Funny you should mention... 7:30 and Espy... Crawdad feed... BRFQ. Which just happened to be where they picked up those little crusty crawdad parts... funny how the 2 intermingled. Hmmm... maybe the the idea to do Pesce du Cray should go away... either figure out a moop plan for this, or DON'T FUCKING DO IT!!!junglesmacks wrote:See the asshats thread. Im assuming the crawfish came from gumbo which came from the Black Rock French Quarter.
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It's sort of funny trying to pronounce your signature in Russian! LOL (and my rudimentary knowledge of the language makes it even funnier, I'm sure.)
Bay Bridge Sue wrote:Funny you should mention... 7:30 and Espy... Crawdad feed... BRFQ. Which just happened to be where they picked up those little crusty crawdad parts... funny how the 2 intermingled. Hmmm... maybe the the idea to do Pesce du Cray should go away... either figure out a moop plan for this, or DON'T FUCKING DO IT!!!junglesmacks wrote:See the asshats thread. Im assuming the crawfish came from gumbo which came from the Black Rock French Quarter.
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Is something like...jkisha wrote:It's sort of funny trying to pronounce your signature in Russian! LOL (and my rudimentary knowledge of the language makes it even funnier, I'm sure.)
SHEH RTSTIY "TS" IYI "GTSLAG"!
DRFKILIRTIKD TOOF DVANATSET
SHEH AYAHEH SHAT·SNIYIG UFTS!
Should to read... something of similar to...
Мы ставим "У" в "ГУЛАГ"
Апокилиптика 2012
Мы наблюдаем за вами.
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in all honesty Bob, and all snarkiness aside, i think mutual respect would go a long way...maybe trade places....let the Large Sound Camp Leaders do the DPW line sweeps (see burning Blog, the "Dirty Thirty") and have DPW sit in on the unload, set-up, rigging, engineering, security etc etc that the LSC's do (i'm sure some already do, as alot of large heavy equipment is shared along the ten o'clock side) and i think they would realize that they are quite similar...it takes ALOT of fucking work to set up a proper stage, sound rig, lighting, aerialist rig and so on, just as it takes herculean dedication to be a member of DPW...both tend to really love what they do also, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it, voluntarily, in the worst of conditions (esp. applicable for sound camps and their equipment)...yes, some respect, earned only of course, but i think the bullshit "ART FAGS vs. SPARKLEPONIES" needs to end...there is alot of crossover demographics going on whether we want to admit it or not.
and besides, some of my best friends are "Sparkle Ponies", as well as some are "The ones who wear black"..
can't we all find some way to get along?
and besides, some of my best friends are "Sparkle Ponies", as well as some are "The ones who wear black"..
can't we all find some way to get along?
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I meant to type, "Shouldn't their promoters get as much DPW love as the builders of big art?"
And I'm at least half-serious. Rave camps sell tickets. Temples sell tickets, and believe me, art moop is four orders of magnitude more ponderous than theme camp moop. DPW picks up after everyone, indiscriminately, and ensures that you can buy a ticket the following year. Win-win-win. Life goes on.
Call me cynical, but the moop maps remind me of the Keep America Beautiful campaign wrt the interstate highway system. The Wikipedia says it was founded in 1953. How's that working out?
How about moop credits, like carbon credits? Then you could paint the whole place green, or at least chartreuse.
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And I'm at least half-serious. Rave camps sell tickets. Temples sell tickets, and believe me, art moop is four orders of magnitude more ponderous than theme camp moop. DPW picks up after everyone, indiscriminately, and ensures that you can buy a ticket the following year. Win-win-win. Life goes on.
Call me cynical, but the moop maps remind me of the Keep America Beautiful campaign wrt the interstate highway system. The Wikipedia says it was founded in 1953. How's that working out?
How about moop credits, like carbon credits? Then you could paint the whole place green, or at least chartreuse.
<cue weeping "Indian">
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.dp.
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Lots of things worked in the 1950's that could never work in today's world.
Bob wrote:I meant to type, "Shouldn't their promoters get as much DPW love as the builders of big art?"
And I'm at least half-serious. Rave camps sell tickets. Temples sell tickets, and believe me, art moop is four orders of magnitude more ponderous than theme camp moop. DPW picks up after everyone, indiscriminately, and ensures that you can buy a ticket the following year. Win-win-win. Life goes on.
Call me cynical, but the moop maps remind me of the Keep America Beautiful campaign wrt the interstate highway system. The Wikipedia says it was founded in 1953. How's that working out?
How about moop credits, like carbon credits? Then you could paint the whole place green.
<cue weeping "Indian">
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seems easy enough to require big sound camps contribute a playa restoration representative as a condition of placement?
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yes, first born, and half of all beatport royalties too while we're at it.
i like bob's idea....just straight up bribing the DPW with bags of cash is way things should be done....fuck it, to hell with decommidification, the events over at that point.
then maybe they could buy them some new boots.
i like bob's idea....just straight up bribing the DPW with bags of cash is way things should be done....fuck it, to hell with decommidification, the events over at that point.
then maybe they could buy them some new boots.
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Isn't that what they are trying to do now with the "Dirty Thirty"?
(Though only five seemed to bother to send representatives.)
(Though only five seemed to bother to send representatives.)
robrob wrote:seems easy enough to require big sound camps contribute a playa restoration representative as a condition of placement?
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DEAR TEMPLE OF BOOM,
PLEASE FED-EX $10,000 in unmarked TWENTIES, and 100 cases of Jameson's, and a Big Eight
and all will be forgiven.
Love, and Hate.
The DPW Ghetto.
PLEASE FED-EX $10,000 in unmarked TWENTIES, and 100 cases of Jameson's, and a Big Eight
Love, and Hate.
The DPW Ghetto.
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It's gonna take a fuckload more than just an eight.
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Thirty more people, yeah, I read about that.
Thirty more beds in Bruno's trailer park, thirty more seats at Bruno's commissary. Thirty more personnel files, thirty more Welcome Home interviews, thirty more background checks, thirty more company manuals, thirty more IRS filings, thirty more sets of PPE, thirty more Go The Fuck Home interviews.
Thirty more beds in Bruno's trailer park, thirty more seats at Bruno's commissary. Thirty more personnel files, thirty more Welcome Home interviews, thirty more background checks, thirty more company manuals, thirty more IRS filings, thirty more sets of PPE, thirty more Go The Fuck Home interviews.
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If it wasn't for the evil encroachment of Defaultia, I would MOST CERTAINLY be out there doing sweeps... I wish I could have this year, and had I known about this "30" project, I might well have worked something out. AFAIK we never got the word, never heard... but hopefully next year our camp can change that, now that we know about it.
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junglesmacks wrote:It's gonna take a fuckload more than just an eight.
Is 4 shots enuff? no foo-foo drinks; just naked Espresso
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I'll go back if they let me drive the Steiger.


