things I just don't understand, pleae help.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:14 am

Just stuff that doesn't make sense, and, an explanation is needed, to avoid vexation.
anyone with an answer is encouraged to respond.

I'll start:

why, do some hard boiled eggs peel so easy, and others, take half the white with them?

Bluemandrew · Post by **Bluemandrew** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:27 am

ygmir wrote:Just stuff that doesn't make sense, and, an explanation is needed, to avoid vexation.
anyone with an answer is encouraged to respond.

I'll start:

why, do some hard boiled eggs peel so easy, and others, take half the white with them?

According to the interwebs (http://kitchensavvy.typepad.com/journal ... rdboi.html)

It appears to be related to the age of the egg and the acidity of the egg.

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:29 am

I noticed that the fresher the egg, the easier it is to peal.

Packoderm · Post by **Packoderm** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:55 am

My father made me an egg boiling basket that resembles a deep-fat fryer basket that perfectly fits my boiling pot. First, I let the eggs warm up to room temperature overnight. I get the water to a rapid boil. I plunge my egg basket full of eggs into the boiling water. As soon as the water is boiling again, I time the boiling for 15 minutes. I remove the basket, replace the boiling water with cold water, and then plunge the eggs into the cold water. After about 15 minutes in the cold water, I remove the boiling basket from the water and place it on the counter top to let the eggs dry, and then put the whole thing in the refrigerator, or I might sometimes put the eggs back into the carton. About a year or so ago before I used the above method, I'd often get eggs that were so difficult to peel I'd sometimes slam partially peeled eggs into the trash can while I curse out loud. Currently, I might get an egg or two that cracks during the boiling process, but I have not had to throw away a difficult to peel egg since I started using the boiling basket. I'd take a picture of my boiling basket, but my kitchen is such a shameful mess that I couldn't bear to show it to all cyberspace. Maybe this might be the inspiration it takes for me to clean it up.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:05 am

I may try that basket thing.......

the eggs I used this morning, were fresh, from my friend down the street.

J/J · Post by **J/J** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:17 am

Noob confusion! Potluck at BRC as in gifting food and Department of Health regulations?

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:25 am

tootsybean wrote:Noob confusion! Potluck at BRC as in gifting food and Department of Health regulations?

I'd say potluck.........and, I'd also imagine that's looked at differently than handing out food to the public in general.

A group of friends deciding to make a communal meal withing said group, would be different than handing grilled cheese sandwiches to passersby.

but, that's just my take on it.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:07 am

I heard that the older the egg the easier to peel. This is because of the breakdown in the protein holding the shell onto the white.

3 week old eggs peel. Fresh eggs do not. Most people boil store bought eggs and their advice is just superstitious. It's actually a science.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:07 am

ygmir... do you need eggs?

Packoderm · Post by **Packoderm** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:25 am

I'll just ignore both the science and the superstitions and continue to boil the eggs on the day that I buy them. Since I started boiling them my new way, I haven't had to worry about it. The biggest problem for me with the basket boiling method is that it so easy that I now boil and peal so many eggs that I am getting tired of eating them all the time. I only eat one yolk out of five eggs to cut down on fat and cholesterol. My dogs get the excess yolks. They have gotten good at catching them in the air.

Donna Matrix · Post by **Donna Matrix** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:29 am

Packoderm wrote:I'll just ignore both the science and the superstitions and continue to boil the eggs on the day that I buy them. Since I started boiling them my new way, I haven't had to worry about it. The biggest problem for me with the basket boiling method is that it so easy that I now boil and peal so many eggs that I am getting tired of eating them all the time. I only eat one yolk out of five eggs to cut down on fat and cholesterol. My dogs get the excess yolks. They have gotten good at catching them in the air.

Eat the yolks. I teach nutrition at the local college. Seriously, you are avoiding that which you should not avoid.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:46 am

I seem to remember something about salt in the water and how long you cook them.
Can't be sure.

I love deviled eggs.
One of our oldest recipes too.

delle · Post by **delle** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:53 pm

Packoderm wrote:I'll just ignore both the science and the superstitions and continue to boil the eggs on the day that I buy them.

