Welcome President Obama

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:42 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:
Now he says he needs to see it in person - as if he deserves some sort of special access.

That's entertainment!

Definitely agree with you on that. But it's a crying shame that politics in this day and age comes down to that.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:15 pm

Obama is the worst president ever.

He's a arrogant fuck.

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:37 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:Obama is the worst president ever.

He's a arrogant fuck.

I would disagree.

lucky420 · Post by **lucky420** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:38 pm

I will also disagree. I think our most arrogant fuck of a president was Cheney...

Post by **Elderberry** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:04 pm

lucky420 wrote:I will also disagree. I think our most arrogant fuck of a president was Cheney...

LOL Snap and double snap!

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:59 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:Obama is the worst president ever.

He's a arrogant fuck.

I disagree, My vote goes for Abe Lincoln. He was so completely inept and inexperienced that he let the power brokers throw the country into civil war. NOTHING compares to civil war.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:40 pm

Ah............. Cheney was not president... he was vice-president.

Studpidheads.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:04 pm

No, Bush was the stupidhead...Cheney was the arrogant fuck

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:48 pm

150 years ago we fought a bloody civil war against the rich and their institution of slavery...don't give me shit that it wasn't war against the rich. Which poor southern white owned slaves or would have risked everything to defend this evil institution? Today our new slavery is financial obeisance to the even more powerful rich who deserve the same level of opposition and overthrow as their southern counterparts 150 years ago.

lucky420 · Post by **lucky420** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:17 am

Ah Donna, I know that bush was our "official" president but who really ran the office...It was the Dick and Karl show (insert circus music)

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:52 am

This country is broken beyond repair.

We need a revolution. Blood must be shed.

Nobody represents me. We are in the pit of despair.

wedeliver · Post by **wedeliver** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:04 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:This country is broken beyond repair.

We need a revolution. Blood must be shed.

Nobody represents me. We are in the pit of despair.

I wonder what is going on in your life that makes you so unhappy? Have you had some extreme personal loss? Myself, things kinda suck but things have sucked before and I have managed to recover, even better each time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:28 pm

Donna Matrix wrote:This country is broken beyond repair.

We need a revolution. Blood must be shed.

Nobody represents me. We are in the pit of despair.

Didn't you start a thread about how much you hate idiots? Based on this post it sounds like the pot was calling the kettle black.

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:31 pm

cowboyangel wrote:150 years ago we fought a bloody civil war against the rich and their institution of slavery...don't give me shit that it wasn't war against the rich. Which poor southern white owned slaves or would have risked everything to defend this evil institution? Today our new slavery is financial obeisance to the even more powerful rich who deserve the same level of opposition and overthrow as their southern counterparts 150 years ago.

I can't say that i totally disagree with your post.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:20 pm

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As I predicted right at the Obama start up.. He has been stonewalled at eeery effort in DC..

Vote the fucker that can't do, out.. This party line for the sake of a party line is a bunch of shit.

Make you finger pointing and laughing at the fucker be heard.. Write Email to them.. Tell them to shit or get off the pot.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:43 pm

problem is, IMHO, most prez's can't do anything........the problem, to me, is congress.
Always is, always has been.

no matter who's in the white house, the opposition can and usually, to some degree does, stop/block what they think will make the "other side" look good. No matter if it's the right thing. It's so rare, both sides, to any degree, agree on any course of action.

we can piss and moan all day about whomever is president........congress, is the larger evil in D.C.

the prez, usually, is just a "talking head" set out there, for meeting dignitaries, pardoning turkeys (human and avian), and to focus our attention on, so as to leave the dark dirty little congresspersons free to work their magic..........

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:02 pm

unjonharley wrote:/

As I predicted right at the Obama start up.. He has been stonewalled at eeery effort in DC..

Vote the fucker that can't do, out.. This party line for the sake of a party line is a bunch of shit.

Make you finger pointing and laughing at the fucker be heard.. Write Email to them.. Tell them to shit or get off the pot.

