WHY I’M NOT GOING BACK TO BURNING MAN

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Post by TawnyGnosis » Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:13 pm

"I'm not a drooling idiot without logic"

Correction.

Oh yeah one more thing, there is a lot of musical diversity on the playa. I listened to several great bands perform live in many many different kinds of styles. There was also jazz camp by the center cafe. I performed music myself that was most definetly not techno or dance on my my acoustic instruments.

This argument seems so silly to me everytime I hear it.
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Post by debkakes » Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:21 pm

Zane5100 wrote:
sugarlarry wrote:The only truly negative elements are the predators.
Don't forget the parasites.
You are doing a disservice to both predators AND parasites by comparing them to humans.
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Post by Zane5100 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:44 pm

debkakes wrote:
Zane5100 wrote:
sugarlarry wrote:The only truly negative elements are the predators.
Don't forget the parasites.
You are doing a disservice to both predators AND parasites by comparing them to humans.
mea culpa
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that's okay

Post by debkakes » Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:58 pm

sensitive issue for me, i belong to the Anti-Anthropomorphism League.
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Post by precipitate » Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:03 pm

> This argument seems so silly to me everytime I hear it.

Really? You clearly weren't trying to sleep anywhere near where I was
trying to sleep. All I heard was boot-in-a-dryer. Until about 8 AM. They're
lucky I was tired enough not to go find their generator.
When I went out, I was able to find other music, but the shit that's
all-pervasive and audible from afar is predominantly electronic dance
music. Fuck if I'm going to try to figure out what fans call the individual
genres.

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Post by Zane5100 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:07 pm

precipitate wrote:Fuck if I'm going to try to figure out what fans call the individual
genres.
I know what you mean--and I know a little something about music.

oops

That's the problem, right there.

My bad.
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Post by sugarlarry » Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:23 pm

"I think the new e-playa reeks of boring negativity."

Okay... Maybe I'm just stirring up the pot, but Tempest... wouldn't you describe your comments as kinda negative?

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Post by TestesInSac » Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:31 pm

sugarlarry wrote:"I think the new e-playa reeks of boring negativity."

Okay... Maybe I'm just stirring up the pot, but Tempest... wouldn't you describe your comments as kinda negative?
Nah, that was radical inclusivity, dewd.

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re spooge pool

Post by matzoboy » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:10 pm

sugarlarry wrote:"Okay, who wants to do the "Spooge in a Pool" theme camp...?"

Don’t shoot me, I’m only the messenger.

1 spooge = 1cc.
15,000 men x 8 days = 120,000 spooges = 120 liters

1 liter = 61 cubic inches.
120 liters = 7321 cubic inches

diameter of wading pool = 72 in.
area of wading pool = * x 36 x 36 = 4069 square inches

7321 cubic inches / 4069 square inches = 1.8 inches deep.

That is, the spooge pool would fill to less than 2” deep. You couldn’t really soak in it; you'd have to lay on your back and scoop it over yourself to get the effect.

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Post by blyslv » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:11 pm

Juju wrote:Next year I want to see more mariachis, dammit!
<shidder> But I live in Santa Fe, home of the omnipresent mariachi band with guacamole stains, no less.


I'm actaully suprosed at how little I danced to electronica this year. Of course I went with the expectation of a lot of dancing, so it just goes to show.
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Post by blyslv » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:18 pm

casnimot wrote:At least all the locals I know plan well for themselves, work hard and take care of themselves, too.
Everybody in our camp did that as well, at a minumum. And many of us were tree hugging liberal fucksticks. I actually never got into any heavy political discussions with any of them, even though I was hoping to. Just didn't seem like there was time.

BTW what's your sign, that might explain some of your...

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Post by blyslv » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:20 pm

tempest wrote:" It's called having a sense of wonder,
That's the best sentence I've read in a while.
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Post by Zane5100 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:20 pm

:shock:
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Post by blyslv » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:28 pm

Actually the best dancing we found was at the Slow Dance Pagoda. On beyond "Stairway to Heaven" dude! It was dreamy just swaying in the arms of your baby in the middle of the playa while gorgeous people would come and go. Kudos, love and felicitations to Johanna and Shauna.

One thing that I might suggest to Mr. DJ is breaking it up. Why all one genre? Why not a set of be-bop smoothness followed by raukesness followed by hippy drippy trance-oid and billygoat slam-grass?

Are these big sound installations amenable to a stranger slipping them a CD or do you have to have some formal DJing chops to get a slot? I mean we all know what makes people dance, it ain't rocket science.
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Post by TestesInSac » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:29 pm

blyslv wrote:
casnimot wrote:At least all the locals I know plan well for themselves, work hard and take care of themselves, too.
Everybody in our camp did that as well, at a minumum. And many of us were tree hugging liberal fucksticks.

Same with my camp, and they're all local to Sacto.
blyslv wrote:I actually never got into any heavy political discussions with any of them...
Neither did I, and a good thing too. My POV would have been severely judged, just as those "ecstatic joy" types do on this board. Radical inclusivity my ass...
blyslv wrote:BTW what's your sign, that might explain some of your...
You mean this board hanging around my neck? Can't read it, it's upside down. Seems to start with an "S", though.
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Re: Mariachis!

Post by Flon » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:44 pm

Flux wrote:I know of a guy in the organization who is working to get a full-blown mariachi band to Burning Man. Stay tuned -- your wish may come true! :)
Hell Yes!!

I would also like to see more bagpipes, a Javanese gamelon, Swiss Alp horns, a production of Mozart's <i>The Magic Flute</i> done in fetish wear, and a 24-hour stage dedicated to the music of John Cage (we should be able to get enough people to do multiple performances of <i>4' 33"</i> at least).

Let's hear it for REAL musical diversity at Burning Man.