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junglesmacks wrote:It's gonna take a fuckload more than just an eight.

Savannah wrote:It sounds freaky & wrong, so you need to do it.
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On the way out Tuesday morning before sunrise we did see a fleet of 30 yard side dumpers headed from Gerlach toward the entrance....
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Aug 11 placement announcement.
BBSue wrote:If it wasn't for the evil encroachment of Defaultia, I would MOST CERTAINLY be out there doing sweeps... I wish I could have this year, and had I known about this "30" project, I might well have worked something out. AFAIK we never got the word, never heard... but hopefully next year our camp can change that, now that we know about it.
I would have been there if my house had not been forclosed on whilst I was in BRC.Placement Announce wrote:"Does the end of Burning Man come too soon for you? Here's a very special invitation to come back and restore the playa
ANNOUNCING: THE DIRTY THIRTY
Playa Restoration is creating an all-star volunteer team of 30 participants representing 30 Theme Camps who come back to the playa for the first 3 days of Restoration (9.19.11 to 9.20.11) and joins with Playa Restoration in keeping the playa beautiful and making the Moop Map happen. This mission will be a bridge between Playa Restoration and the Theme Camp Community.
The team is code named: THE DIRTY THIRTY.
Are you in it to win it? We are. Join us.
email: [email protected].
Subject: THE DIRTY THIRTY.
Tell me what Theme Camp you officially represent, a little about yourself, and your intentions for joining Playa Restoration's first annual Dirty Thirty.
If accepted, you will be notified by us no later than 9/7 (two days after the burn)."
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I have a story for you. Although, I might not really have been the burn...Cheyenne wrote:As an archaeologist, I'm always intrigued about what we dig up and are considered 'the small things forgotten' aspects of the past.
I know that the site moves slightly every year, but what is the possibility that some items yielded up by the playa are actually from past years? and Crawfish?
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Shit, CO. Want me to run over some banker's toes?
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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WTF???!!!
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I think, considering the video on youtube I saw of burning man in 1996, any number of things could be yielded up by a la playa...
I mean, dogs on the playa???
Should we be worried about the possibility of petrefied dog poo from 15 years ago turning up in our moop lines ?
:-S
I mean, dogs on the playa???
Should we be worried about the possibility of petrefied dog poo from 15 years ago turning up in our moop lines ?
:-S
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People bring dogs to 4th of Juplaya, too. You wouldn't believe the things they've found in the past... buried lumber and scrap metal, even a junk car once (as legend has it).
Looks like we've gotten an update. Disorient's sound system/dance area was a solid red, and that other big block of red mentioned in the blog at 2:00 & B was the pub, wasn't it?