Not a bad record for being so stonewalled though:

Below is a list of 100 Accomplishments of President Barack Obama as posted via Status Updates on the â€œAccomplishments of President Barack Obamaâ€

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:06 pm

ygmir wrote:problem is, IMHO, most prez's can't do anything........the problem, to me, is congress.
Always is, always has been.

no matter who's in the white house, the opposition can and usually, to some degree does, stop/block what they think will make the "other side" look good. No matter if it's the right thing. It's so rare, both sides, to any degree, agree on any course of action.

we can piss and moan all day about whomever is president........congress, is the larger evil in D.C.

the prez, usually, is just a "talking head" set out there, for meeting dignitaries, pardoning turkeys (human and avian), and to focus our attention on, so as to leave the dark dirty little congresspersons free to work their magic..........

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ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:06 pm

oh JK, you quixotic devil you............

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:42 pm

John,

The list looks impressive, but on the scale of things, it's relatively unimportant and I wonder who really is behind publishing it. The list just doesn't matter to those million or so already foreclosed on or facing it...the list of the 20% or or more still unemployed, the unions who've been waiting for passage of the employee free choice act and for that matter a strong White House response to anti-union Gov. Walker of Wisconsin, the empty promise of "green jobs", the promise, in the face of the level 7 nuke nightmare of nuclear power in Japan, to build more plants here and not step up the oversight and decommissioning of aging plants, the targeted assassinations by drone, the 9/11 wars continuation, the White House rule by banking and corporations, the failure to reign in Israel and allowing it to continue its illegal and brutal war against Palestinians...God...my list is much better and more dismal and all the more reason to ouster this corporate shill, this empty nothing of a leader, this failed democrat, this tool of Wall St.....crap....and replace him with a candidate of the people. If such exists.

If not, then maybe it's time to take Jefferson literally.

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:17 pm

cowboyangel wrote:John,

The list looks impressive, but on the scale of things, it's relatively unimportant and I wonder who really is behind publishing it. The list just doesn't matter to those million or so already foreclosed on or facing it...the list of the 20% or or more still unemployed, the unions who've been waiting for passage of the employee free choice act and for that matter a strong White House response to anti-union Gov. Walker of Wisconsin, the empty promise of "green jobs", the promise, in the face of the level 7 nuke nightmare of nuclear power in Japan, to build more plants here and not step up the oversight and decommissioning of aging plants, the targeted assassinations by drone, the 9/11 wars continuation, the White House rule by banking and corporations, the failure to reign in Israel and allowing it to continue its illegal and brutal war against Palestinians...God...my list is much better and more dismal and all the more reason to ouster this corporate shill, this empty nothing of a leader, this failed democrat, this tool of Wall St.....crap....and replace him with a candidate of the people. If such exists.

If not, then maybe it's time to take Jefferson literally.

OK now let's stop with the crazy talk.

Aside from that, read the post that Ygmir made earlier. It's not only the President, it's the congress and the senate.

If only I were king of the world things would be a lot different too, and a lot more quickly.

Congress isn't working all that well, but the fickleness of the voters doesn't help the situation either. Change takes time and happens in baby steps...sometimes, because of the afore mentioned fickle voters, it's like one step forward and two steps back.

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Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:12 am

The voters are not fickle. It is their right and duty to vote for candidates and issues that they believe in. The problem is that they are being lied to by the incumbents, the democrats, the republicans, the corporations and the bankers. With so much disinformation in the corporate owned press how are the voters to make an informed decision on who to vote for?

Post by **Elderberry** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:10 am

Box Burner wrote:The voters are not fickle. It is their right and duty to vote for candidates and issues that they believe in. The problem is that they are being lied to by the incumbents, the democrats, the republicans, the corporations and the bankers. With so much disinformation in the corporate owned press how are the voters to make an informed decision on who to vote for?

Voters are fickle. Most expect change to happen over night. When it doesn't, they change their vote in the next election, there by insuring that what they 'believe' in never has enough time to fully materialize.

