So what else are you doing this August?
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sparkletarte
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So what else are you doing this August?
There's other stuff that you're doing besides BM stuff, right? What is it? Other events, travelling, stuff?
Next weekend I get to dance my booty off for 3 days straight at Shambhala, in the beautiful mountains of the Kootenays in BC. It's normally my summer highlight, but now I have BM too! August rocks! I'm going to what will be a great wedding today, then Shambhala, then a week off, then a 2 day road trip to areas I've never been, on my way to BM, then BM. Fun, fun, fun. And I have 3 weeks of holidays. I love August.
What else are you up to?[/i]
Next weekend I get to dance my booty off for 3 days straight at Shambhala, in the beautiful mountains of the Kootenays in BC. It's normally my summer highlight, but now I have BM too! August rocks! I'm going to what will be a great wedding today, then Shambhala, then a week off, then a 2 day road trip to areas I've never been, on my way to BM, then BM. Fun, fun, fun. And I have 3 weeks of holidays. I love August.
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Well, actually, other than celebrating my birthday on the 11th by going to work, and then cat-sitting for some friends while they go to Gen Con, I am not doing a d---ed thing! Not even Burning Man! I only get one week of vacation, and have already spent a day of it on a job interview..., and I need a new job so I can afford to go to Burning Man in 2005!

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Do things that have never been done."
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Do things that have never been done."
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I'm entering three StickHobs in the Lane County Fair in a couple weeks. I got a black knight's horse, 30"; a 48" Anubis wolf that I'm just finishing up tonight (and which will be appearing in the Opera); and a 36" Sea Dragon that I'm going to get crackin' on come Monday.
I'm entered in the Adult Professional category of the art exhibition so I hold no illusions about winning. I've only been doing these guys for a year and while I took extra long and special care on them, I don't think they'll measure up. Instead, I'm looking to get some buzz happening and get my work before the eyes of the public, and thousands of people will see them; and if I do say so myself, the Knight's Horse is pretty special
I'm entered in the Adult Professional category of the art exhibition so I hold no illusions about winning. I've only been doing these guys for a year and while I took extra long and special care on them, I don't think they'll measure up. Instead, I'm looking to get some buzz happening and get my work before the eyes of the public, and thousands of people will see them; and if I do say so myself, the Knight's Horse is pretty special
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My mind is playing tricks on me: Every time I see "sparkletarte" on an eplaya page it registers "sparkleTARKLE."DVD Burner wrote:sparkletarte still has yet to explain to us Shambhala.
:Help:
Buckethead, Buckethead you are like an Alien
Buckethead, Buckethead your head is like a dish
Buckethead, Buckethead sometimes you wear the Maybelline
Buckethead, Buckethead sometimes you're full of fish
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sparkletarte
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haha, I knew there were other Shambhalites hanging around here! This year Shambhala is a week early, so there will be more of us at BM.
Shambhala is a 3 day party held on a 500 acre family ranch. It's put on by the family. It's in the Kootenays, in south eastern BC, about 2.5 hours north of Spokane. The ranch is surrounded by mountains, and we have a beautiful refreshing river to swim in. The last couple years there's been about 6,000 people there. Camping is on site.
It's mostly dj's that play- this year we'll have a stage for some bands, pulled by a tractor around the property. There are 6 stages, mostly playing house, breaks, funky stuff, some dnb and jungle, trance, and a chill stage. Because the property is privately owned, the stages are worked on all year round, and are permanent structures, getting more amazing every year. The sound is incredible- very loud and clear. All of the stages are set up in clearings in the forest, so you dance with the trees, except the beach stage, located right on the river. There's huge lazers that play in the dust and the forest. This year there will be a hot air balloon to take rides over the party, with a big disco ball hanging underneath it that they'll train the lazers on.
We have excellent local talent in this area, and lots of them play there. Some of this year's imports include Adam Freeland, Freq Nasty, Dave Dub, Lorin (every year!)...there's more (I think there's aout 60), but I don't know the trance and dnb dj's. In the past we've had Krafy Kuts, Soul of Man, Czech, Tipper...uh.... lots more.
Shambhala has the most amazing vibe of any party I've been to. Although you could call Shambhala a rave, it's so much more than that. There are all sorts of people there, all ages. Very friendly, fun party people, really into dancing. It's located about 8 hours from Vancouver, and 6 hours from Calgary, the closest big cities. I live nearby, in a town of about 10,000 people. Most people have to travel quite a distance to get there, so you get the people who are really into being there. Security is good and very low key- you can mostly do what you want there, as long as you are respectful of others.
