"Unusual Perspectives" - A new Burning Man film by

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Wed May 18, 2011 11:55 pm

As an *artiste* I'd suggest being a bit more *articulate*.

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Thu May 19, 2011 4:54 am

Hope you enjoy sitting on that sofa. I'll be over here actually doing stuff. :)

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu May 19, 2011 9:08 am

Like getting all self rightious about early entry?

Post by **Elderberry** » Thu May 19, 2011 9:16 am

Well, he does have an unusual perspective.

Steven bradford · Post by **Steven bradford** » Tue May 24, 2011 9:45 am

Have you thought about body mounting the go pros in unusual spots? The back of the hand or under the wrist is good, so is are the knees, either pointed forward or down.

Clar-i-ty · Post by **Clar-i-ty** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:15 am

I'm going to move past the self-righteous artist mentality of not even introducing yourself and ask a more important question:

Has your video project been approved by Media Mecca?

If you think it's not necessary, I suggest reading http://www.burningman.com/press/press_apply.html .

And yes, my ass is fat, and I sit on it a good amount of time as I do my work, fix bikes to sell so I can earn extra money for the playa, and attempt to teach common courtesy to people asking for money.

C187 · Post by **C187** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:29 am

I like the idea, it would be neat to see.
What I would like to know is what do you need the money for? You obviously have the camera equipment, and the ability to edit. Also, how do you plan on handling the people that don't want to be in the film?

Other then that, it looks like the barrings on your front tire are off, or the tire could be off center on the fork.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:29 am

paynie wrote:Hope you enjoy sitting on that sofa. I'll be over here actually doing stuff.

Contrary to popular belief, taking pictures does not count as 'doing stuff'. In fact, it pretty much puts you in a 'doing stuff' deficit.

This is crying out for a 'kickender', where you donate money to stop bad art.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue May 24, 2011 10:32 am

*hugs the couch's dusty cushions*

Steven bradford · Post by **Steven bradford** » Tue May 24, 2011 11:46 am

Now I remember why I stopped participating in the eplaya. Same old asshats, different decade.

MyDearFriend · Post by **MyDearFriend** » Tue May 24, 2011 4:09 pm

Steven bradford wrote:Now I remember why I stopped participating in the eplaya. Same old asshats, different decade.

Dude, I'm sorry, but did you see what he did? He registered to a very friendly board and then posted a bare-faced request for money. No hi-how-ya-doin or nothin, sheesh, and, and, if you follow the link, what do you see? A promise to feature you in his film, if you pay money.

Shit.

Forget respect for people experiencing the burn as they please, forget the consent required by BMorg for before profiting from images of burners... it's just, pay me money to be in my film! Or, for a larger "donation," he'll give you lessons on how to make a film of your very own.

So yeah call us asshats for not applauding this guy, but, seriously he comes off as a total fuckwad.

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Tue May 24, 2011 11:02 pm

It's been years since I posted anything here .... and now I remember why. 90% bullshit. 10% good stuff.

No, I don't have all the gear to shoot this yet. I've borrowed a couple cameras to shoot tests. It will also take me about 6 weeks to edit.

Try this. If you like it, help out. If you don't, ignore me.

Remember the temple last year. Kickstarter raised $26,000 for that. Many, many projects have been assisted .... just like this one.

Yes, I am full aware that project need to be approved. I know MM very well and am jumping through all the correct hoops.

gaminwench · Post by **gaminwench** » Tue May 24, 2011 11:11 pm

... and he does have an established "track record".

I'm guessing his *assumption* was that most here would be familiar with his previous film...

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Tue May 24, 2011 11:27 pm

Nope. I'm assuming nothing.

Here's a link to my last film.

Available for all to see for free.
Over 1000 views in the past few weeks.

FYI: This will be year 12 for me, so I know the drill.

Clar-i-ty · Post by **Clar-i-ty** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:47 am

paynie wrote:It's been years since I posted anything here .... and now I remember why. 90% bullshit. 10% good stuff.

No, I don't have all the gear to shoot this yet. I've borrowed a couple cameras to shoot tests. It will also take me about 6 weeks to edit.

Try this. If you like it, help out. If you don't, ignore me.

You know what, you're right. Obviously, you have your way of doing things.

If some of us find it rude to be asked for money to support a project without an introduction of who you are, an explanation of what you are doing, or background about you and your ability to realize the project, then that's the way we do things.

Goodbye.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Wed May 25, 2011 4:27 am

paynie wrote:Nope. I'm assuming nothing.

FYI: This will be year 12 for me, so I know the drill.

Check your EGO at the door.

Yes, you have done some great work.

BUT the majority of people DON"T KNOW YOU HERE.