Looks like we've gotten an update. Disorient's sound system/dance area was a solid red, and that other big block of red mentioned in the blog at 2:00 & B was the pub, wasn't it?

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Gee, what a surprise.... a sound camp is solid red. The areas across the playa outside the sound camps were red and, the new rating, black.
Shocking.
It is said that MOOP levels have some impact on placement consideration. I would like to think this is true. Might I recommend reducing the size down to 1/4 of what RED offenders were given prior years and then have them EARN space back. Offenders in the black should be, from here forward, not given space the following year to give the offenders an opportunity to truly consider their ineptitude and lack of a clean-up plan.
Just sayin.
Shocking.
It is said that MOOP levels have some impact on placement consideration. I would like to think this is true. Might I recommend reducing the size down to 1/4 of what RED offenders were given prior years and then have them EARN space back. Offenders in the black should be, from here forward, not given space the following year to give the offenders an opportunity to truly consider their ineptitude and lack of a clean-up plan.
Just sayin.
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I think the regular updates are great and add a greater poignancy to the mooping efforts of the dedicated crew that volunteer their service.
I wonder how many of the 50,000 attendees actually are following the progress and what percentage don't have a clue it even happens?
I wonder how many of the 50,000 attendees actually are following the progress and what percentage don't have a clue it even happens?
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Au contraire. I see green all along the 2 side. Not just the sound camps in yellow with many in green. Lets keep it in perspective here.hookahdude wrote:Gee, what a surprise.... a sound camp is solid red. The areas across the playa outside the sound camps were red and, the new rating, black.
Just sayin.
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OK, I'M READY, LETS CLEAN THIS SHIT UP.


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There's a reason why the sound camps at 2:00 and 10:00 had such a wider-reaching MOOP footprint. This year, the camps were allowed to set their sound system/installation up on the other side of the street. That is, the open playa - exactly where you see the colored spots. Had they been confined to their placement locations within the city, so would their MOOP footprint.
I don't have any involvement with the placement teams, and couldn't comment on why they allowed it this year. Maybe it was a space issue, maybe they thought that it would make things easier for them to clean up... I don't know. It's probably also worth pointing out that a number of the big sound camps managed to pull off yellow (which is an improvement for some). Hardly a gold star, but it's progress. I'm a fan of both big sound and big art, but think that the people who bring those things out need to do a better job of factoring in the cleanup involved.
I don't have any involvement with the placement teams, and couldn't comment on why they allowed it this year. Maybe it was a space issue, maybe they thought that it would make things easier for them to clean up... I don't know. It's probably also worth pointing out that a number of the big sound camps managed to pull off yellow (which is an improvement for some). Hardly a gold star, but it's progress. I'm a fan of both big sound and big art, but think that the people who bring those things out need to do a better job of factoring in the cleanup involved.
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Well considering all the camp bars in the last 6 years Ive cleaned up after and always got Green, this year was no different in the way we left it, this yr we even moved all vehicles and mooped again. there was nothing!!!
So to wake up to a big yellow was a fucking slap in the face!!!!
and worse....they dont even tell you WHAT made the mark down!!!! I need answers! DAMNIT ALL TO HELL JIM!
So to wake up to a big yellow was a fucking slap in the face!!!!
and worse....they dont even tell you WHAT made the mark down!!!! I need answers! DAMNIT ALL TO HELL JIM!
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