I'm not sure what else to tell you about it, except that what I've said touches on Shambhala but certainly doesn't cover everything- it's all about the experience. If you are into dancing at a fun outdoor party and within a day's drive (although some people come from across the country!), it's definitely worth checking out. Let me know if you want to know more!
ps- I'm doing this as a Shambhala lover, I don't work there, just so you know.
Shambhala is a 3 day party held on a 500 acre family ranch. It's put on by the family. It's in the Kootenays, in south eastern BC, about 2.5 hours north of Spokane. The ranch is surrounded by mountains, and we have a beautiful refreshing river to swim in. The last couple years there's been about 6,000 people there. Camping is on site.
It's mostly dj's that play- this year we'll have a stage for some bands, pulled by a tractor around the property. There are 6 stages, mostly playing house, breaks, funky stuff, some dnb and jungle, trance, and a chill stage. Because the property is privately owned, the stages are worked on all year round, and are permanent structures, getting more amazing every year. The sound is incredible- very loud and clear. All of the stages are set up in clearings in the forest, so you dance with the trees, except the beach stage, located right on the river. There's huge lazers that play in the dust and the forest. This year there will be a hot air balloon to take rides over the party, with a big disco ball hanging underneath it that they'll train the lazers on.
We have excellent local talent in this area, and lots of them play there. Some of this year's imports include Adam Freeland, Freq Nasty, Dave Dub, Lorin (every year!)...there's more (I think there's aout 60), but I don't know the trance and dnb dj's. In the past we've had Krafy Kuts, Soul of Man, Czech, Tipper...uh.... lots more.
Shambhala has the most amazing vibe of any party I've been to. Although you could call Shambhala a rave, it's so much more than that. There are all sorts of people there, all ages. Very friendly, fun party people, really into dancing. It's located about 8 hours from Vancouver, and 6 hours from Calgary, the closest big cities. I live nearby, in a town of about 10,000 people. Most people have to travel quite a distance to get there, so you get the people who are really into being there. Security is good and very low key- you can mostly do what you want there, as long as you are respectful of others.
I'm not sure what else to tell you about it, except that what I've said touches on Shambhala but certainly doesn't cover everything- it's all about the experience. If you are into dancing at a fun outdoor party and within a day's drive (although some people come from across the country!), it's definitely worth checking out. Let me know if you want to know more!
ps- I'm doing this as a Shambhala lover, I don't work there, just so you know.
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I'm down with that, just don't start calling me sparklefarte.Every time I see "sparkletarte" on an eplaya page it registers "sparkleTARKLE."
another ps- you can find me on the Shambhala board as velvet (which is my name) if you feel like wandering over there.
In 2003 my August was this:
Weekend 1: Move!
Weekend 2: Get Married!
Weekend 3: Drive to Nevada (from East Coast)
Weekend 4: be at burning man
This year it's much easier:
weekend 1: Go to friend's wedding
weekend 2: normal
weekend 3: camping
weekend 4: drive to Nevada (from East coast)
weekend 5: the man burns
Of course there is working extra hours, dealing with my visiting mother, and Burning Man preparations and other things in between the weekends.
Weekend 1: Move!
Weekend 2: Get Married!
Weekend 3: Drive to Nevada (from East Coast)
Weekend 4: be at burning man
This year it's much easier:
weekend 1: Go to friend's wedding
weekend 2: normal
weekend 3: camping
weekend 4: drive to Nevada (from East coast)
weekend 5: the man burns
Of course there is working extra hours, dealing with my visiting mother, and Burning Man preparations and other things in between the weekends.
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Uh, no. Is that where the 'is BM a religion?' thread that I saw came from?you're kidding, right?
Yeah, I just got called spakletarte somewhere else. Hm. Spakletakle? Maybe I ought to head over to the 'best playa names' thread.Every time I see "sparkletarte" on an eplaya page it registers "sparkleTARKLE."
What are they? I'm imagining a horse on a stick going from other things you've posted about the hobs. Can you show us a picture?I'm entering three StickHobs
Anyone else? Anyone? Anyone?