Unless you watch Fox 'news', the information available is adequate to allow for informed decision making. Most people don't take the time to read, and depend on sound bites and paid advertising in making their decisions.

To prove my point, I will go out on a limb and guess you have never read or studied the voter guide sent to you in the mail by the election board prior to each election. They are long and boring, but they do contain all the facts.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:53 am

I think that many of us give too much power to these numbnuts in Washington. The important things in my life cannot be influenced by anything that they decide, and if they do, it's easy enough for me to develop a work-around rather than moan about a situation that I have little influence over.

That said, Barack seems to be a very sharp individual and he's an excellent sea-change from the embarrassing nitwit who once lived in that mansion.

Box Burner · Post by **Box Burner** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:03 am

jkisha wrote: Unless you watch Fox 'news', the information available is adequate to allow for informed decision making. Most people don't take the time to read, and depend on sound bites and paid advertising in making their decisions.

I have read the voters guide. Not always though. You are right, it is long and boring and probably most people do not read it at all. That however does not excuse the amount of disinformation in the media.

Post by **Elderberry** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:39 am

Box Burner wrote:
jkisha wrote: Unless you watch Fox 'news', the information available is adequate to allow for informed decision making. Most people don't take the time to read, and depend on sound bites and paid advertising in making their decisions.

I have read the voters guide. Not always though. You are right, it is long and boring and probably most people do not read it at all. That however does not excuse the amount of disinformation in the media.

I can totally agree with your comment as stated here. Though I don't believe that the disinformation is driven by corporate interests per se, unless you are meaning the profit motivation by what they report being able to generate high viewer numbers which in turn generate high advertising volume; then I would sadly agree.

But the bottom line is, the "consumer" of media are those with the power of free choice as to where they go for their information. If people choose to drink from a poisoned well, should they be surprised when they get sick?

Post by **Elderberry** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:50 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:I think that many of us give too much power to these numbnuts in Washington. The important things in my life cannot be influenced by anything that they decide, and if they do, it's easy enough for me to develop a work-around rather than moan about a situation that I have little influence over.

That said, Barack seems to be a very sharp individual and he's an excellent sea-change from the embarrassing nitwit who once lived in that mansion.

Otherwise known as taking advantage of the "loop-holes". Not that anything is wrong with that.

Post by **Elderberry** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:09 pm

cowboyangel wrote:John,

The list looks impressive, but on the scale of things, it's relatively unimportant and I wonder who really is behind publishing it. The list just doesn't matter to those million or so already foreclosed on or facing it...the list of the 20% or or more still unemployed, the unions who've been waiting for passage of the employee free choice act and for that matter a strong White House response to anti-union Gov. Walker of Wisconsin, the empty promise of "green jobs", the promise, in the face of the level 7 nuke nightmare of nuclear power in Japan, to build more plants here and not step up the oversight and decommissioning of aging plants, the targeted assassinations by drone, the 9/11 wars continuation, the White House rule by banking and corporations, the failure to reign in Israel and allowing it to continue its illegal and brutal war against Palestinians...God...my list is much better and more dismal and all the more reason to ouster this corporate shill, this empty nothing of a leader, this failed democrat, this tool of Wall St.....crap....and replace him with a candidate of the people. If such exists.

If not, then maybe it's time to take Jefferson literally.

OK, enough with the crazy talk. (is this deja vu all over again?)

We really agree on much of the goal, though I think you need to take a political stroll through history (only the last 30 years will due) to understand how we got to where we are and what is needed to fix it. It took us a full 30 years to move to where we are and it will take no less time to advance a more liberal agenda to where you are hoping to see it go.

Oh, and what difference does it make who compiled the list as long as it's accurate?

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:17 am

â€œIâ€™m only going to be president a little bit longer,â€

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:40 pm

hey CSS, lets make a bet, Obama wins 2012, you never post your hideous bullshit on these boards ever again.

if he loses, and i am most certain he will not, i will do the same...except, my bullshit will be missed, yours will not.

garbage in garbage out....i would hate to be in your mind.