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David's Playa Tips

Post by Orbitald » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:14 am

Here are a bunch of BM tips I put together.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hx ... t?hl=en_US

Playa Tips.

- Arriving: Have a set of playa cloths ready to put on when you turn off the blacktop road onto the dirt road towards the playa. And make sure your goggles and mask are easily accessible as well. One year we were stuck at the front gate for six hours in a dust storm. Its kind of a bummer when your mask and goggles are packed deep in the bowels of your vehicle when you need them.

- Mask: A mask in a necessity. At minimum you need a well fitting painters mask and a respirator is super nice if you have to be out doing anything serious in a dust storm. When traveling ALWAYS take a painters mask with you or at minimum a bandanna or scarf.

~ Painters Mask: http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50117006/P ... _Mask_.jpg

~ Respirator: http://www.rosemania.com/images/Respirator.jpg

- Goggles: A well fitting pair of goggles is essential. Most goggles are manufactured with holes in them to keep them from fogging over. Fogging is a minor problem on the playa but holes are a big problem. You should seal up any and all air holes in your goggles with tape, glue or something so that zero air can get in. And make sure the goggles fit and seal well against your face. If there are any holes you will have a private little dust storm inside your goggles well after the real dust storm has moved on. Sometimes you can find cheap goggles on ebay by searching for "googles" - sometimes it pays to be dyslexic.

- Lights: at night you need lights on your bike (see below) and also a light on your self in case you decided to park your bike and walk around. I use a little flashy light originally use for a dog. Its easy to turn off and on and has a little clip that I can clip to things. I also have a key chain light that I fasten to an elastic band around my wrist. This is super for checking out the porta-potty. Sometimes I keep my flashy light on the elastic band too and you could keep your bike lock key there as well.

- Packing: Plastic bins are great for cloths. Some prefer the low clear bins as you can kinda see what is in there, others prefer the taller Rubbermaid bins. Both are stack-able and for the most part keep the dust out. Inside the bins I often use large clear zippered bags, the type your comforter cover came in. Large Ziploc bags are good too. Ziploc bags are great in general for keeping your stuff organized. You can also find large blue zippered bags at Ikea that are nice and cheap.

- Cameras: I have never brought a DSLR to the playa so maybe someone can pipe in about protecting your camera there. I use a little Olympus waterproof point-n-shoot and keep it in a soft bag inside a Ziploc. Because its waterproof I can dunk it in a bowl of water if it gets too dusty. In general you are supposed to ask people if you want to take a photo of them. If its a wide shot with a bunch of people then that is hard to do but don't be taking photos of naked people without asking. And please ask camp members if you can post their photos on any public site before doing so.

- Traveling: When you leave camp for any reason, even if its just down the street, its always a good idea to take your goggles, mask, and water with you. Really!

- Bag: Bring a bag, backpack, something to put things in as you travel around. I keep water, goggles, a mask, camera, TP and a few other things in my bag. Zippered pockets are good as when wipe out and your bag goes bouncing your stuff will still be in there.

- Smoking: Bring an Altoids tin with you to put your butts in. Smoking herb is illegal in Nevada and you can get busted for smoking it up on the playa. In fact they can bust you in your camp if you are smoking in an easily view area of your camp. If you are in a closed area, like your tent or in the closed lounge then you should be safe. My suggestion is to be quite discrete because they use infrared visioning to snoop on people.

- Porta-potties: Know where the porta-potties are on the playa. In the city they are usually off the main spokes, 3:00, 5:30 and 9:00 about half way into the city Out of the city they are usually located on the 3:00 and 9:00 spokes mid way out to the man and on one side of the temple. And they might be different this year so look at the map and locate them when you arrive. Keeping a little extra TP in a bag tied in your bike basked is not a bad idea.

Health:

- Sun: The sun is bright and hot and many of you will burn really quickly if you don't cover up. But its hot and if you cover up you will over heat. What to do? Bring light colored light weight loose fitting cloths for the day time especially if you are not accustomed to being out in the sun a bunch. One of my favorite daytime playa items is a large silky white scarf. I often bring it with me and wear it as a cape if I'm feeling too exposed. It works perfectly for keeping the direct sun off my shoulders, neck and back without making me too hot. A big hat is good to but if it gets windy you and your hat could end up in the trash fence.

- Cold: It can get cold at night - be prepared.

