israel, judaism, jews and zionism

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:23 am

i wish it were that easy Anti-M

if it was possible for me to ignore him AND check these boards at the same time i would.

the plonk feature is a moot point with my set-up...

and i have a Kitty Genovese issue...people who do nothing, who look away, even though they know they should either A...Get Involved or B. Bear Witness.
there is a special place in Newark for those that abstain.

he calls this bait?

can't sit still wrote:
Here's a very interesting article. Leading investigators and historians, both jewish and gentile have shown that the so-called holocaust,as described, never happened. There was plenty of death to be sure. Much of it was ascribed to natural causes. This is the claim made of the German high command. "capture of literally tons of German documents after the war, no one can point to documentary evidence of a wartime extermination order, plan or program."
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/denial.shtml
All very interesting historical research.

please...

nice try, it's Hate...plain and simple, and i for one will not shirk from my responsibilities to you silly monkeys by ignoring, and therefore, condoning such behaviour.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:29 am

Seems some in Beirut blame Hezbollah for dragging them into war with Israel.

BEIRUT â€“ Tens of thousands of supporters of Lebanon's pro-Western opposition thronged downtown Beirut on Sunday, demanding that the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah give up its weapons.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110313/ap_ ... ml_lebanon

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:36 am

My Father's Two Friends both were at Sobibor.

I called them Uncle teddy, and Uncle Morris.

they were hungarian jews who lost their entire families.

they came here after the war, together, age 14 and 15.

morris had half of his foot cut off by a german guard with a hatchet because he had developed gangrene.

he told me the guard saved his life.

how dare you even Obliquely say that the holocaust never occurred.

have you no sense of decency, you fucking prick.

H.G.Crosby · Post by **H.G.Crosby** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:40 am

now heres the kicker.

Teddy was a ZonderKammando.

you cannot imagine...i cannot imagine...it is for them that i tell you,

GO FUCK YOURSELF, CSS.

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:41 am

Simon of the Playa wrote: how dare you even Obliquely say that the holocaust never occurred.

have you no sense of decency, you fucking prick.

i have to go with simon on this one.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:43 am

Holocaust denial is vile. My stories are a bit more distant from the horrors than Simon's, but then my grandfather was a metallurgist--which meant that the States were happy to have his skills--and German--which meant that he had a better chance to get out before the killing machine got going.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:50 am

and with god as my witness, i am not even jewish.

i am a nothing...my father is a Jew, Non-practicing, my Mother is Catholic.

this has to do with truth, and the cries of history that must be heard.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:40 am

No one is denying that lots of jews were murdered in WW II. People go to jail for the contention that the number is exaggerated.
"The figures posted at Auschwitz have been revised down drastically by jewish organizations over the years from the famous 6 million figure to about 3 million."
The link that I posted talked about jewish scholars and jewish historians coming out with lower numbers.
"There were only 5.5 million jewish people in ALL of Europe during the war years of WWII" No one of repute is denying that the murders occurred.
Why should searching for historical accuracy be a crime?
The Red Cross had offices at all the internment camps. They disagree. Encyclopedia Brittanica disagrees. Should those sources be ignored?
Do we shed a tear for all the Gypsies who were murdered? Do we immortalize the 10 million christians who died? What about Pol Pot and Idi Amin? We put all the other genocides in the past.
Over a million germans were starved to death after the war. That was a war crime. German industrial production peaked right at the end of the war. The Allied offensive concentrated on carper-bombing the population centers and preserving the industrial capacity,,, which was all hauled away after the war. Fire-bombing Dresden was equivalent to nuking Nagasaki. Is it no longer a war-crime if it happened to the loser?

WW II was a tribal spat because the Anglo-Saxons were losing market share to the hyper-productive Germans. The Anglo-Saxon empire was falling apart.
The West is now losing market share to the Chinese. The American empire is falling apart. An important Chinese general says that he expects a war with America. What will China do if we block them from Mid-East oil. Japan declared war when we blocked them from oil.
I write about the important movements of history.
The current march towards WW III is as important as it gets.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:43 am

go ahead jerk-off....make my day.

Roberto Dobbisano · Post by **Roberto Dobbisano** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:45 am

If i were you i would gtfo now...

Hes pissed.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:46 am

you bet your sweet ass i am....no more mr. nice guy...

you made your bed fucknut.

H.G.Crosby · Post by **H.G.Crosby** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:49 am

watch out for the pretty ones my friend...they'll be watching you.

