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Spam Suggestion

Postby Drawingablank » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:48 am

Having just encountered and reported a metric crap ton of commercial spam or spam bot posts here, it occurs to me that a solution used by several of the other boards I frequent may eliminate most of that (my local Freecycle board is one of them).

The boards I'm referring to require the first two posts by new members to be approved by a moderator before appearing on the boards. Once two posts have been approved, the user can post normally. This completely blocks any spam bots (and likely makes them very obvious), and seems to weed out non bot spammers as well.

I realize that some on this board may not be fond of the idea of someone having to approve their first few posts, but it seems that it would be a small price to pay to combat these spammers. And probably far less work for mods / admins in the long run.
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby AntiM » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:23 am

It appears like we're set up to do such a thing, but it has't been implemented. It would solve a lot of problems on the user end. Yes, it would slow down regular posts a great deal. We'd need more mods.

However, the new spam report icon is wonderful and mods can do a clean up faster than ever. Love it.
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby BBadger » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:10 am

I'd like to see moderators able to delete or suspend accounts too, perhaps only in the context of spammers if people are afraid of stifling discussions. Captchas might help too, but many bots have been able to get around them.

Perhaps just some requirement that new users must post a greeting in the announce yourself forum before being able to start threads and/or 5 posts. Of course that would all require someone making a mod for it, and considering how little interaction the admins have with this board at the moment, it'll take a while.
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Proven spambot solution

Postby capjbadger » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:27 am

I was a forum admin where I worked recently. At the beginning of the year, CAPTCHA was cracked. The only thing that worked to keep the spambots out was a real human verification system.

To register, you had to correctly answer the question: "Type the forth word of this sentence."
Once that was in place, I wasn't banning hundreds of accounts a day. They weren't getting in at all. :)

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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby Trishntek » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:09 am

Is it my imagination? Or is spamming worse than ever before? This is getting ridiculous! If there was some way to ban the author and not going through each post from that same bot.
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby C.f.M. » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:16 am

Trishntek wrote:Is it my imagination? Or is spamming worse than ever before? This is getting ridiculous! If there was some way to ban the author and not going through each post from that same bot.



Wow. Wow, wow, wow. The amount of crap threads (besides the ones asking for tickets) is staggering. I don't understand why they can't be deleted as soon as they pop up. The first page of new posts was a solid 50% Russian and other obvious spam.

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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby FIGJAM » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:16 am

Regionals and events is useless now.
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby Elderberry » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:39 am

Seems like it's getting worse by the day. Word must be getting out that the board is wide open with no spam traps and every bot and their brother are coming over for the party.
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Re: Proven spambot solution

Postby AntiM » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:46 am

capjbadger wrote:I was a forum admin where I worked recently. At the beginning of the year, CAPTCHA was cracked. The only thing that worked to keep the spambots out was a real human verification system.

To register, you had to correctly answer the question: "Type the forth word of this sentence."
Once that was in place, I wasn't banning hundreds of accounts a day. They weren't getting in at all. :)

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This is what we had before the upgrade, now we have captcha. It obviously does not work.
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby AntiM » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:48 am

C.f.M. wrote:
Trishntek wrote:Is it my imagination? Or is spamming worse than ever before? This is getting ridiculous! If there was some way to ban the author and not going through each post from that same bot.



Wow. Wow, wow, wow. The amount of crap threads (besides the ones asking for tickets) is staggering. I don't understand why they can't be deleted as soon as they pop up. The first page of new posts was a solid 50% Russian and other obvious spam.


Personally, I don't want to babysit the board 24/7. I get up in the morning, have a cup of coffee and then delete spam. The other mods do that too when they are on. The board is moderated by humans who sleep now and then.
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby Trishntek » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:59 am

(((((((((((AntiM))))))))))))))
We appreciate all you and the other mods do and we are on your side! This is not a complaint about the mods in general or you in particular. The ADMIN needs to implement some kind of screening process for newcomers,,,,, jus' sayin'
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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby AntiM » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:01 am

I know. Just having a Bad Spam Day. I sent up the bat signal.
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Re: Proven spambot solution

Postby Ugly Dougly » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:58 am

capjbadger wrote:I was a forum admin where I worked recently. At the beginning of the year, CAPTCHA was cracked. The only thing that worked to keep the spambots out was a real human verification system.

To register, you had to correctly answer the question: "Type the forth word of this sentence."
Once that was in place, I wasn't banning hundreds of accounts a day. They weren't getting in at all. :)

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Am I imagining this or did Eplaya once have a function like this?

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Re: Proven spambot solution

Postby AntiM » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:25 am

Ugly Dougly wrote:
capjbadger wrote:I was a forum admin where I worked recently. At the beginning of the year, CAPTCHA was cracked. The only thing that worked to keep the spambots out was a real human verification system.

To register, you had to correctly answer the question: "Type the forth word of this sentence."
Once that was in place, I wasn't banning hundreds of accounts a day. They weren't getting in at all. :)

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Am I imagining this or did Eplaya once have a function like this?


Indeed it did and it worked very well.
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Re: Proven spambot solution

Postby capjbadger » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:31 pm

AntiM wrote:
capjbadger wrote:I was a forum admin where I worked recently. At the beginning of the year, CAPTCHA was cracked. The only thing that worked to keep the spambots out was a real human verification system.

To register, you had to correctly answer the question: "Type the forth word of this sentence."
Once that was in place, I wasn't banning hundreds of accounts a day. They weren't getting in at all. :)

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This is what we had before the upgrade, now we have captcha. It obviously does not work.

Yeah, they cracked it right around new years 2010/2011. I was getting hammered by bots (like eplaya is now) every day until we put in the non-CAPTCHA system.

At least I was able to ban the accounts. Granted they just created new accounts.
It's completely stupid they you are not given the ability to ban obvious spambot accounts. :shock:

You will continue to be hammered with spam posts until you switch away from CAPTCHA. :|

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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby capjbadger » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:38 pm

Ok... this is out of hand. Who is the damn Admin around here that can't be bothered to ban these users and change the registration process?? :evil:

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Re: Spam Suggestion

Postby AntiM » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:40 am

They're aware and have responded, looking for a workable fix.
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