- Netti Pot: Playa dust plays a number on your nose and using a neti pot twice a day will keep your nose much happier. And no, you cant use mine. You can get a cheap plastic neti pot in Berkeley. Just ask anybody walking down the street. I'm happy to teach you how to use your new neti pot if you need help.

Neti Pot: http://modernvenus.typepad.com/.a/6a00d ... 970b-800wi

- Hands, Feet and Lips: Again, playa dust plays a number on your hands and feet. I bring Cocoa or Shea Butter and massage my hands and feet twice a day. All it takes is a couple of cracks in your foot and you will be a most unhappy camper. I also bring an SPF 15 lip balm.

- Sleeping: I believe quality sleep is THE most important thing for me on the playa. I can burn hard and fast 18 hours a day for six days straight as long as I have 6 hours of good quality sleep. So here are the things I bring in my sleep kit:
~ Ear plugs: good quality well fitting ear plugs
~ Blindfold: I do a lot of sleeping in the day
~ Noise canceling earphones: These are ear buds with active noise canceling circuitry. Phillips SBC HN060 are the ones I have and they work pretty well. These are totally optional.
~ MP3 player with ear buds: I have a small MP3 player with sleep music on it. This usually puts me to sleep in under 5 min which is pretty sweet. The music I have is "Natural Music for Sleep" but you can use what ever works for you, waves, frogs, snoring...
~ Herbal Tinctures: I use Skullcap, Passion Flower, and Blue Vervain but Valerian and Kava Kava are stronger (but may leave you with a slight hang over - like that matters). These herbs are relaxants and help induce sleep.
~ Have water available in your tent. I have a separate water container I keep in my tent and fill it as needed.
~ An extra set or two of earplugs because you just never know.

- Water: Bring something to carry water with you. When ever you go anywhere you should carry water with you - seems obvious but some people forget to bring their water bottles and / or camel backs. And bring two or three water containers because you will need more than you think.

- Toothpicks: I love cinnamon or mint toothpicks - they clean your teeth and freshen your breath all at the same time. Make sure you put the old ones in your little moop bag.

- Take care of yourself. Only you know if you need to take a night off and rest up. Be your own guardian and make sure you are well hydrated, safe from the sun and cold, and getting enough sleep to be happy. If you need help, hugs or someone to listen to you then speak up. At time we all have a hard time and most of us are more than happy to help out if we can.


Taking care of our camp:

~ Wind: Even though our camp is a temporary structure it would be really nice if it stuck around the whole week. Making sure that it does not self destruct or fly away in high winds is a whole camp effort. This means that everyone should be familiar with how to check the all the ropes and tighten them if necessary. If your around camp when the dust and wind pick up then put on your goggles and mask and quickly check the ropes and make sure they are all tight. If there is a problem and you cannot handle it yourself get help from other camp mates or our neighbors. It really doesn't take much for a 20ft x 10ft carport to fly away and if one of them goes then we could loose all of them and that would be a total bummer. If you don't know how to check the ropes then ask someone when you arrive and have them show you. And don't kid yourself about how wonderful the weather is; every humongous storm is preceded by remarkable calmness.

~ Moop ( Matter Out Of Place): Keep the camp clean. You are encouraged to get totally F'ed up and have a huge ass party but when you leave or go to bed everything that could possibly blow away should be nailed down. Leave nothing on the tables, chairs, ground, etc. Pick up everything and find a home for it before you leave home or move away from any potential moopish happening. Its a whole camp responsibility so if you come back to camp and find it a mess then please clean it up. Perpetrators will be summarily dressed in skimpy panties and publicly flogged unless they really really enjoy it.

~ Housekeeping: Don't leave a big mess for others to clean up. Keep track of your shit and pick it up now and then.

~ Chip In: There are a few of us working really hard to make this camp a nice place for everyone to land. If your not one of these people then plan on chipping in during the week because it actually feels good to chip in and help out. And please don't skip out early just to avoid packing up the camp. The more people helping to pack up the easier it is on everyone and there really isn't any rush. Plan on taking your time and sticking around to help pack up. Lets make a party of exodus.

Food:

For the most we will be using milk crates as much as possible to store our kitchen food and mess kits. There is a little room for bins under the tables but that space sparse and bins get stacked and your stuff ends up on the bottom. So try to pack day to day food in milk crates and keep the bins for special group dinner stuff or things you don't use all the time.

