Home distilling in California...Legal?

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Home distilling in California...Legal?

Postby TomServo » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:05 pm

Im not planning on blinding burners with shitty vodka...Ill blind myself before anyone else...but anyone know the laws? Been all over the internet and cant get a definative answer..other than New York requires a license. Ive brewed beer before with good results, and would like to try vodka for a change. If it requires a license, so be it! Ill name it after BRC. Anyone in the distilling trade?...hiring?
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Postby sputnik » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:24 pm

I would love to do this, but it's still illegal

http://wiki.homedistiller.org/Legality#United_States
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Postby Major Krash » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:35 pm

...he never said he was going to do it at his house, or that he could not spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make this hootch...it can be done, it is just not practical....

now Bath Salts....

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Postby TomServo » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:40 pm

Bastards! I know their are risks in distilling spirits, but their are also risks in making pickles! WTF?
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Postby sputnik » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:47 pm

Of course this has very little to do with safety anymore and more to do with preserving cash flow into the US treasury.
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Postby Major Krash » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:56 pm

always been about the taxes, since right after we "threw the British out"...look up "Whiskey Rebellion"...

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Postby TomServo » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:59 pm

I understand the tax thing....used to haul beer out of Budweiser. Couldnt be shipped until the tax was paid....are signs on the gates stating that.
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Postby LeChatNoir » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:32 pm

What about making your own grain alcohol fuel?
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Postby gyre » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:09 pm

There has been talk of allowing personal corn whiskey production here.
I found mention of a craft distillery license in washington for $100.

There is definitely real corn whiskey around and occasionally huge stills are found around here.
I can't find provision for legal production, just some unusual work around distillation approaches.

Some states have no rules unless you are selling.
Federal rules are the bigger problem.


http://www.homedistiller.org/
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... iskey.html
http://www.distilling.net/distilling.html
http://www.thickos.co.uk/
http://www.whiskeywise.com/Make-Whiskey-at-home.html
http://www.coppermoonshinestills.com/
http://www.ellenjaye.com/wh_index.htm
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Whisky-Still/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 658AAPvPr3

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Postby gyre » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:10 pm

LeChatNoir wrote:What about making your own grain alcohol fuel?

I found some provision for that.

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Postby LeChatNoir » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:34 pm

Wow.... those stills at the coppermooonshinestills link are really beautiful.
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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:35 pm

The cat's from Tennessee, so he's likely to have an eye for these things.
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Postby gyre » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:49 pm

I love copper work.

I even found some inexpensive tabletop stills from canadia, electric I think.

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Postby LeChatNoir » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:01 pm

Just be mindful when working it to avoid breathing the fumes while annealing and wear gloves when handling it, else you can get copper toxicity poisoning, or even Wilson's Disease.

Eat eggs. The Albumin in the egg white will collect the copper and flush it from the body.
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Postby gyre » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:06 pm

Thanks

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Postby TomServo » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:15 am

So I wish I could change this thread to.. Can you help me build an illegal still?
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Postby Lassen Forge » Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:31 am

It's not illegal if you're distilling water... 8)

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Postby Colonel Monk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:21 pm

Shoot, go for it.

I'd just find somewhere in the woods to do it and do it.

We definitely don't have so much LE crashing thru the coutryside in this state looking for contraband.

It's hard enough to locate illicit crops, I doubt anyone would bother somebody wanting to make a few gallons of their own spirits.

Wouldn't be enough to affect the tax sitchy anyway.

I'd love to have one of those beautiful stills......
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Postby TomServo » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:18 pm

Colonel Monk wrote:Shoot, go for it.

I'd just find somewhere in the woods to do it and do it.

We definitely don't have so much LE crashing thru the coutryside in this state looking for contraband.

It's hard enough to locate illicit crops, I doubt anyone would bother somebody wanting to make a few gallons of their own spirits.

Wouldn't be enough to affect the tax sitchy anyway.

I'd love to have one of those beautiful stills......


My next door neighbor is DEA...but he didnt seem to notice the pot plants my upstairs neighbors were growing.
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Postby Colonel Monk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:53 pm

DEA? zoiks....

Well I can assume he likes where he lives - so the phrase comes to mind "don't shit where you eat my friend"...

I'm sure he'd win the war but I can see why he doesn't give a shit. Furthermore, when I get home the last thing I want to do is anything remotely like what I do at work.

Know anyone with some remote property? Maybe you could trade em some licker for a place to make it.

I'd rather make mooshine in the hills anyway, woodn't you?

I sure would like to give it a try someday.
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well I'll be dipped in shit....

Postby Colonel Monk » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:56 pm

This doesn't look too tough, and it's scalable, and I guess you could do this in your kitchen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mPCiLvrp_0

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Postby Lassen Forge » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:10 pm

you live in California - what did you *expect* him to do?

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Postby LostinReno » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:14 pm

Just don't clean your guns in the same room! :shock: :lol:

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Postby TomServo » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:34 pm

Thanks Col.Monk! Im gonna build a still.

I wouldnt be selling it, so fuck em and their taxes.

No...I wont clean my guns in the same room.
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Postby gyre » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:27 am

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Postby skibear » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:56 am

Our house in Maryland, built in 1939, had an origional owner
with a still in the basement. One day while inebriated he crawled
next door along a wall and fell off breaking his arm.

I haven't continued this although I'd like to make home brewed beer.
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Postby TomServo » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:36 pm

skibear wrote:Our house in Maryland, built in 1939, had an origional owner
with a still in the basement. One day while inebriated he crawled
next door along a wall and fell off breaking his arm.

I haven't continued this although I'd like to make home brewed beer.


I did beer a couple times...both pale ales. Didn't realize, till I started,but its legal to brew and consume your own beer at 18..up to a certain amount. Im wayyyyy over 18..just thought that was interesting. I wanna try vodka or rum.
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Postby AntiM » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:43 pm

TomServo wrote:So I wish I could change this thread to.. Can you help me build an illegal still?


Ah, but then you'd be violating the TOS and we'd have to get all pissy over it.
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Postby TomServo » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:46 pm

AntiM wrote:
TomServo wrote:So I wish I could change this thread to.. Can you help me build an illegal still?


Ah, but then you'd be violating the TOS and we'd have to get all pissy over it.


I changed my mind
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Postby gyre » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:21 pm

I can't believe this law!

Having a still seems to be like having indoor gardening lights.
Legal until you use them a certain way.
I grow tomatoes with mine.

Did the hidden compartment thread get pulled?
I've been meaning to start one anyway.
Every car and home should have hidden compartments or rooms.
Cars especially need storage for cash, papers, cameras, laptops, weapons.
It has actually been more common than not through history, to use concealment for security.
Thinking back, I have never had anything concealed, stolen.
We have been living in a rare secure period, and it's long gone in most places.
They were also common during the depression, for items not replaceable.

We now have insurance that won't pay off and ram raid burglars that expect an alarm.
Concealment is the best defense, even if it can only be used for the most valuable items.

It is an interesting challenge too, to design successful locations.

I find that the most successful hiding place, is a place that isn't normally a place.


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