We support those we know.

Get to know us, or fuck off.

Your choice.

MyDearFriend · Post by **MyDearFriend** » Wed May 25, 2011 5:18 am

paynie wrote:Nope. I'm assuming nothing.

Here's a link to my last film.

Available for all to see for free.
Over 1000 views in the past few weeks.

FYI: This will be year 12 for me, so I know the drill.

And after looking at the Kickstarter guidelines on the main page (here) I am wondering why, if you are such a notable elite in-with-the-in-crowd Burner that you need no introduction and can assume with total confidence that your film will be approved, why are you asking us for money?

International Incident · Post by **International Incident** » Wed May 25, 2011 5:42 am

So I checked out his kickstarter page, one of his links does not work and another is all about â€œplankingâ€

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:06 am

"So I checked out his kickstarter page, one of his links does not work and another is all about â€œplankingâ€

illy dilly · Post by **illy dilly** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:38 am

Wow. Well this raises many an eyebrow.
The idea seems great. It could be cool to have a bunch of cool fly by shots and aerial photos. Birds Eye and Ant's Eye shots could be sweet.

I have a tiny bit of experience and spent a bit of time tinkering around in high school with RF cars and planes. We were in the Technology Student Association (TSA) aka Nerds in the south east wing of the school club. Which was cool cause the school gave us a little bit of money each year to Nerd out. A buddy of mine, main reason I even tinkered at all, had an RF helicopter.
They don't work very well in the wind, at all. Typically they are designed to be super light so thay can run off the little mini two stroke gas motors, and get thrown around in the wind. We spent a whole school year playing around with RF planes and my friends helicopter. Still couldn't master it.
Rumor has it, BRC is pretty F-ing windy.

I can't imagine trying to strap a camera to one and throwing the balance all off, plus adding weight.

Interesting.

jerroc · Post by **jerroc** » Wed May 25, 2011 9:07 am

This sounds like it should be a self funded project. Your asking us to fund equiptment not art for the playa.

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Wed May 25, 2011 10:03 am

http://goproheroes.com/v/niNEKrNVtr4/co ... r-gopro-hd

It can be done.

And .......

Jerroc, films are art.

jerroc · Post by **jerroc** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:18 pm

I agree that film is an art, and I rather like that you intend to put a new spin on this film project. Now the filming and its equiptment should be at your expense. BRC does not benifit from you obtaining such expensive stuff. if you were asking for funding on and actual interactive art project involving sharing this film with the BRC then you might recive a welcome responce. So in short Your presentation sucks. I for one don't want shit flying over my head with the wind factor on the playa, and I DON'T KNOW YOU. Why should I give you money?

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:31 pm

So the $26,000 that was raised for the temple can only buy wood, not tools?

Please note I did not ask for any money from anyone here. All I did was post a link to the project on Kickstarter.

Trust me, I will not be flying anything in any wind. I have all sorts of other ways of filming.

I'm not sure how well you know Kickstarter, "knowing" someone doesn't really matter. I've backed over 30 projects so far. Most by people I have not and will never meet.

MyDearFriend · Post by **MyDearFriend** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:53 pm

paynie wrote:So the $26,000 that was raised for the temple can only buy wood, not tools?

Please note I did not ask for any money from anyone here. All I did was post a link to the project on Kickstarter.

Trust me, I will not be flying anything in any wind. I have all sorts of other ways of filming.

I'm not sure how well you know Kickstarter, "knowing" someone doesn't really matter. I've backed over 30 projects so far. Most by people I have not and will never meet.

Yes, but, here we are back at your first post again:

People who get support are ones who introfuckingduce themselves. Not anonomous newly-registered folks who post a bare link to a fund-raising site.

Ah fuck I've been had by a troll.

Dammit...

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:23 pm

I think you are probably right, but at the time I was posting I have no time to write a big blurb. No biggy. Thanks for responding anyway.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed May 25, 2011 4:57 pm

I successfully funded my movie for $5,000. It's in post.
In retrospect it would be good to furnish a preliminary budget to make sure you're not pulling the dollar figure out of your butt.

paynie · Post by **paynie** » Wed May 25, 2011 5:34 pm

The goal, if reached, will pay for a couple GoPros, GoPro accessories, Some r/c stuff (helicopters, cars, gliders etc.) and a few SD cards and a couple hard drives. Everything else will be paid for by me. :)

Got a link to your film?

lucky.bastard · Post by **lucky.bastard** » Wed May 25, 2011 5:41 pm

i can't post a link right now but google " two girls one cup " .... it will make you laugh, it will make you cry

"Unusual Perspectives" - A new Burning Man film by

"Unusual Perspectives" - A new Burning Man film by

Great idea.