So often people bring ripe fruit and it goes off in one day. Or they throw it in a bag and it gets smashed on the way up. Too much fruit in the first two days and so much spoils before we can eat it. And then there is nothing at the end. Fruit / avocados / veggies: Buy green fruit. Things ripen super fast on they playa and if we want anything yummy towards then end then it better be rock hard and green when you bring it on Monday. Find a box that fits in a milk crate and put bubble wrap or something soft in the bottom. Put the fruit in there and make sure it isn't smashed buy the lid. If you have extra fruit or food please let people know they can eat it. Perhaps we should have a "Eat Me" shelf where we can put food we want to share.

Shower:

Our shower has a tiny evaporation pond so we ask that you bring an extra thick beach towel to place on the floor of the shower pallet so that your shower water is absorbed by the towel. Then hang your towel on the cloths line with the hand spring clamps to dry. This keeps all the shower water out of the evap. pond and your towel will be soon be dry. Using the method we have been able to take showers the day of exodus.

Bikes:

- Lights: You should have a rear light in addition to any other decorative lights you may have. Lights are SUPER important on the playa at night and even a minor collision could cost you an enormous amount of grief (hurt or you bike hurt). And bring spare batteries. And a spare light is nice too. Glow sticks are not lights and after a few hours most of them are too dim to help.

- Bell: You need a bell or noise maker on your bike. I cant tell you how many times a bell has saved my life - its essential equipment. Squeaky dog toys work well too.

- Basket: A basket or rack is almost essential and at minimum really really important. You can use the standard hand held grocery shopping basket strapped to you handle bars or to a rear rack. We will need to stock up on ice every now and then and baskets are great for ice runs plus its much easier putting your water and stuff in your basket when you riding to the other end of the world.

- Moop Bag. You should have a small sturdy moop bag on your bike for those small pieces of stuff you need to stash. And nope, you cant use mine ;-)

- Kick Stand: being able to use a kick stand makes life much easier. If you need to lay your bike down every where you go it becomes a pain in the ass plus it takes up a bunch or room. Using a kick stand also keeps people from tripping over your bike, hurting themselves, and putting a boot through your spokes. I find the kickstands that mount on the rear of the bike a bit better than the ones that mount in the middle but taping something on the end of your kickstand to give it a bigger footprint helps keep your bike up in soft areas. Also learn which way to turn your front wheel to make your bike more stable. Turning one way is good, the other way and it spins around and falls down.

- Lock: Locking your bike keeps people from steeling it and it gives you piece of mind. A simple chain inside an old inner tube is cheap with a easy to use with an easy to read cable combo lock. Don't use one of the combo locks you used on your high-school gym locker - they take too long. Or some of the 99 stores sell really cheap combo chain locks, or use your U lock. Something is better than nothing. I often use a carabiner on a chain with an old lock - its not really locked but people think it is.

Combo Lock: http://cycles4udirect.co.uk/images/Lock ... racket.JPG

- Cable: A small steel cable, the kind you use to lock the front wheel of your bike in the city, is nice to have as well. If your hot and want to leave your totally famous coat at your bike you can loop the cable through the coat arms and lock it to you bike. Again, peace of mind.

- Something to keep your famous pants out of the gears: Bike stores sell those velcro pants keepers or get / make something like that to keep your pants from getting caught in the gears / chain. Or a chain guard.

- Oil - oiling your chain makes life much more pleasant after a couple of days in the dust.

- Bungees: a couple of bungees are nice to strap stuff to you bike.

Car: Depending on your vehicle your care may be suffering after a week of dust storms. I like to bring an extra new air filter and install it after I hit the blacktop on the way out. My car thanks me every time.

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Post by NellieX » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:06 pm

This is awesome, thanks for sharing!

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Post by trilobyte » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:28 pm

Great list! a couple additions/addendums to offer...

In lieue of a painter's mask or respirator, a bandana also works pretty well.

Goggles - spot on regarding the holes. Military surplus goggles (which are made for desert/sandstorm environments) and sand-boarding goggles have no holes.

In the bin department, I highly recommend the flip-top bins. If you get one with a detachable lid, you may find yourself chasing it down the street.

Netti pot - as an alternative, you may also want to consider just getting a bottle of generic saline solution nasal spray. Not the medicated stuff, but that uber-cheapo store brand bottle. Easy to carry with you in your pack, use as needed.