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H.G.Crosby · Post by **H.G.Crosby** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:52 am

poke the monster, and you will get eaten motherfucker....

just remember, you were warned.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:58 am

I dont give a rats ass anymore, i can never visit these boards again and it wont mean shit to me, but you will get your just desserts my fine soon to be tar and feathered friend...

Fuck you, fuck your family, fuck your pets, we will not stop until we have satisfaction that you have choked on your own shit.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:03 am

Well, the Encyclopedia Brittanica

Oh crud, there's a reason I don't read this thread...

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:41 pm

can't sit still wrote:No one is denying that lots of jews were murdered in WW II. People go to jail for the contention that the number is exaggerated.
"The figures posted at Auschwitz have been revised down drastically by jewish organizations over the years from the famous 6 million figure to about 3 million."
The link that I posted talked about jewish scholars and jewish historians coming out with lower numbers.
"There were only 5.5 million jewish people in ALL of Europe during the war years of WWII" No one of repute is denying that the murders occurred.
Why should searching for historical accuracy be a crime?
The Red Cross had offices at all the internment camps. They disagree. Encyclopedia Brittanica disagrees. Should those sources be ignored?
Do we shed a tear for all the Gypsies who were murdered? Do we immortalize the 10 million christians who died? What about Pol Pot and Idi Amin? We put all the other genocides in the past.
Over a million germans were starved to death after the war. That was a war crime. German industrial production peaked right at the end of the war. The Allied offensive concentrated on carper-bombing the population centers and preserving the industrial capacity,,, which was all hauled away after the war. Fire-bombing Dresden was equivalent to nuking Nagasaki. Is it no longer a war-crime if it happened to the loser?

WW II was a tribal spat because the Anglo-Saxons were losing market share to the hyper-productive Germans. The Anglo-Saxon empire was falling apart.
The West is now losing market share to the Chinese. The American empire is falling apart. An important Chinese general says that he expects a war with America. What will China do if we block them from Mid-East oil. Japan declared war when we blocked them from oil.
I write about the important movements of history.
The current march towards WW III is as important as it gets.

does the figure matter that much? 3 or 6 million its still an horrendous number of people murdered. Yes people care about every genocide, be it jews gypsies,catholics, serbs, russians or native americans. I am inly recently finiding out about the british attempts to slaughter the scottish. The clearances where never mentioned in my british school, and that i think os wrong.

What is fucking appalling is your attempt to portray facts and figures without sounding like the fucking rascist dick you are.
why pick on israel? huh why not mention palestine or india or zimbawe or the taliban in afghanistan? or any number of other racially or theologically motivated conflicts?
you are picking your arguement because for some reason it's borderline acceptable to say its the jews in israel causing all our problems in the good old us of a.
The same as you choose to lambast your president in other threads.

You have allowed the media and the sites you look at to make you think in the way they want you too.

try thinking of a positve thing to rant about, like how burning man has changed your life, or attempts of burners to improve the lives of others. or the individual isrealies and palestinians that choose to live without fighting. Do you think for one instant one person that reads this or any of your other hate filled threads has had there opinion changed in any way. Except possibly to realise that if they listen for one instant longer to you and your ilk that there is an acceptable form of genocide and thats to collect every single hate monger such as yourself and put them on an island in the middle of the ocean and leave them there until they drown in there collective bile?

if you cannot get your head round the concept of radical inclusiveness, perhaps and i suggest this as a burgin, fuck off to some neo nazi hate rally and leave the rest of us to try and improve lives by positive action.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:53 pm

Ms, Crypto. Millions died in Germany. The evidence is so clouded that, it is impossible to say the number. Here's a report of an Australian investigation. They say that they found no mass graves. Everybody knows that hundreds of thousands died of typhus and other diseases. Hundreds of thousands died in executions. The idea of no mass graves is irreconcilable with the facts.
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2006/03/15/t ... stigation/
I wasn't there. My mother was there with the Sixth Army,,, if I recall correctly. She saw the dead and dying.

One of the important icons in the Catholic religion is the Shroud of Turin. Reportedly, Jesus's body was wrapped in this shroud after he died. When investigators asked to do radio-carbon dating of the shroud, the Pope acquiesced. The shroud was proved to be far too recent. I have no particular interest in catholic icons. There is no connection in the question of magnitude.
Should religious dogma be examined by the scientific method or should it be immune?
Scholars have written and proved that much of the wrath of the Crusades was actually directed at the jews. Hopefully, man can avoid pogroms by keeping previous pogroms in the public knowledge.
Simon Weisenthal worked diligently on this.

