israel, judaism, jews and zionism

[can't sit still]

There is a new aid flotilla forming up to land at Gaza.
"Military sources said the army was working on “new methodsâ€

[can't sit still]

Why is a Minnesota paper the only outlet talking about a rally in Los Angeles? Are west coast papers to ?shy?
"I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States . . . [W]e have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play"

http://minnesotaindependent.com/55061/b ... ect-israel
She can keep her "inextricably entwined".
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel , we had no enemies in the Middle East .â€

[can't sit still]

History is at a turning point in regards to israel. Palestine is going to apply to the U.N. to be it's own country. They want the 1967 borders. Obama has endorsed that idea;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_ ... RlbGxzaXM-

There is no way to overstate this change from Washington. It is earthshaking. MANY countries have endorsed the idea of statehood for Palestine. Obama tried to work with Netanyahu. Netanyahu did not bargain in good faith. If Netanyahu gives away an inch of land or freezes building, the settlers will revolt. The settlers have already said that they will have civil war. The IDF will not be keen to kill settlers. The settlers will massacre Palestinians until the West steps in.

Like the israelis, England had every weapon available. After the Sepoy Revolt, they killed 10 million Indians. Gandhi came along and got the Indians to use their bodies instead of weapons.
The latest Nabka day protest moved in that direction. Unarmed thousands stormed the barricades. The israelis killed some of them on foreign soil even before they crossed the border.
The Egyptians learned that they only need to show a high death count to get opinion behind them. The various groups of displaced Palestinians seem to be willing to supply lots of corpses if that will change the deadlock on their desire to return.

The israelis are armed with bullets, nukes, intolerance and intransigence. The arabs can't compete on that level. The various arab donor states have pumped in supplies until the population is bursting the seams of the various enclaves. The palestinian birth rate is 7.4 per woman. During "Operation cast Lead" there were reportedly 1434 killed,, 432 of them being children. There were even more than this born during the attack.

The West generally subscribes to the Christian ideals of avoiding killing unarmed demonstrators. The israelis have no strategy for dealing with mass incursions into their "stolen" territory. In the Nabka day protests / incursion, EVERYBODY took pictures.

The isralies have shown abysmal stupidity in their response to arab and palestinian actions. They stormed a Turkish ship and killed several people. They could have just used a tugboat and blocked it. In response, Turkey canceled a big joint oil-pipeline project and moved many of it's missiles to protect Iran. If the arabs can maneuver israel to create a bloodbath as a response to a huge incursion, they will have won a major battle. I suppose that they would need to do it shortly before the U.N. debate on palestinian statehood.

China is now backing Palestine. About 50 other countries have signed on to the idea of palestinian statehood. The israelis have counted on the American veto to protect them. I seriously doubt that the israeli mindset will allow a palestinian state. I seriously doubt that the western mindset will allow unfettered genocide.
Israel imports all of it's oil. They can be choked off in a day. I don't wish it on then but, decades ago, they developed and promoted themselves as "the mad dog of the world". The world is growing very weary of the mad dog.

"Mr Obama, on the other hand, "sees [Mr Netanyahu] as a con man and an obstacle "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 87180.html

[can't sit still]

This is a paper on religious inadequacy. It is on judaism but, could easily be on any organized religion. "Let us be honest. Why blame our own inadequacies on a mysteriously inexplicable G-d or on a Judaism we find fault with? Why say we are looking for G-d when we are really looking for the path of least resistance? Let us not abuse that which is holy for purposes of self-justification."
It's the bottom half of the page. http://www.chabadfourways.org/index.php ... atest-news

[Sham]

I received this email this morning and felt that this thread was the best place to post it. In fact, it's the perfect place.
My apologies for the cut and paste!
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Something to Consider

The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15, 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.

REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ...
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The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics:
(zero)
Physics:
(zero)
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A.. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: 129!

The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel ..." Benjamin Netanyahu

General Eisenhower Warned Us It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.
He did this because he said in words to this effect:
'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated' while the German people looked the other way.

Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the United States ?

[can't sit still]

"Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part"
This says it all right here. While I may condemn the actions of israel as being genocidal, history may show that isreal was the front line in the battle to keep Western ideals from being purged from the world.
I started a thread on islam to see what y'all had to say. There wasn't a lot of discussion. Saudi Arabia is a very conservative variation of islam called Wahhabism. If one examines islam, one sees that it flourishes with ignorant people. Saudi has a university and a decent education system. I don't know enough to say if islam generally promotes education or not. There is always the possibility that islam could promote education and still cling to intolerance of other faiths.
Tainter wrote a book; The Collapse of complex Societies. Our society has reached such a level of complexity that it can NOT be sustained by a people who reject education. Islamic countries don't have a great track record for education. Indonesia has the highest number of muslims. They seem to have a pretty good commitment to education;
http://stats.uis.unesco.org/unesco/Tabl ... untry=3600
Many of the rest,, not so good. If islam promotes ignorance so as to not conflict with dogma, it is suicidal. It certainly doesn't have a good record in France.
It is interesting that the article is printed in a Spanish paper. Spain "hosted" the Moors for 600 years. In that period, steel-making was brought from Damascus to Toledo. Architecture made great leaps forward. Literature was greatly expanded. Salamanca was a world center of learning. Other areas were repressed.
The islamic expansion of today is a different creature entirely. Many of the immigrants are the cast-offs who have no niche in their home country. They contribute nothing but ignorance and intolerance to their new "host". They're parasites in that they contribute nothing to the body-social or the economy.
Here's an example of what to expect;

You can watch even if you don't speak French.

[can't sit still]

For better or for worse, israel has chosen to occupy a very contested piece of real estate. The early settlers got a bad start when they indulged in ethnic cleansing. That pretty much set the tone for the future. In the face of increasing hostility from neighbors, israel is increasingly forced to take a defensive posture.
Iran is the main enemy. Through proxies, Iran has been chipping away at israel. The Anglo-American hegemon has been able to neutralize or pay-off the rest. The countries that wouldn't be bought off were bombed back to the stone age.
Iran is a different story. They can't be bought off and ,so far, they haven't been bombed back to the stone age. They have the Russian missiles that can take out our entire naval fleet. They have backing from both Russia and China. They have their own factories for Exocet missiles. They claim that they can fire 11,000 missiles a minute. They also have the backing of Turkey. Turkey has a huge armed force and about 100 nukes. They have already moved missiles to protect Iran.
There is no possibility of a war with Iran that would leave the Straights of Hormuz open.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... ssad-chief

Netanyahu is itching for a war with Iran. The former head of MOSSAD,,, Dagan, has been described as such; "He is one of the most rightwing militant people ever born here ... who ate Arabs for breakfast, lunch and dinner."
"In his latest comments, he said that if Israel attacks Iran, it will find itself at the centre of a regional war that would endanger the state's existence."

Think what "regional war" means. Turkey is 99% Muslim. Turkey has nukes. Think about 2 theocracies with nuclear weapons.
Said about Dagan; " When this man says that the leadership has no vision and is irresponsible, we should stop sleeping soundly at night."

Dagan was quoted in the newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth describing Netanyahu and Barak as "irresponsible and reckless individuals".
A "regional war" in the Middle-East between 2 nuclear-armed theocracies would, among other things, cut off oil to much of the West.
If the israeli spymaster is worried about irresponsible actions from Netanyahu, the world should be worried. Israel can't reasonably expect to attack Iran without an escalation.
If israel quashes the Palestinian statehood vote in September, I suspect that Iran will increase pressure on israel.

General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Netanyahu had this to say to Medvedev;
"Grim reports circulating in the Kremlin today are stating that during a “shouting matchâ€

[can't sit still]

Roy Tov has his own agenda but, he has pretty good info. It remains to be see if he is accurate in this case. "Jerusalem is bracing up for the imminent Palestinian independence declaration. Netanyahu’s recent declarations during the Jerusalem Day events leave no doubt Israel is preparing for war."
http://www.roytov.com/articles/durban.htm
Maybe that is what Dagan is worried about.