Hands & Feet - PLAYA FOOT SALAD!!!! Get a jug of white vinegar, and a bottle of olive oil. Soak a washcloth in the vinegar, then wash your hands and feet. Next, massage the hands and feet with olive oil. The vinegar counters the alkali in the playa dust, and the olive oil balances it all out (and feels really good. Your hands and feet will smell like a salad for a few minutes, but they'll be well cared for on the playa.

Also... Electralytes and supplements! Because it's a high altitude desert with anything from a gentle breeze to strong winds, your sweat will mostly evaporate as quickly as you sweat. So you're losing more electralytes than you think. If you don't replenish your electralytes, you'll feel exhausted and lacking energy (even after rest), and your mood will suffer (and who wants to be cranky?). Pedialyte/pediacare comes in three flavors, get a big bottle. Or, stock up on Emergen-C. Or, drink plenty of Gatorade. Or, something else. Another mood/energy supplement to consider, 5-HTP. Sold in health/vitamin joints like GNC, some folks take them to speed their recovery from mood-enhancing party drugs that drain their seratonin levels. 5-HTP is a completely normal/natural/legal supplement, and can help you maintain your energy levels and cheerful disposition. Some folks get really edgy by the middle of the week, it's usually because their body needs one of these two things.

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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by dragonpilot » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:57 pm

In lieu of a bandanna, get a Middle Eastern shemagh (head wrap)...a billion or so Arabs can't be wrong!

Compass! Just a little crappy one. When in the deep playa during a white out, just walk/ride the opposite of North (180 degrees) and you'll eventually run into the Esplanade...from there it's all recognizable landmarks back to yer camp.
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Post by Elderberry » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:08 pm

Wouldn't that be south??? :D
dragonpilot wrote:In lieu of a bandanna, get a Middle Eastern shemagh (head wrap)...a billion or so Arabs can't be wrong!

Compass! Just a little crappy one. When in the deep playa during a white out, just walk/ride the opposite of North (180 degrees) and you'll eventually run into the Esplanade...from there it's all recognizable landmarks back to yer camp.
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by TwoHott » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:03 pm

Nice work David.

Yea, that would be south on the compass. I glued a small key chain compass to my bike. Came in handy during a massive white-out once.

One more tip for neewbies -- have a contingency plan for needing to pee if you are stuck in a two mile / three hour traffic jam. Remember, traffic jams of four hours happen all the time.

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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by daft » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:45 pm

I carry an empty gatorade bottle for when I gotta go. Use it as well around camp as well to save a couple of trips to the portables.

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Post by Canoe » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:52 am

dragonpilot wrote:In lieu of a bandanna, get a Middle Eastern shemagh (head wrap)...a billion or so Arabs can't be wrong!
Compass! Just a little crappy one. When in the deep playa during a white out, just walk/ride the opposite of North (180 degrees) and you'll eventually run into the Esplanade...from there it's all recognizable landmarks back to yer camp.
Ditto on bandanna - works much better than painter's mask, which is hard to keep sealed in wind (and out of wind). Surgical style mask works better, but bandanna still works better, and it's easy too. A wet bandanna works even better.
I got one of the full face mask respirator types for $150 with extra filters. Useless with the glasses - couldn't seal to my face. Also, the standard "pink" dust mask doesn't filter fine enough to filter playa dust, which passes through. You need the HEPA filter for playa dust.

Ditto on the shemagh! Great!
Quick, easy, and surprisingly cool.
And you get to pick a colour, or have many.

p.s. Clean your goggles or you may think the dust storm is going on longer than it is... ;)

Compass.
If you are far out out on the playa enough, South could have you miss camp and you end up on the fence on the South. Much longer walk than necessary.
Learn to read South West on the compass, or preferably have some idea of where you are and choose the most appropriate of South, South West or North West so you end up close to the part of Esplanade that you want.
If you're not used to navigating with a compass when you can't see where you are, remember that if you don't check the compass very frequently, you usually end up wandering in circles.
And, walking around when you can't see anything is against the general recommendation of sit tight until you can see. That said, I carry a compass so I have that option.