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August:
Drive to Portland and back (twice)
Trips to the airport to pick folks up (twice)
Host lunatics from England (just one)
Work on the book we're writing (in my dreams)
Write a play (continuous)
Wrangle over finances from our house's demise (i don't wanna know)
Continue to work on constructing a street medic team
*sigh* same ol' ordinary BS. slow month
Drive to Portland and back (twice)
Trips to the airport to pick folks up (twice)
Host lunatics from England (just one)
Work on the book we're writing (in my dreams)
Write a play (continuous)
Wrangle over finances from our house's demise (i don't wanna know)
Continue to work on constructing a street medic team
*sigh* same ol' ordinary BS. slow month
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Replacing the bathtub.
Sanding and prepping the bathroom walls.
Replacing select sheetrock around the shower plumbing, bathtub, and the backside of the interior wall holding the plumbing.
Taping then priming the sheetrock.
Painting the bathroom.
Retiling the bathtub/shower area.
Replacing the molding.
MAYBE placing silicon on the hot tub structure roof.
Celebrating my g/f's brithday at the local nude beach.
All other time left over will be spent at the aforementioned nude beach.
Sanding and prepping the bathroom walls.
Replacing select sheetrock around the shower plumbing, bathtub, and the backside of the interior wall holding the plumbing.
Taping then priming the sheetrock.
Painting the bathroom.
Retiling the bathtub/shower area.
Replacing the molding.
MAYBE placing silicon on the hot tub structure roof.
Celebrating my g/f's brithday at the local nude beach.
All other time left over will be spent at the aforementioned nude beach.
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Thanks for clearing that up. Good translators are hard to find ever since the CIA, oh, never mind.AntiM wrote:Buckethead, English is an alien language to you. Mistakes are to be expected, whether you are using a translator or have assimilated the tongue yourself. Your language needs all depend on whether you are striving for fluency, basic communication, academics, or world dominantion.
Buckethead, Buckethead you are like an Alien
Buckethead, Buckethead your head is like a dish
Buckethead, Buckethead sometimes you wear the Maybelline
Buckethead, Buckethead sometimes you're full of fish
Buckethead, Buckethead your head is like a dish
Buckethead, Buckethead sometimes you wear the Maybelline
Buckethead, Buckethead sometimes you're full of fish
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They're stick horses, but if you're imagining those plush-headed thingies for $25 in the stores, forget it. These are functional art, with four legs, tail, in four sizes from 30" to 48" (yes, I make adult-sized ones), the head, pole and haunch are all one piece and that's what I measure off (they're actually longer with the leg extensions) and I do more than horses. Right now I have four templates: Horse, Wolf, Big Cat and Dragon. I can put wings on anything, do them like sea critters (there's a Sea Wolf in my hall right now), and I can mix two types to make something else, like a Wolf-Dragon or a Karkadann or a Kalidah or a Gryphon.sparkletarte wrote:What are they? I'm imagining a horse on a stick going from other things you've posted about the hobs. Can you show us a picture?I'm entering three StickHobs
They cost a little more than the "plush horse head on a stick" jobbies but they're worth it, and considering what they are are extremely reasonable. These guys are quality enough for use in parades and theatrical performances. No two are exactly alike. They're strong enough to last for years and be handed down as family heirlooms and they're not so cutesy that the 5y-o you buy them for now will be embarassed by it when she's 13. My absolute professional wet dream is to have the Eugene Opera commission some from me and use them in a production.
Yes, photos coming up this weekend. Just did a whole little photo session with the Destrier, the Anubis Wolf and my cat Fetelbaum
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Doing too much - almost
I'm pleased to see it's <i>possible</i> to do all this - not that I can imagine it was easy. (Did your new wife go to BM - if so, did it count as a honeymoon?)Icepack wrote:In 2003 my August was this:
Weekend 1: Move!
Weekend 2: Get Married!
Weekend 3: Drive to Nevada (from East Coast)
Weekend 4: be at burning man
Of course there is working extra hours, dealing with my visiting mother, and Burning Man preparations and other things in between the weekends.
I already am experiencing difficulties in doing all <b>my</b> things this year. Not marriage, but finishing up a divorce, buying a house and closing on the very day I start my drive half way across the country to BM, as well as building my playa art project. I guess it doesn't help I often travel at weekends to see my girlfriend, such as last weekend - that eats into my big art project time. Like a lot of others, I also work weekdays too.
