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- Ugly Dougly
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Only because this is absurd
'Gay caveman' theory gets a rocky reception
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42480811/ns ... e-science/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42480811/ns ... e-science/
Archaeologists in Prague say they've uncovered a Stone-Age man buried in a position usually reserved for women — but media claims of a "gay caveman" may be exaggerated, according to some researchers.
The skeleton, which dates back to about 2,500 to 2,800 B.C., was found in the outskirts of Prague. The culture the man belonged to (known as the Corded Ware culture for their pottery decorated with the impressions of twisted cord) was very finicky about grave rituals, reported Iranian news network Press TV, which visited the excavation site. According to the Czech news website Ceskapozice.cz, Corded Ware males were usually buried on their right sides with their heads facing east. This man, however, was buried on his left with his head facing west — a traditionally female position.
"We found one very specific grave of a man lying in the position of a woman, without gender specific grave goods, neither jewelry or weapons," lead archaeologist Kamila Remisova Vesinova of the Czech Archaeological Society told Press TV.
Vesinova and her colleagues told reporters that the man may have belonged to a "third gender." This designation is for people who may be viewed as neither male nor female or some combination of both. In some cases, third-gender individuals are thought to be able to switch between male and female depending on circumstance. Modern examples include the Hijras of India and the Fa'afafine of Polynesia.
The skeleton has been trumpeted in the media as belonging to a "homosexual caveman," but some archaeologists are skeptical. For one thing, the complexity of the third-gender concept makes calling the skeleton "gay" an oversimplification, wrote Kristina Killgrove, an anthropologist in Chapel Hill, N.C., in her blog, Bone Girl.
"If this burial represents a transgendered individual (as well it could), that doesn't necessarily mean the person had a 'different sexual orientation ' and certainly doesn't mean that he would have considered himself (or that his culture would have considered him) 'homosexual,'" Killgrove wrote.
(Transgender is defined as when gender identity doesn't match physical or genetic sex. Third gender is a broader term that covers a wide range of gender identities in a number of cultures, some of whom reject the male-female binary altogether.)
Archaeologist Monty Dobson of Drury University in Missouri agreed.
"The reality of this is going to be far more complicated than, 'This individual was gay,'" Dobson told LiveScience.
Not only is "gay" an oversimplification, "caveman" is flat-out inaccurate, said John Hawks, a paleoanthropologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.
"Corded-Ware burials are not 'caveman' in age," Hawks told LiveScience. "We're talking about pre-Bronze Age farmers."
Male or female?
Hawks said the third-gender claims are difficult to evaluate without a formal archaeological description.
"I haven't seen any evidence that really convinces me that the skeleton is male," he said. "It could be, but the photo is not convincing on that point, and I have not seen any claim of DNA testing."
It's tough to assign a sex to a skeleton with certainty, Dobson said. Archaeologists and anthropologists usually rely on bone measurements, particularly the size and shape of the pelvis. But these estimates aren't exact, Dobson said.
"There have been cases in the past where a gender was assigned and we have gone back to look and assigned the opposite gender," he said.
After confirming the gender, the second step would be to determine how many examples of gendered Corded Ware burials there are.
"Is this burial unique out of 20 burials or unique out of 20,000 burials?" Killgrove told LiveScience. "That makes a big difference in interpretation."
Both Killgrove and Dobson said that the grave's inhabitant could indeed be a third-gender individual. But there are other possibilities as well, they said. Many cultures buried shamans, or people thought to communicate with the spirit world, in unusual or gender-bending ways, Dobson said. But that burial pattern was related to the shaman's social status, not his or her sexuality.
Even if the skeleton is male, the case for a third gender requires more than a reversal of position and burial goods, Hawk said, pointing to work done by Rosemary Joyce, a University of California, Berkeley, anthropologist who specializes in sex and gender in archaeology. In a blog post about the find, Joyce wrote that third-gender burials should follow their own pattern, not just a reversal of typical male-female patterns.
The find is intriguing, Dobson said, but there are many possible interpretations still on the table.
"This might be much ado about nothing, or it might be something that tells us something very interesting," Dobson said. "There simply isn't enough data right now to make that statement definitively."
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http://www.amazon.com/Prehistory-Sex-Mi ... 188&sr=8-1
A very interesting read, Dougly.
A very interesting read, Dougly.
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Thanks, it looks interesting.theCryptofishist wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Prehistory-Sex-Mi ... 188&sr=8-1
A very interesting read, Dougly.
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apparently they're serious.
*sigh*
apparently they're serious.
*sigh*
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Former Ass't Editor & columnist, BRC Weekly
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- Ugly Dougly
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I know we've been over this previously:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8060773
But I believe the robots are not taking this lying down:
http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/Repo ... ml?ref=449