I wonder tho.... You say earlier that you let them sit out at room temperature overnight before doing your boiling process. It makes me wonder if the membrane doesn't "detach" some when it's room temperature rather than cold.... accelerating the aging process if you will....

Or rather the opposite..... if just chilling them (i.e. the difference between an hour-old egg from the neighbour's hen and one from the same hen that had been refrigerated) might have an effect on how the membrane sticks.

Maybe Ygmir could experiment???

Packoderm · Post by **Packoderm** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:19 pm

delle wrote:
Packoderm wrote:I'll just ignore both the science and the superstitions and continue to boil the eggs on the day that I buy them.
I wonder tho.... You say earlier that you let them sit out at room temperature overnight before doing your boiling process. It makes me wonder if the membrane doesn't "detach" some when it's room temperature rather than cold.... accelerating the aging process if you will....

Or rather the opposite..... if just chilling them (i.e. the difference between an hour-old egg from the neighbour's hen and one from the same hen that had been refrigerated) might have an effect on how the membrane sticks.

Maybe Ygmir could experiment???

I let the eggs warm up to keep them from cracking when they hit the boiling water. I'll sometimes boil them right when I get back from the store. A few more would crack, but they are the same to peel either way.

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:21 pm

I was taught adding white vinegar to the boiling water is required, why I don't know but now I want some hard boiled eggs myself...and tuna, maybe a tuna hard boiled egg sandwhich, hmmm.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:34 pm

why is it I always wander into threads about food when I am hungry.

I've been freezing eggs. Crack and pour into an ice cube tray and freeze. Then you can put them into zip loc bags and use as needed.

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:38 pm

moonrise wrote:I was taught adding white vinegar to the boiling water is required, why I don't know but now I want some hard boiled eggs myself...and tuna, maybe a tuna hard boiled egg sandwhich, hmmm.

I don't think white vinegar stops the eggs from cracking, but it causes the whites to congeal quickly so you don't lose as much egg from the broken shell.

Leaving the eggs warm up to room temperture is a good idea, then you don't need the vinegar.

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:04 pm

Sail Man wrote:why is it I always wander into threads about food when I am hungry.

I've been freezing eggs. Crack and pour into an ice cube tray and freeze. Then you can put them into zip loc bags and use as needed.

Me too, I'm hungry...(growl)

Sail Man--that is the strangest thing I have ever heard, hahaha! I'd surely use one in a drink by mistake. (I wonder can they be fed through an automatic ice maker?)

I'm tempted to try (Jella's?) boil in the ziplock baggie egg omlette; IF I can get over my panckae addiction...and flambe bacon addiction.

[Thanks jkisha, I'll skip the vinegar]

burner von braun · Post by **burner von braun** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:05 pm

Funny you mention it, I saw video just this week of a guy who cracks up one end of the egg, then makes a small hole in the other end, then cups his hand around the egg for stability and blows through the hole and the air pressure ejects the egg out the fractured end, slick as a whistle. Simply catches it with his awaiting other hand

Think blowgun

Haven't tried it yet but it seemed pretty slick in the video..

YMMV..

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:16 pm

Sail Man wrote:why is it I always wander into threads about food when I am hungry.

I've been freezing eggs. Crack and pour into an ice cube tray and freeze. Then you can put them into zip loc bags and use as needed.

Good idea. Never though of that. Definitely can't freeze them in their shell. I was equally impressed when I learned you can freeze bananas if you peel them first.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:30 pm

moonrise wrote:Sail Man--that is the strangest thing I have ever heard, hahaha! I'd surely use one in a drink by mistake. (I wonder can they be fed through an automatic ice maker?)

Well, that would be a rather humorous mistake

Actually, I learned the tip on a survivalist forum for freezing them. I also store my garden seeds in the freezer.