Anyway, buying a house is more difficult than I thought, having to walk around/view ok I knew, but making offers, signing, revisiting, negotiations, inspections, and other things, but also the finances are just so much fun! Not only to have to pay for closing and downpayment, but to be all extra vigilant in keeping my finances "<i>perfect</i>" while remembering to put enough aside for the cost of travel (rental and gas costs), my BM supplies, the BM ticket, and buying the art project materials. Quite a juggling act.
Well done <B>Icepack</B> for managing your 2003, there were times when I felt perhaps I should give BM2004 a miss in trying to do <b>too</b> much in August, but you give me hope. Thanks.
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Re: Doing too much - almost
Well, I am the wife, and yes, Burning Man counted as the honeymoon.bdongray wrote:I'm pleased to see it's <i>possible</i> to do all this - not that I can imagine it was easy. (Did your new wife go to BM - if so, did it count as a honeymoon?)Icepack wrote:In 2003 my August was this:
Weekend 1: Move!
Weekend 2: Get Married!
Weekend 3: Drive to Nevada (from East Coast)
Weekend 4: be at burning man
Of course there is working extra hours, dealing with my visiting mother, and Burning Man preparations and other things in between the weekends.
I already am experiencing difficulties in doing all <b>my</b> things this year. Not marriage, but finishing up a divorce, buying a house and closing on the very day I start my drive half way across the country to BM, as well as building my playa art project. I guess it doesn't help I often travel at weekends to see my girlfriend, such as last weekend - that eats into my big art project time. Like a lot of others, I also work weekdays too.
Anyway, buying a house is more difficult than I thought, having to walk around/view ok I knew, but making offers, signing, revisiting, negotiations, inspections, and other things, but also the finances are just so much fun! Not only to have to pay for closing and downpayment, but to be all extra vigilant in keeping my finances "<i>perfect</i>" while remembering to put enough aside for the cost of travel (rental and gas costs), my BM supplies, the BM ticket, and buying the art project materials. Quite a juggling act.
Well done <B>Icepack</B> for managing your 2003, there were times when I felt perhaps I should give BM2004 a miss in trying to do <b>too</b> much in August, but you give me hope. Thanks.
We also detoured to Las Vegas to see Penn & Teller before hitting BM last year. We arrived early at BM and did some setup work with the Rangers. I think we arrived about a week early. The downside was, and it was a pretty big bummer, was that somehow my husband got too much sun or not enough salt or something and he got sick just as the event was officially opening. So we did not last the full week and get to see the Man burn. I think we left on Tuesday. That kind of sucked but it gave us more time to see the sights across the country going home. We stopped in Winnemucca, Nebraska for a few hours, spent a night in Wyoming, and a night in Ohio. We really just relaxed on the way home. If we hadn't arrived early, and had given ourselves more time between the wedding and the trip, I think we would have been better off in terms of enjoying Burning Man. But arriving early was something we hadn't done before and it gave us a chance to see BM from a new perspective. I think having the opportunity to arrive early or stay late and see the city in different stages is really cool. Maybe in the future some day, we'll be able to schedule ourselves to stay late.
I think my years traveling with my ex- built up my endurance a bit to stress and traveling. For short term stuff, I can pretty much tolerate a high level of stress and lack of sleep. As long as I know that by such-and-such a date, life will be back to "normal" I can tolerate the chaos.
Regarding the finances- last year we paid for our move, paid for our wedding, and paid for the honeymoon. Wedding expenses were somewhat off-set by the monetary gifts we got for the occasion, but yes, it was a juggling act. We started in January 2003 (when we announced our engagement) on a budget plan, and paid off all the credit cards and bills by January 2004.
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Re: Doing too much - almost
Well, I am the wife, and yes, Burning Man counted as the honeymoon.bdongray wrote:I'm pleased to see it's <i>possible</i> to do all this - not that I can imagine it was easy. (Did your new wife go to BM - if so, did it count as a honeymoon?)Icepack wrote:In 2003 my August was this:
Weekend 1: Move!
Weekend 2: Get Married!
Weekend 3: Drive to Nevada (from East Coast)
Weekend 4: be at burning man
Of course there is working extra hours, dealing with my visiting mother, and Burning Man preparations and other things in between the weekends.
I already am experiencing difficulties in doing all <b>my</b> things this year. Not marriage, but finishing up a divorce, buying a house and closing on the very day I start my drive half way across the country to BM, as well as building my playa art project. I guess it doesn't help I often travel at weekends to see my girlfriend, such as last weekend - that eats into my big art project time. Like a lot of others, I also work weekdays too.