Keep in mind that although you can't see far along the playa, you can often see up much better as the dust thins. On the playa this can help by seeing the tops of the street lamp poles, the man and even art work. If you're driving an art car, remember that you're elevated and although you may be able to see 100' at your height, those walking may have visibility of only 20', and they're stuck in place and if you drive (you're not supposed to) you can be running them over. :( :cry:
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Post by AQUARIUSatBRC420 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:11 pm

I was wondering about that whole getting lost in a dust storm thing. I have been in the mountains when clouds or snow reduce visibility and I could see that one could become hopelessly lost in a serious dust storm if no contingency plan was in place. Compass is a great idea. GPS would be good too if you happen to have one. Especially if you wanna check out a piece of art at night. Set a waypoint and locate it again later. Or for someone that doesn't have experience with a compass and doesn't want to spend $200+ on a GPS, there are cheap and simple GPS units made for geocaching that are $60-70 and can be found at REI.
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Post by oneeyeddick » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:11 am

Forget the compass, waste of time.

Stop and close your eyes, slowly rotate around until you have oonz-oonz perfectly balanced, in stereo, coming into your ears from both the 2 and 10 O'clock areas.

You are now facing Center camp!

Good job!


Unless, of course, if you are deaf.... then you should bring a compass





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Post by Nymue » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:29 pm

Orbitald wrote:. Pick up everything and find a home for it before you leave home or move away from any potential moopish happening. Its a whole camp responsibility so if you come back to camp and find it a mess then please clean it up.Perpetrators will be summarily dressed in skimpy panties and publicly flogged unless they really really enjoy it.
Aw man, until you added in that last caveat, I was totally ready to become a complete camp slob, even though I'm generally neat and tidy to the point of near borderline OCD.
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Post by snake » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:55 pm

put a pee jug with lid in your tent so you don't have to make a middle of the night or early morning pee run. dump right after you wake up...do not let it ferment into the hot day.

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Post by Savannah » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:01 pm

The best pee jug is a laundry detergent container. It's large, no one will mistake it for a drinkable, and if you're shy, it's not quite as obvious what it is when you're carrying it to the biffies to empty it.

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Post by swampdog » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:46 pm

re: respirator - last year I got a full on respirator but found it so heavy, hot, and uncomfortable that I never wore it. This year I'm splurging on one of these

For backup, I also ordered a whole box of 10 3M N95 masks at Amazon for $15 (N95 is a particulate filtering standard). Last year I had one of these (that I wore instead of the respirator) and it was comfortable and effective.

re: pee jug - don't ignore the part where he says "WITH A LID". A SEALABLE lid. Target sells (or used to sell) snacky things like pretzels in plastic containers with big openings that the ladies seem to love. Gatorade bottle works for me.

I'm going moderately high $ this year on things that just haven't been workin' for me before - the face mask, some fancy goggles, and a carry-bag (which calls itself a 'tactical messenger bag' and was all macho n stuff until I decorated it). Let me know if you're interested in more info.

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Post by Sic Pup » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:26 pm

My oldest daughter gave me a Respro as a gift. Looks pretty neat (figuratively and literally) can't comment on it's efficacy as yet but supposedly it's de rigueur with bicycle messengers. I also got a stack of the cheapos as backup.

I'm going with a fabric softner container, smells better (although it's not like Ill be hufifng it or anything). It's also helpful traveling cross country when you just want to pull off at an exit and right back on without being so rude as to leave DNA behind (LNT begins at home). I'm a fanatic about hydration leading up to the event and we all know what goes in......
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Post by Canoe » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:46 pm

swampdog wrote:... I also ordered a whole box of 10 3M N95 masks at Amazon for $15 (N95 is a particulate filtering standard). Last year I had one of these (that I wore instead of the respirator) and it was comfortable and effective...
Last year one of the doctors was laughing at someone walking by with a respirator. She explained that the pink filters were just particle filters and did not filter the fine playa dust which required HEPA filters. I can't remember if she said that the pink particle filters were only good to 3 micron or that the playa dust was 3 micron (I think she said filter good to 5 micron, playa dust is under 3 micron). She was clear that the only one that will filter playa dust is HEPA filters. Don't know what the specs of the N95 is, as far as what percentage filtered of what size particles. That said, a bandana or a wet bandana works just fine for me, and very convenient. The surgical mask type don't work well for me, but then I have a beard so getting a meaningful seal is difficult.
swampdog wrote:... This year I'm splurging on one of these ...
That "Respro Techno mask combines the Sportsta mask's Hepa-Type filtration for sub-micron pollutants" looks interesting.
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Post by swampdog » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:56 am

Interesting. Wikipedia say N95 means it "filters 95% of airborne particulates" which probably isn't going to get the teeny stuff.