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:59 pm

they burnt the bodies in the massive crematoriums - next attempt to sound less like a rascist dick please?

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:16 pm

dont bother Graidawg...

there's an old saying....

Looks like shit, smells like shit, tastes like shit, good thing we didn't step in it.

CSS and his opinions are SHIT....

i can smell him everytime he opens his goddamn motherfucking mouth.

Karma is a bitch though, I know, i trained her...she's tall, built for speed, and quite frankly, a knock-out.

and she's coming for you CSS...

graidawg · Post by **graidawg** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:23 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:dont bother Graidawg...

there's an old saying....

Looks like shit, smells like shit, tastes like shit, good thing we didn't step in it.

CSS and his opinions are SHIT....

i can smell him everytime he opens his goddamn motherfucking mouth.

Karma is a bitch though, I know, i trained her...she's tall, built for speed, and quite frankly, a knock-out.

and she's coming for you CSS...

yep i have to agree with that old saying simon.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:38 pm

i'm going to let the girls handle it, i've got other gefilte fish to fry.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:20 pm

"he calls this bait?"
You took it, didn't you? Until you develop mental discipline, it will be easy to yank your chain.

Pavlov would be proud of you.
The thread originally concentrated on the ethnic cleansing in palestine. These killings are justified from a practical point of view. They aren't justifiable from a moral point of view. Ben Gurion said, " the arabs in Palestine did not kill one single jew in Europe during the war. Why should they be made to suffer for the crimes of europeans? "
The germans crowded the jews into ghettos and starved them to death. That tactic works quite well for the israelis too.
There were positive posts about the beneficial contributions of the jews over the decades and centuries. That's fine. The jews have contributed greatly to mankind's accomplishments. If the good should be lauded, shouldn't the evil be condemned?

No one has posted any justification for the ongoing killing of palestinians. It's far too slippery a slope. 5 israelis were killed as they slept. Bibi has called for international condemnation of the palestinians. The israelis kill many thousands yearly. If the U.N. tries to sanction them for this, they claim that everybody is picking on them. There is no moral justification for the blockade, the walls and the terror.
Your counter argument is to show 2 vids of israeli women. Do you actually BELIEVE that you have refuted anything,,, that you have demonstrated intelligence?

Once that historians and scholars have made a thorough investigation of the mass killings in Europe, the question can be laid to rest. If the number should be less than 6 million, that doesn't lessen the crime. Why argue about it?
You couldn't refute your way out of a paper bag.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:32 pm

AS YOU WISH.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:26 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:AS YOU WISH.

That's excellent news ! I only have one wish. A return to congeniality on the E-Playa. A congenial atmosphere here is very important to the community at large. The E-Playa is far more important than any pissing contest. I don't want any parting shots or any apologies or anything. Just congeniality. The E-Playa community deserves it.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:36 am

go fuck yourself, Nigga.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:15 pm

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can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:18 pm

Apparently, it's difficult to fight hatred and intolerance when one is a genocidal pariah.
"It is astonishing to see these figures and a damning indictment on efforts to fight hatred and intolerance in Europe," he said.
http://www.ejpress.org/article/49705
It seems that the Europeans are getting tired of all the murder.

A Deepening Rift Between Germany and Israel
By JUDY DEMPSEY

BERLIN â€” On Feb. 18, Germany did something unthinkable. It voted in favor of a U.N. Security Council resolution calling the Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territory illegal and demanding the immediate halt of all settlement activity.

The resolution did not pass â€” the United States, the only one of the Security Councilâ€™s 15 members to vote against it, vetoed it. That did not stop the German vote from opening a serious rift between Germany and Israel.

Ruprecht Polenz, a conservative lawmaker and chairman of the German Parliamentâ€™s Foreign Affairs Committee, said â€œthe vote was highly unusualâ€

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:27 pm

Watching scheise videos again, huh...

Stupid fuck.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:30 pm

This is very interesting. There seems to be a genuine push for a 2 state settlement. It is not coming from Netanyhu,,, of course. It is coming from influential israelis;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ap ... e-solution

This will start a battle royale with the settlers.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:34 pm

Israel seem to have got their tit caught in a wringer this time. "â€œWe are facing a diplomatic-political tsunami that the majority of the public is unaware of and that will peak in September,â€

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