And just the other day, JKisha pm'd me about storing his Grandma in my freezer until this years Temple Burn, just to keep her fresh, ya know

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:37 pm

burner von braun wrote:Funny you mention it, I saw video just this week of a guy who cracks up one end of the egg, then makes a small hole in the other end, then cups his hand around the egg for stability and blows through the hole and the air pressure ejects the egg out the fractured end, slick as a whistle. Simply catches it with his awaiting other hand

Think blowgun

Haven't tried it yet but it seemed pretty slick in the video..

YMMV..

Lemme know how that goes.......I may have a job for you

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:41 pm

ygmir wrote:
burner von braun wrote:Funny you mention it, I saw video just this week of a guy who cracks up one end of the egg, then makes a small hole in the other end, then cups his hand around the egg for stability and blows through the hole and the air pressure ejects the egg out the fractured end, slick as a whistle. Simply catches it with his awaiting other hand

Think blowgun

Haven't tried it yet but it seemed pretty slick in the video..

YMMV..
Lemme know how that goes.......I may have a job for you

Ummm Ygmir, I think he was talking about eggs

Thecatman · Post by **Thecatman** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:42 pm

ygmir wrote:why, do some hard boiled eggs peel so easy, and others, take half the white with them?

I have a similar problem when peeling garlic

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:33 pm

Sail Man wrote:
ygmir wrote:
burner von braun wrote:Funny you mention it, I saw video just this week of a guy who cracks up one end of the egg, then makes a small hole in the other end, then cups his hand around the egg for stability and blows through the hole and the air pressure ejects the egg out the fractured end, slick as a whistle. Simply catches it with his awaiting other hand

Think blowgun

Haven't tried it yet but it seemed pretty slick in the video..

YMMV..
Lemme know how that goes.......I may have a job for you :wink: :wink:
Ummm Ygmir, I think he was talking about eggs :wink:

First thing is we gotta jump on him for mentioning the video and not giving the link. Not having the link is so 20th century...

burner von braun · Post by **burner von braun** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:38 pm

Oh sure, laugh..

Just like they laughed at Albert Schweitzer when he invented the vaccine for koodies, but unlike the good Doctor, I sure as hell don't see any of you guys enshrined at Cooperstown..

..buncha damn slackers is what..

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:39 pm

Well, I'd rather the Good Doctor see me enshrined in Cooperstown, than you did.

No offense.

MyDearFriend · Post by **MyDearFriend** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:49 pm

I don't know if you'll get anybody to blow your eggs for you Ygmir but here is the chemistry on peeling eggs.

Older eggs have had a chance to shrink a bit as the moisture sneaks out through the shell, so, the membranes don't adhere as tightly after cooking. If I am going to peel eggs I buy them a week in advance or, if I can't do that, I rinse them (to get the wax/oil/whatever spray off) and let them sit out for a bit before I boil them.

Plunging them into ice water only helps if you peel them right away. Cracking the eggs in the ice water is the most helpful thing to do, as the egg will shrink just a bit as it cools and the water will sneak in there and and push on the shell for you.

moonrise · Post by **moonrise** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:12 pm

Sail Man wrote:
moonrise wrote:Sail Man--that is the strangest thing I have ever heard, hahaha! I'd surely use one in a drink by mistake. (I wonder can they be fed through an automatic ice maker?)
Well, that would be a rather humorous mistake

Actually, I learned the tip on a survivalist forum for freezing them. I also store my garden seeds in the freezer.

And just the other day, JKisha pm'd me about storing his Grandma in my freezer until this years Temple Burn, just to keep her fresh, ya know

I guess if the power goes out (when it goes out) and there's no gas left for the genie; you make an omelet?

I breed my own garden seeds myself, the mega corporations alter theirs to prevent germination and drive up sales (except for the expensive, fancy, hippie seed companies, sad, really sad) I'm persistant, I buy the low cost mega corp seeds and force them perform. IMHO, It's also a darned good idea to collect and spread the heirloom seeds from old gardens.

[Careful not to include jk's gramma in the omelet, ok?]

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:12 pm

all this egg knowledge..........

things I just don't understand, pleae help.

things I just don't understand, pleae help.

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