I received the Respro mask yesterday and although I got a large I am struggling to make it comfortably fit my big head and big nose. I think I'm going to need to build an extender strap to make it fit.

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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by Raymaker » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:49 am

so a Organic Vapour/Particulate Respirator which is a valved filtering half mask to protect against gases or gases and particles should be good right?

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Post by Canoe » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:32 am

Raymaker wrote:so a Organic Vapour/Particulate Respirator which is a valved filtering half mask to protect against gases or gases and particles should be good right?
Organic Vapour filter is for Vapour.
Particulate filter typically filters a % of particles over a given size, typically 5 micron. Mine with the pink (particle) filters worked alright for me, but with the full face mask with the dual zones (mouth, eyes) I couldn't wear my glasses as it broke the seal between the mask and my face. I found a bandana worked just as well, and was a lot more convenient, and I could splash it with water when it seemed dust was getting through or to up the humidity I was breathing. A wet bandana over the filter containers (filter within rectangular hard plastic case; round uncovered filters available) worked like a wet bandana, but was a pain to do.
Search "3M Full Facepieces 6000 Series Reusable"
or try
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... RH7CD92Ngl
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... RH7CD92Ngl

p.s. they're hot to wear

If you have a medical requirement to filter the dust, as per the doctor's comments, I'd suggest you get a mask for which you can use HEPA filters.
Which is why that Respro mask claiming to filter submicron particles looked interesting. I didn't check to see what percentage of what size particles it filtered. Filtering 1% of submicron isn't much good. Filtering 100% of 2 micron and above would be.
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by FIGJAM » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:36 am

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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by NutmegBasil » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:18 pm

I would like to add, for any noobie, Take you'r stuff (camel back, water, sunblock, chapstick) with you every time. Even if your just going to the potty. You never know where you will end up.
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by yurtgirl » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Canoe wrote:
swampdog wrote:... I also ordered a whole box of 10 3M N95 masks at Amazon for $15 (N95 is a particulate filtering standard). Last year I had one of these (that I wore instead of the respirator) and it was comfortable and effective...
Last year one of the doctors was laughing at someone walking by with a respirator. She explained that the pink filters were just particle filters and did not filter the fine playa dust which required HEPA filters. I can't remember if she said that the pink particle filters were only good to 3 micron or that the playa dust was 3 micron (I think she said filter good to 5 micron, playa dust is under 3 micron). She was clear that the only one that will filter playa dust is HEPA filters. Don't know what the specs of the N95 is, as far as what percentage filtered of what size particles. That said, a bandana or a wet bandana works just fine for me, and very convenient. The surgical mask type don't work well for me, but then I have a beard so getting a meaningful seal is difficult.

I'm a nurse and i had to get fitted for the N95 mask today at work. I couldn't imagine wearing that on the playa. while it is tight fitting, I got tired of breathing my own air. Maybe I needed a breath mint, but the longer I had it on the worse it felt. All I could think about while doing the fit test was "Glad I have one of those desert scarves I got at the military surplus store". When I do have to wear them at work its usually for a few short minutes that I can handle. I sure wouldn't want to keep it on for much longer than that.
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by Canoe » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:52 pm

yurtgirl wrote:I'm a nurse and i had to get fitted for the N95 mask today at work. I couldn't imagine wearing that on the playa. while it is tight fitting, I got tired of breathing my own air. Maybe I needed a breath mint, but the longer I had it on the worse it felt. All I could think about while doing the fit test was "Glad I have one of those desert scarves I got at the military surplus store". When I do have to wear them at work its usually for a few short minutes that I can handle. I sure wouldn't want to keep it on for much longer than that.
Did they give you any specs on what micron it filters to and what percentage?
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by yurtgirl » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:00 pm

I searched the model number online , the 1860s, and found this

" Intended to help reduce wearer exposure to airborne particles in a size range of 0.1 to > 10.0 microns generated during these procedures."
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by Canoe » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:33 am

yurtgirl wrote:I searched the model number online , the 1860s, and found this

" Intended to help reduce wearer exposure to airborne particles in a size range of 0.1 to > 10.0 microns generated during these procedures."
"help reduce"
nice wording they use
could be reduced by 75%, 20% or 1% at the sub 3 micron playa dust
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Re: David's Playa Tips

Post by Igneouss » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:16 pm

respirator shmespirator...

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