Anyway, buying a house is more difficult than I thought, having to walk around/view ok I knew, but making offers, signing, revisiting, negotiations, inspections, and other things, but also the finances are just so much fun! Not only to have to pay for closing and downpayment, but to be all extra vigilant in keeping my finances "<i>perfect</i>" while remembering to put enough aside for the cost of travel (rental and gas costs), my BM supplies, the BM ticket, and buying the art project materials. Quite a juggling act.
Well done <B>Icepack</B> for managing your 2003, there were times when I felt perhaps I should give BM2004 a miss in trying to do <b>too</b> much in August, but you give me hope. Thanks.
We also detoured to Las Vegas to see Penn & Teller before hitting BM last year. We arrived early at BM and did some setup work with the Rangers. I think we arrived about a week early. The downside was, and it was a pretty big bummer, was that somehow my husband got too much sun or not enough salt or something and he got sick just as the event was officially opening. So we did not last the full week and get to see the Man burn. I think we left on Tuesday. That kind of sucked but it gave us more time to see the sights across the country going home. We stopped in Winnemucca, Nebraska for a few hours, spent a night in Wyoming, and a night in Ohio. We really just relaxed on the way home. If we hadn't arrived early, and had given ourselves more time between the wedding and the trip, I think we would have been better off in terms of enjoying Burning Man. But arriving early was something we hadn't done before and it gave us a chance to see BM from a new perspective. I think having the opportunity to arrive early or stay late and see the city in different stages is really cool. Maybe in the future some day, we'll be able to schedule ourselves to stay late.
I think my years traveling with my ex- built up my endurance a bit to stress and traveling. For short term stuff, I can pretty much tolerate a high level of stress and lack of sleep. As long as I know that by such-and-such a date, life will be back to "normal" I can tolerate the chaos.
Regarding the finances- last year we paid for our move, paid for our wedding, and paid for the honeymoon. Wedding expenses were somewhat off-set by the monetary gifts we got for the occasion, but yes, it was a juggling act. We started in January 2003 (when we announced our engagement) on a budget plan, and paid off all the credit cards and bills by January 2004.
Icepack
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Re: Doing too much - almost
Nice place "Vegas" - but I am biased, it's co-incidentally is where my girlfriend lives. And the 3 hour flights, check-in, etc, is what I mean by "eats a lot of time".Icepack wrote:Well, I am the wife, and yes, Burning Man counted as the honeymoon.bdongray wrote:... I guess it doesn't help I often travel at weekends to see my girlfriend, such as last weekend - that eats into my big art project time...
We also detoured to Las Vegas to see Penn & Teller before hitting BM last year.
By the way, she's a burner too.
When ever I visit Vegas, I'm frequently reminded me to drink water, as I forget it's actually in the desert, and maybe that's what the problem was? Dehydration is all too easy to get, including when in Vegas.Icepack wrote:We arrived early at BM and did some setup work with the Rangers. I think we arrived about a week early. The downside was, and it was a pretty big bummer, was that somehow my husband got too much sun or not enough salt or something and he got sick just as the event was officially opening. So we did not last the full week and get to see the Man burn. I think we left on Tuesday.... I think having the opportunity to arrive early or stay late and see the city in different stages is really cool. Maybe in the future some day, we'll be able to schedule ourselves to stay late.
I hope this year (as I think you <b>are</b> going) you get the entire week there. I've done Monday-Monday both years I've been, and I will again this year.
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I'm just working a whole lotta overtime and trying to get my transfer completed at my job (on the grounds that my boss is a psycho bitch from hell). Last I heard, my last day working for the psycho bitch would be the 28th, then I'm on vacation (obviously) from the 29th - 9th, and then I start at a new location under a sane boss. It's been incredibly stressfull, so I'm definitely looking forward to hitting the playa even more than usual this year.
"The future is a whore, she promises herself to everyone."
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I'm just working a whole lotta overtime and trying to get my transfer completed at my job (on the grounds that my boss is a psycho bitch from hell). Last I heard, my last day working for the psycho bitch would be the 28th, then I'm on vacation (obviously) from the 29th - 9th, and then I start at a new location under a sane boss. It's been incredibly stressfull, so I'm definitely looking forward to hitting the playa even more than usual this year.
"The future is a whore, she promises herself to everyone."
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