Have you tried talking to them about it? Jim Bowers and his crew seem like pretty upstanding people.. I'm betting they would happily make it right...MyDearFriend wrote:But I had a similar experience with the One Mile Clock peoplethough I did not push too hard, because, I still think they are awesome.
Top Asshats of 2011 Burning Man
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Savannah wrote:It sounds freaky & wrong, so you need to do it.
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Re: Top Asshats of 2011 Burning Man
i guess it's time to start a Top Asshats on eplaya thread...
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Re: Top Asshats of 2011 Burning Man
It's not assurance people need, it's just a commitment from the organisers to do what they say they are going to do. If things screw up, just communicate the fact, everyone is forgiving, even in the real world if they are kept informed.junglesmacks wrote:As someone that's about to start a Kickstarter campaign for a new, non-BRC related project.. these sentiments are worrisome and have been echoed by a few. I'm wondering what would be the best way to offer insurance/reassurance to people that they will indeed get what they contribute to..
Hmmm..
For BM simple solution, pick a place, day, time, tell everyone to pickup their stuff then (it could be two different times of the day on two days), it doesn't have to be a particular person either, if the place is a bar you ask at the bar. If you can't make it then it is down to you. You can also announce that your happy to send after the event, just tell those who didn't or couldn't pickup to send their addresses, pre-calculate an average postage cost, everyone's covered.
I must add, although I moaned about a particular aspect, the main award that was a meal for two, and although completely chaotic, was much fun, but partly because it was a wonderful surprise for the person I took. I understand that some people may think my moan is/was petty, but really silly little things like this do stick in your head after the event, however much you try to shrug them off, and this may have something to do with 'mild clinical depression' I have. However, in my 53 years I am also well aware now, that 'cool dudes' who are rude and obnoxious and the first to accuse people of being petty, are in fact not cool at all.
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Raymaker wrote:Simple solution, pick a place, day, time, tell everyone to pickup their stuff then (it could be two different times of the day on two days), it doesn't have to be a particular person either, if the place is a bar you ask at the bar. If you can't make it then it is down to you. You can also announce that your happy to send after the event, just tell those who didn't or couldn't pickup to send their addresses, pre-calculate an average postage cost, everyone's covered.junglesmacks wrote:As someone that's about to start a Kickstarter campaign for a new, non-BRC related project.. these sentiments are worrisome and have been echoed by a few. I'm wondering what would be the best way to offer insurance/reassurance to people that they will indeed get what they contribute to..
Hmmm..
Mm.. don't know if that will work in my case. My Kickstarter will be completed way in advance of next years burn, in plenty of time to get everyone that wants a killer LED light suit like mine to have one.. stay tuned..
Savannah wrote:It sounds freaky & wrong, so you need to do it.
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That was too fast a reply, I added a paragraph after i reread it was non-BRC related 
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that thread would be so long it would risk crashing the server!Simon of the Playa wrote:i guess it's time to start a Top Asshats on eplaya thread...
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And getting locked down pretty damn fast.Irreverent Moniker wrote:that thread would be so long it would risk crashing the server!Simon of the Playa wrote:i guess it's time to start a Top Asshats on eplaya thread...
I love a snarky reply as much as the next person (hell, I do them as much as the next person) but am getting a little tired of the decompression attack posts. Use your damn "foe" button and end it.
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Sigh...alright, I'll field this one.bunny-boiler wrote:
-the narc dressed like DPW who asked for a cigarette, then asked if i had anything else to smoke. later saw her busting up a camp with LEOs and BRC rangers.
-the BRC rangers assisting LEOs in camp raids... "We are not cops!" yeah, right.
...SNIP
First, Rangers don't "bust up camps." What Rangers DO do is accompany law enforcement upon their request, or more often the request of community members, if they are conducting an operation that's likely to cause distress, particularly among those not directly involved with the LEO (campmates, neighbors, etc) Rangers are there to also serve in an observational capacity, logging LE interactions via LEAL.
Finally, there are occasions where people are being evicted from BRC under the auspices of the Rangers for violating some of the fundamentals of the social contract. These are few and far between, but they do occur. In such cases, often LEO accompanies the Rangers, not vice versa. They are simply there in case the person doesn't respond to the kind but firm direction to pack up and go.
Rangers had a pretty high bonk rate this year, and the ability for a LEO to go through Ranger training exists...but...why? Why would they waste 15+ hours just to TRY to qualify, then actually walk around in a Ranger uniform? While on duty, it'd be very difficult for a mock Ranger to radio or otherwise communicate with their LEO teammates to vector in people, as event radios aren't programmed to the cop channels except for 911 dispatch.
A much better time would be spent simply walking around undercover.
It never fails to amaze me how people will fill in the details of an event all on their own.
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Eric wrote:And getting locked down pretty damn fast.Irreverent Moniker wrote:that thread would be so long it would risk crashing the server!Simon of the Playa wrote:i guess it's time to start a Top Asshats on eplaya thread...