[gyre]

I received this email this morning and felt that this thread was the best place to post it. In fact, it's the perfect place.
My apologies for the cut and paste!
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Something to Consider

I was wondering what your take was?

[gyre]

I have mentioned how drastically the news is now censored, started as a way to hide the war reality, it now seems to be fashionable.
Much of the uncensored news is of uncertain source, and takes some effort to sift reality, though some sites are better than others.

This is an example of a well covered story with censored and public versions.
If you search, there is probably every variant from news to propaganda out there due to the nature of the story.

I didn't choose this for particular significance, just the massive coverage and the reliablility of the sources of the material that has been released.
The contrast between reality and coverage can be just as dramatic in any story today.



http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/ ... index.html

http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article315189.ece

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 18656.html

http://www.yideotube.com/2011/03/shomro ... -five.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12721170
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12725487

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvan ... -care.html

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... erers.html

Graphic coverage
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... death.html

Uncensored

[can't sit still]

I traveled the area several years ago to find out for myself,, firsthand. I bought English-language papers from various sources and read about incidents. The news was always slanted with huge sins of omission. Truth is always elusive.
Some of the cited sources mention that the settlements are illegal under international law and some don't.
Netanyahu is stupid. The Arabs can "play" him easily. He keeps making stupid decisions. There is a new flotilla forming up for later in June. He plans to use as much force as possible to stop it. If Bibi had a fucking brain, he would realize that he is being set up,,, just like last time. The newly-opened crossing from Egypt can bring in all the needed supplies. There is no need for a flotilla for relief.
The flotilla will be used as a provocation before the September vote on Palestinian statehood. Bibi will supply the requisite murders to sway the vote. The fact that the last flotilla had a Turkish element should have warned Bibi that he was being set up. Nope,, he shot a bunch just as the muslims had planned. An idiot with nukes.

[gyre]

Lack of journalism is definitely an issue, but I was trying to show how dramatically news coverage has been affected by this mainstream censorship.
War coverage, but no one ever gets wounded on camera.
Apparently the worst cameramen in history, or censorship.
This seems to be primarily a western phenomenon.

On nightline, someone was killed off camera once and it was almost shocking that they broadcast it.
Excellent nearly live style coverage.


How different is
Yemen Protesters Killed

and

Yemen Protesters Killed - Photos

[can't sit still]

Bibi and his predecessors poisoned the idea of a jewish homeland. Too much hatred. As Shambala and other pointed out, the jews have a lot to offer. I suspect that the financial collapse of America will be the turning point in the dissolution of israel. The writing is already [faintly] on the wall. "A 2008 survey by the Jerusalem-based Menachem Begin Heritage Center found that 59% of Israelis had approached or intended to approach a foreign embassy to inquire about or apply for citizenship and a passport. Today it is estimated that the figure is approaching 70%."
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/ ... passports/
Hatred and greed.

[Ugly Dougly]

I'd argue that it's not about the US's "pending collapse" but about the radical changes in government pending in their two powerful neighbors - Egypt and Syria. I'd keep my options open too.

[can't sit still]

Science seems to have made a lot of progress in "Fracking". Reportedly, this could allow the extraction of $ 27 trillion in oil within israel. It's well known that Middle-East reserves are dwindling. Looking at the map, Rosh Ha'ayin seems to be under land that is not contested. There is no doubt that this discovery will seriously change the balance of power in the area.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israeli-com ... yin-1.1465

[can't sit still]

There is going to be a vote on palestinian statehood coming up. Israel is doing a full-court press to keep the statehood from bing approved. This is a vid from a Israeli comedy. It's set to opera;

[socks]

CSS you seem to post all of the gop talking points.One would think you are a right wing tool.

[Foxfur]

WTF CSS?
Are you with Pamphlet Camp?
I'm not signing anything. Nope. Keep your petitions out of my aura.