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Re: Mariachis!

Post by Zane5100 » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:48 pm

Flon wrote:
Flux wrote:I know of a guy in the organization who is working to get a full-blown mariachi band to Burning Man. Stay tuned -- your wish may come true! :)
Hell Yes!!

I would also like to see more bagpipes, a Javanese gamelon, Swiss Alp horns, a production of Mozart's <i>The Magic Flute</i> done in fetish wear, and a 24-hour stage dedicated to the music of John Cage (we should be able to get enough people to do multiple performances of <i>4' 33"</i> at least).

Let's hear it for REAL musical diversity at Burning Man.
How about a Balinese gamelon, and please, please, please any opera other then one by Mozart or Wagner...
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Post by sugarlarry » Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:31 pm

Matzoboy,

You sir... have gone too far. However... what could be done to increase production?

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Post by stuart » Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:45 pm

...My POV would have been severely judged...
come now tom, tell me you don't think you are not guilty of this. Sorry for the double negative.

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what about the evil playa gnomes?

Post by Fencing man » Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:12 pm

I may not return to Burning Man for fear of the tiny evil beings I saw Saturday night. Like garden gnomes they were, but covered in dust and
smoking cheap cigars (the kind you buy at 7Eleven after a binge on mickeys big mouths). They were scurrying about trying to pinch people,
and this was the horrible part... THEIR THUMBS WERE AS BIG AS THEIR
HEADS! Oh the horror! Trembling, I asked a camp mate if he new of these terrible little elves. He said they were called "greeters".
Yuck.

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Post by TestesInSac » Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:15 pm

stuart scanlon wrote:
...My POV would have been severely judged...
come now tom, tell me you don't think you are not guilty of this. Sorry for the double negative.
If I were, I couldn't have worked with the guys at the Horsecow all last year. They thought I was a cop, at first, and knew all along that I am a business conservative, as I knew how left of center they are. When you're working on the same things it doesn't matter. My sense is that while many of them are quite liberal, they do value real contribution, just as I do. And it was important enough to me to take care what I say.

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Re: dj big "E"

Post by bigdave » Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:35 pm

dj big E wrote:hey my arguements are great and my grammar sucks.lmao but this treehuggers pissing me off i spent 6 hours on monday picking up moop from other peoples camps they all abandoned sun this asshole probly ran to civilization with all the other winy assholes during sundays great windstorm.well you get the jist of it quit fucking whining bm was great this year nekt year is only 359 days away fucking stay home whiners.dj big "E"
Yep. The DJ is a master of sucky grammar and the Appeal to Ridicule.

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Re: dj big "E"

Post by PJ » Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:39 pm

dj big E wrote:...my grammar sucks.lmao
I'll take dj big E's bad grammar over most people's adequate grammar any day.

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Re: re spooge pool

Post by bigdave » Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:41 pm

matzoboy wrote:
sugarlarry wrote:"Okay, who wants to do the "Spooge in a Pool" theme camp...?"

Don’t shoot me, I’m only the messenger.

1 spooge = 1cc.
15,000 men x 8 days = 120,000 spooges = 120 liters

1 liter = 61 cubic inches.
120 liters = 7321 cubic inches

diameter of wading pool = 72 in.
area of wading pool = * x 36 x 36 = 4069 square inches

7321 cubic inches / 4069 square inches = 1.8 inches deep.

That is, the spooge pool would fill to less than 2” deep. You couldn’t really soak in it; you'd have to lay on your back and scoop it over yourself to get the effect.
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Post by PJ » Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:51 pm

> 15,000 men x 8 days = 120,000 spooges

Only one spooge per man per day? Them's awfully low expectations.

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Post by Isotopia » Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:22 pm

Is this gonna be like Camp Bukkake?

And does this mean the Queen of Black Rock will be inseminated by her male drones by being expected to sit naked in this pool of wigglers to pass on the genes to the playa?

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dj big E says lmao

Post by dj big E » Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:57 pm

dave if anyone sounds like a true spoogemaster you must be the guy.it's official big dave is master of spoogecamp lmao.thanks p.j fuc um if they can't take it lmao.cya all soon or maybe never lmao. dj big "E"

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Re: WHY I’M NOT GOING BACK TO BURNING MAN

Post by nymphgonebad » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:49 pm

bigdave wrote:1. Playa Nazis: These people make Burning Man (BM) lovely. They are the pinnacles of environmental stewardship, the defenders of Mother Earth, the thin green line between the sacred playa and 29,771 ignorant burners. Leave No Trace, except tire tracks, air pollution, motor oil, antifreeze, transmission fluid, gear oil, power steering fluid, brake fluid, gas, etc. What, you thought that those thousands of vehicles parked on the playa don’t drip? How about all the 30-40 year old hippie buses? No smog checks, 6 miles to the gallon, and lots of old seals to leak. Very eco-conscious. But it’s OK, because the dreadlocked hippie crews are so artsy, so creative, so eccentric, so spiritual, and they brought great E. And I’m sure they all parked on a tarp with drip pans.


not to be too indelicate here, bigdave, but is anyone who tells you how to do something a nazi, or is it just the tree-huggers that chap your ass?

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Post by nymphgonebad » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:54 pm

Borris wrote: Did u find them virgins? 'cause everyone promissed them to me but I never found them.

(Mental note to self: stop smoking dope with old men on mountains)

dewd, it's not gonna help you get any virgins. i'd keep smoking dope with old men on mountains and look for some experienced ( and yes, enthusiatic ) women.

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Post by nymphgonebad » Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:56 pm

PJ wrote:
I'll have to check my notes, but if memory serves Jews go to Miami Beach after they die.
not anymore, pj. ever since madonna and stalone took over miami beach, now jews go to hallendale after they die.

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