) be pertinent to the discussion.

I work as a concierge in a resort in Quebec. Around four years ago we were the venue for a large conference which brought in some of the world’s best minds in a certain field.

One of the keynote speakers was a day late.

When the expected speaker and his wife arrived, they practically floated into the building – the qualities of their energies almost impossible to describe, except maybe to say “they were radiating blissâ€

[AntiM]

It is quite true that I've had virgins tent camp with us, and they returned from Burning Man completely untouched by the event.

Love the story, Delle, thanks for sharing.

[sacramentogames]

Wow..I made it to the end...and in the end...I'm just confused. So let me try to figure it out....

some guy who says he's been to the playa a few times and has been some sort of planner for 15 years throws together a "you don't have to do shit but pay me and decorate your bike " package. He promises a MV (ps it's mutant not Morphed), a "TOUR" guide, an illegally loud sound system and perhaps...wait for it...wait for it....a trampoline. In return, he and 6 of his "workers" have all their needs paid for as well.

In response: People announce their beliefs that this is wrong or this might be okay.

And now is where I get confused...am I to understand that he has already dropped over 10k on tickets for the greatest party on earth and he is seeking help to put together? (30 tic @320+fee) He has even extended the offer to hire someone from the board.

If he is already this deep in the hole, perhaps this was not a well thought out business plan on many fronts. If the person offering you the Package of a Lifetime can't even do their homework before sticking their hand out and making promises then there is a bigger issue here than just the commerce.

Please help me understand why in the world the poster of this ad has not been asked to fully explain his failure to present a complete, accurate and valid business plan while claiming he knows what he's doing but just simply seeking some feedback. He is a Troll of some kind...it may not be the typical stir the shit troll, but he is trolling for you help to put 95k into his bank account. Make sure you feel like you are getting your share before helping him sell the experience we all help build.

*goes back to her popcorn and waits for the flames to continue* The warmth is nice this time of year.

I have made the change from morphed to mutated for you.

I would like to point out the fact the sound system is not illegal. I will not provide more than 300 watts.

As for pocketing $95,000, do you really think my grandparents gave me this as a graduation gift and now I'm selling it on Ebay to pocket all the cash? *chuckle*

I still thank you for taking the time to write your comments and feelings.

[sacramentogames]

Wow..I made it to the end...and in the end...I'm just confused. So let me try to figure it out....

some guy who says he's been to the playa a few times and has been some sort of planner for 15 years throws together a "you don't have to do shit but pay me and decorate your bike " package. He promises a MV (ps it's mutant not Morphed), a "TOUR" guide, an illegally loud sound system and perhaps...wait for it...wait for it....a trampoline. In return, he and 6 of his "workers" have all their needs paid for as well.

In response: People announce their beliefs that this is wrong or this might be okay.

And now is where I get confused...am I to understand that he has already dropped over 10k on tickets for the greatest party on earth and he is seeking help to put together? (30 tic @320+fee) He has even extended the offer to hire someone from the board.

If he is already this deep in the hole, perhaps this was not a well thought out business plan on many fronts. If the person offering you the Package of a Lifetime can't even do their homework before sticking their hand out and making promises then there is a bigger issue here than just the commerce.

Please help me understand why in the world the poster of this ad has not been asked to fully explain his failure to present a complete, accurate and valid business plan while claiming he knows what he's doing but just simply seeking some feedback. He is a Troll of some kind...it may not be the typical stir the shit troll, but he is trolling for you help to put 95k into his bank account. Make sure you feel like you are getting your share before helping him sell the experience we all help build.

*goes back to her popcorn and waits for the flames to continue* The warmth is nice this time of year.

I have made the change from morphed to mutated for you.

I would like to point out the fact the sound system is not illegal. I will not provide more than 300 watts.

As for pocketing $95,000, do you really think my grandparents gave me this as a graduation gift and now I'm selling it on Ebay to pocket all the cash? *chuckle*

I still thank you for taking the time to write your comments and feelings.

By the way, that trampoline is not just some trampoline from toys r us. That is a euro bungee trampoline. Its about $30,000 with all the accessories. Rest assured, this Euro Trampoline would be major fun at BM for everyone to enjoy.

Lastly, I am not selling anything on this site. I am not marketing here. I am merely giving you a chance to voice your concerns

[Sic Pup]

I am merely giving you a chance to voice your concerns trolling for info so I can do the bare minimum in order to appease the masses, quell riots and still exploit the shit out of all your freely given efforts to line my pockets.

Fixt.

For the record, I for one find the tone of civility in your posts appalling.

[Sic Pup]

By the way, that trampoline is not just some trampoline from toys r us. That is a euro bungee trampoline. Its about $30,000 with all the accessories. Rest assured, this Euro Trampoline would be major fun at BM for everyone to enjoy.

Oh, in that case disregard my prior post.

[ibdave]

By the way, that trampoline is not just some trampoline from toys r us. That is a euro bungee trampoline. Its about $30,000 with all the accessories. Rest assured, this Euro Trampoline would be major fun at BM for everyone to enjoy.

Oh, in that case disregard my prior post.

[sacramentogames]

I am merely giving you a chance to voice your concerns trolling for info so I can do the bare minimum in order to appease the masses, quell riots and still exploit the shit out of all your freely given efforts to line my pockets.

Fixt.

For the record, I for one find the tone of civility in your posts appalling.

I think everyone who does not succumb to your word twisting and mud slinging in your eyes is an appalling troll. I am above that and I will not join in that kind of behavior.