Seriously though, I've always felt that Jews taste better than Muslims. Muzzies are bitter, dry, chewy and invariably smell like pigshit. I know, the irony.

Working for world peace.
One forkfull at a time.

Ff

[can't sit still]

The new freedom-flotilla is forming up. The more deaths that occur,,, the more publicity it will receive. All of this is done in the run-up to the Palestinian statehood vote coming up in the U.N. A war of opinion, lies, truth and sympathy, The whole operation will be well-lubricated with blood.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/0 ... 681999.php

[Simon of the Playa]

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[can't sit still]

http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/
By Richard Edmondson

Israel apparently intends to use a 217-year-old U.S. law as part of a campaign of legal coercion aimed at stopping the Freedom Flotilla II from setting sail for Gaza with its cargo of humanitarian supplies.

The law in question is the Neutrality Act of 1794, which forbids preparation of “the means for any military expedition or enterpriseâ€

[can't sit still]

"He has influenced Israel for the better more than any other American Jew "
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/a-special- ... l-1.368946

[can't sit still]

Once again, there is much talk about war with Iran. This article claims that Gates blocked israel's earlier attempts to start the war. Apparently, there is no one to block them since Gates is gone. Apparently, the U.S. navy is moving capital ships to the area. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cvn-77 ... ael-iran-w
There are a few articles on the subject; http://america-hijacked.com/2011/07/18/ ... n-in-fall/
The article claims that israel wants to drag America into the war. That is a given. There is also the possibility that China and Russia could be dragged in. They both have financial and strategic interests in the area. Turkey may very well enter also. They are adjacent to Iran and have 100 nukes,,, lots of temptation.

[can't sit still]

Reportedly, Norway says that force should be used against israel if it attacks Palestine. http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 073714.ece
The danger of all this is that israel may feel so persecuted that it attacks the West. They have already threatened to do this.

[can't sit still]

Israel, like the typical theocracy is screwed up fiscally. They trashed their currency in the 80s. Israelis had to trade their old shekels for new shekels at the exchange rate of 1,000-1. Many countries have had to do this. Considering the education level of israel, this is inexcusable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_new_shekel
It seems that inflation is on the loose again. The developed-world phenomenon of falling wages / purchasing power has hit israel.
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-isr ... -is-f.html
Much like Europe, israel has very high youth unemployment. It turns out that young israelis have the same complaints as the rest of the Middle-East AND the developed world. It would seem that an easy answer will not appear. With a low birth rate and good education, israel should have lower youth unemployment than it's high birth rate neighbors who have a much weaker education system.

[Simon of the Playa]

yadda, yadda, yadda....

[can't sit still]

The protests in israel are really growing. More and more, they are resembling the protests in Arab countries,,, European countries, America, et al.
http://www.roytov.com/articles/telavivp ... st2011.htm

Here is a list of demands;
"Later, protest leaders will present a second document, explaining their demands in detail. They include providing public housing, better lower cost healthcare, free education, lower classroom sizes, more social workers, teachers and doctors, full employment, higher wages, lower taxes, better benefits, ending privatizations, increasing rent subsidies, and more."
http://www.rense.com/general94/greatest.htm
Everyone wants, " lower taxes, better benefits" and full employment.
OK, sounds good. They want to pay in less and get out,, more. Where do they believe that this money will come from?

[gyre]

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[can't sit still]

No one can accuse the israelis of being subtle. During the protests in Tel Aviv, someone brought out a guillotine.
http://www.roytov.com/articles/guillotine.htm

[can't sit still]

The jews managed to trash the Goldstone report. They managed to gut the U.N. report on the israeli attack on the Turkish ships to aid palestine. Now, they have a new problem. The israelis don't give a shit about the world thinks. The Turks are quite pissed off. They're going to do something about it.
"According to the report, Turkish naval vessels will accompany civilian ships carrying aid to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. "
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... a-1.382305

So, both the Turkish navy and the israeli navy will be escorting the same ships. That could get messy.