I love a snarky reply as much as the next person (hell, I do them as much as the next person) but am getting a little tired of the decompression attack posts. Use your damn "foe" button and end it.
it would help if they sent some xanax with the tickets instead of that stupid fucking fireball...
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Roberto Dobbisano wrote:it would help if they sent some xanax with the tickets instead of that stupid fucking fireball...
I will not argue with that statement.
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I didn't go this year.
Does that mean I have to miss out on being upset?
Does that mean I have to miss out on being upset?
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No, Dougly, the wonder of the modern age is that you can be upset by all sorts of impertinent things.Ugly Dougly wrote:I didn't go this year.
Does that mean I have to miss out on being upset?
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Did it have a lid?MyDearFriend wrote: The Dusty Swan coughed up Grai's mug instantly! Nice folks.
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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SHUT UP ERIC!!!Eric wrote:And getting locked down pretty damn fast.Irreverent Moniker wrote:that thread would be so long it would risk crashing the server!Simon of the Playa wrote:i guess it's time to start a Top Asshats on eplaya thread...
I love a snarky reply as much as the next person (hell, I do them as much as the next person) but am getting a little tired of the decompression attack posts. Use your damn "foe" button and end it.
You mustache wearing ginger kid!
Geeze, I'm so sorry I said that, I'm just so stressed out try to decompress and all that.
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Apparently you still don't get it[b]tiredofbeingnice[/b] wrote:It would be ironic if I was upset i guess.... but i was just suggesting you stay home so that you can avoid the emotional stress you get from being around people who are unlike you on the playa. Oh and i called your complaints assinine, which you didnt like.
Excuse me Ma'am, your going to feel a small prick.
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fishy made me laugh with ha ha.
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>implying that eplaya is still relevant.Irreverent Moniker wrote:that thread would be so long it would risk crashing the server!
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The funniest part of it all I think is the attempted cleverness and air of superiority among other things.. all which fail pretty miserably along with coherent reasoning, grammatical skills and general intelligence.Sail Man wrote:Apparently you still don't get it[b]tiredofbeingnice[/b] wrote:It would be ironic if I was upset i guess.... but i was just suggesting you stay home so that you can avoid the emotional stress you get from being around people who are unlike you on the playa. Oh and i called your complaints assinine, which you didnt like.
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don't put yourself out, honey.Lord Of Ruin wrote: Sigh...alright, I'll field this one.
i remember believing that, too. it's like we're family to be. look me up on the other side- kiss/kiss!First, Rangers don't "bust up camps."
you're too cute, etc.What Rangers DO do is accompany law enforcement upon their request.. etc
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think that bunny-boiler is the type of person who just attracts asshats? We've had at least one in our camp over the years.
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It appears to me that his hat might be what's attracting them. Just look under it! 
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If I wanted to be less conspicuous and gain more confidence from the participants of this event, then the best undercover position would be as a Ranger. I'm not talking about just looking like a Ranger, I'm talking about being on duty as an undercover LEO and working Ranger shifts simultaneously. It would be very easy to carry two radios, or just reprogramme the LEO issued radio to also use the Ranger's freqs.Lord Of Ruin wrote:Rangers had a pretty high bonk rate this year, and the ability for a LEO to go through Ranger training exists...but...why? Why would they waste 15+ hours just to TRY to qualify, then actually walk around in a Ranger uniform? While on duty, it'd be very difficult for a mock Ranger to radio or otherwise communicate with their LEO teammates to vector in people, as event radios aren't programmed to the cop channels except for 911 dispatch.
A much better time would be spent simply walking around undercover.
So if you were assisting the LEOs as an observer, a more favourable version of what happened could be reported.
I'm also not saying this did happen, only that it would be easy to do.
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I also seriously doubt that it would take "15+ hours of training to even TRY" to do anything. All it would take is a simple phone call.
Savannah wrote:It sounds freaky & wrong, so you need to do it.
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Birds of a feather, I'd say.
Dr. Pyro wrote:Is it just me, or does anyone else think that bunny-boiler is the type of person who just attracts asshats? We've had at least one in our camp over the years.
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My question is: Is "tiredofbeingnice" his alter-ego?jkisha wrote:Birds of a feather, I'd say.
Dr. Pyro wrote:Is it just me, or does anyone else think that bunny-boiler is the type of person who just attracts asshats? We've had at least one in our camp over the years.
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who's then?theCryptofishist wrote:My question is: Is "tiredofbeingnice" his alter-ego?jkisha wrote:Birds of a feather, I'd say.
Dr. Pyro wrote:Is it just me, or does anyone else think that bunny-boiler is the type of person who just attracts asshats? We've had at least one in our camp over the years.
Excuse me Ma'am, your going to feel a small prick.
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OK, now I'm getting confused. 
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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"the asshats are taking over the asylum"jkisha wrote:OK, now I'm getting confused.
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I disagree... As an admitted asshat who is not in recovery, they would have informed me of their plans or else they'd be fucking asshats..
oh...
Well shit...
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Well shit...
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