[Lord Of Ruin]

Two or three years ago 130 theme camps did not get placement. This created a hardship for those who spent a lot of time and money planning those camps, their setup and transportation to the Event. You are correct. If five RV's request Theme Camp Placement without a serious degree of interactivity, they most likely would be denied. It is a really large desert and there is plenty of space for non Theme Camp participants in RVs if they don't mind being farther back. Actually, some find the peaceful atmosphere of the outer roads to be quite nice, while others want the 24/7 activity of the Esplanade. It is a stretch to say that a for-profit camp would displace anyone. It is a really large desert. Also, the camp itself is not making a profit. The profit, if this comes to fruition, would be made by the person supplying the infrastructure of the camp. At least in my view, the camp is the people who make up the camp and how they interact with those around them.

Jesus Christopher

I hate when people say this crap. Yes, those camps did not get placed. That does not mean that their entire BM experience was ruined. IT means they didn't get what they wanted.

They should feel free to drive on out to 4:30 and Gibraltar and set up your theme camp to your heart's content on Monday at 1:00 am! Heck, if your theme camp is awesome, it'll become the hot playa destination of the year.

LoR

[sacramentogames]

Two or three years ago 130 theme camps did not get placement. This created a hardship for those who spent a lot of time and money planning those camps, their setup and transportation to the Event. You are correct. If five RV's request Theme Camp Placement without a serious degree of interactivity, they most likely would be denied. It is a really large desert and there is plenty of space for non Theme Camp participants in RVs if they don't mind being farther back. Actually, some find the peaceful atmosphere of the outer roads to be quite nice, while others want the 24/7 activity of the Esplanade. It is a stretch to say that a for-profit camp would displace anyone. It is a really large desert. Also, the camp itself is not making a profit. The profit, if this comes to fruition, would be made by the person supplying the infrastructure of the camp. At least in my view, the camp is the people who make up the camp and how they interact with those around them.

Jesus Christopher

I hate when people say this crap. Yes, those camps did not get placed. That does not mean that their entire BM experience was ruined. IT means they didn't get what they wanted.

They should feel free to drive on out to 4:30 and Gibraltar and set up your theme camp to your heart's content on Monday at 1:00 am! Heck, if your theme camp is awesome, it'll become the hot playa destination of the year.

LoR

I have absolutely have no desire to have frontage property. I prefer to be 7-8 rows back at about 7-9 o'clock.

As for the theme camp, I trust that the BM Staff will make the best decision to place us. Even if they placed us in the worst possible spot, I think the euro trampoline will be a huge draw.

Even with all the mud that has been slung, I still welcome each and every one of you to our camp. Hopefully we can all share a nice cold beer and everyone can enjoy the burn your own way.

[CapSmashy]

Jesus Christopher

I hate when people say this crap. Yes, those camps did not get placed. That does not mean that their entire BM experience was ruined. IT means they didn't get what they wanted.

They should feel free to drive on out to 4:30 and Gibraltar and set up your theme camp to your heart's content on Monday at 1:00 am! Heck, if your theme camp is awesome, it'll become the hot playa destination of the year.

LoR

Not too mention, the very real possibility that while they were planning a ginormous spectacle of mind blowing interactivity, none of that was conveyed on their theme camp application and it was rejected.

[CapSmashy]

I have absolutely have no desire to have frontage property. I prefer to be 7-8 rows back at about 7-9 o'clock.

As for the theme camp, I trust that the BM Staff will make the best decision to place us. Even if they placed us in the worst possible spot, I think the euro trampoline will be a huge draw.

Even with all the mud that has been slung, I still welcome each and every one of you to our camp. Hopefully we can all share a nice cold beer and everyone can enjoy the burn your own way.

I dunno...

Given what you are planning, I would think getting up on C street would be a better placement option. Your campers will more than likely be interested in the spectacle of the Esplanade and open playa stuff.

This is not to denigrate the efforts made on the back streets though. Some of my best experiences have come crawling through the inner city.

I will also say that you are going to want something more than just trampoline camp for your theme camp application. You are already planning a sound system, DJ's are a dime a dozen and you can always find some looking to do their thing and bill yourself as a the Techno Tramp Camp.

You are an event planner so you should know how to right a good event plan. Keep that in mind when doing your theme camp application.

[knowmad]

Scat games go soak your head. my post wasn't about you, or to you. this thread is about some asshats commercial exploitation of BRC.

Earth to knowmad come in knowmad...........Houston I think we have a problem.

Did you forget how this thread got started?

As I said this tread was started to talk abut the asshat that sells our culture. then you showed up.

oh and before I forget....






















The Idea is a lose, lose.

[oneeyeddick]

If you plan on serving gravy in any of those meals you are preparing for the group, don't forget to bring a wisk.

[CapSmashy]

If you plan on serving gravy in any of those meals you are preparing for the group, don't forget to bring a wisk.

A large whisk. And a suitable stock pot.

[sacramentogames]

knowmad, I am very confused. What "asshat" are you talking about? Are you talking about the Ebay add?

[Ugly Dougly]

Do asses wear hats?

[Ugly Dougly]

OK, yeah they do.

[C187]

Hey Sacramentogames, I'm just wondering, but what tier are those tickets?

[Dustdevil]

I already asked that. He stated they were at the highest price tier.

But it is still a valid question.....

[thisisthatwhichis]

Wow, 9 pages and counting.... SacGames, you're almost a Rock Star!


I dunno, I think there is opportunity here........

If ya get 10 "rich" people at BurningMan, and only 1 or 2 "Get It"..... then maybe BM has a some major funding for Waffles or Oil Derricks next year......


SacGames, I think your only big mistake, was a perception of commodification. If you give all of your "profits" to art projects next year, the major hollering would stop. Since you control what "profits" are with your project, much as the Hat does, you shouldn't have much outcry......