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8060773
But I believe the robots are not taking this lying down:
http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/Repo ... ml?ref=449

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How can you say that it's a swindle. The way I look at it is that they are providing a service that a certain grope of people might consider necessary. To say that is is a swindle you would also have to say their god is swindling them too. I wish I would have thought of that idea. He'll there are people making tons of money selling survival gear because of 2012 too.MyDearFriend wrote:Serious about taking your money in advance, maybe?Eric wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
apparently they're serious.
*sigh*Pretty sweet little swindle if you ask me, but I bet they never get as rich as those preachers.
Elderberry
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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Yeah, but yours isn't washed by the pure hands of the girlchildren of your followers, extra bleach...Ugly Dougly wrote:HE IS A GODSic Pup wrote:Lookie here
[youtube][/youtube]
......or not.
-damned con man.
I need to get my own cult going. I have a white shirt, too!
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
....plus I don't think anyone can pull off such a vacant and vacuus look, he could be the poster boy for Madame Tussauds.theCryptofishist wrote:Yeah, but yours isn't washed by the pure hands of the girlchildren of your followers, extra bleach...Ugly Dougly wrote:HE IS A GODSic Pup wrote:Lookie here
[youtube][/youtube]
......or not.
-damned con man.
I need to get my own cult going. I have a white shirt, too!
"Enjoy every sandwich" - W. Zevon
- Ugly Dougly
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https://bracoamerica.com/Braco_America/Welcome.html
Braco (pronounced Braht-zoh)
Introducing the healing gaze of the man they call Dougly! (pronounced "boo-bies")
Braco (pronounced Braht-zoh)
Introducing the healing gaze of the man they call Dougly! (pronounced "boo-bies")
- Ugly Dougly
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Okay, here is my new course of study.
http://www.startyourowncult.com/
Be the FIRST on your block to become one of Dougly's zombie-like lieutenants!
http://www.startyourowncult.com/
Sign up to become one the first of my committed, devoted followers NOW and avoid the rush!Being Chosen by the Almighty on high can be difficult at times. It's a rare and heavy burden to minister to your flock, and the pressing details of day-to-day micro-management of organizing your cult can be stressful--not just for you, but for all the loving followers who hang on to your every Word. Why not relieve some of that pressure with a little fun-time?
Pretending to be insane is a good way to get the laughs rolling again.
Be the FIRST on your block to become one of Dougly's zombie-like lieutenants!
Found on jelly bean (Kate on bean):

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Roy ... d=13374818
Found on eBay (bean on Kate):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kate-Jellybean-Jell ... 3a6527b011

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Roy ... d=13374818
Found on eBay (bean on Kate):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kate-Jellybean-Jell ... 3a6527b011
"Enjoy every sandwich" - W. Zevon
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When the only tool you got is a hammer, every problem looks like a hippie.
Mmmmmm I love the smell of Burning Man - Token
Getting overly dramatic about the ticket sale process is so 2012. - Maladroit
http://www.dyewithdignity.com
Mmmmmm I love the smell of Burning Man - Token
Getting overly dramatic about the ticket sale process is so 2012. - Maladroit
http://www.dyewithdignity.com
- Ugly Dougly
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Does she taste like MANGO?Sic Pup wrote:Found on jelly bean (Kate on bean):
http://abcnews.go.com/International/Roy ... d=13374818
Found on eBay (bean on Kate):
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kate-Jellybean-Jell ... 3a6527b011

- Ugly Dougly
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Nadando con los tiburones, tan bueno!tamarakay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=WK ... &vq=medium
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I've been converting "memories" (slides, photographs, etc.) to digital. The one vacation that I cannot find is one we took in Curacao back in 2002. On that trip I was photographed hand feeding some Nurse sharks. There were some great shots of me and the sharks, turtles and rays. Hopefully someday I'll run across those pictures.Ugly Dougly wrote:Nadando con los tiburones, tan bueno!tamarakay wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=WK ... &vq=medium
You know it's going to be a bad day when you jump out of bed and miss the floor.
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