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Post by Sola Gangsta » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:40 pm

jkisha wrote:Funny how we're always agreeing on things now! :) But not so sure about every country falling though.
And I would have thought that would be an easy place to agree :o Name a country that has been around since the beginning of recorded history (lets assume that Anatoly Fomenko's assumption was wrong) without a significant revolt killing all the leaders at some point during the interm.
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Post by Elderberry » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:50 pm

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jkisha wrote:Funny how we're always agreeing on things now! :) But not so sure about every country falling though.
And I would have thought that would be an easy place to agree :o Name a country that has been around since the beginning of recorded history (lets assume that Anatoly Fomenko's assumption was wrong) without a significant revolt killing all the leaders at some point during the interm.
I like to believe we're charting new territory...going where no country has gone before.
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Post by ygmir » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:53 pm

jkisha wrote:
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jkisha wrote:Funny how we're always agreeing on things now! :) But not so sure about every country falling though.
And I would have thought that would be an easy place to agree :o Name a country that has been around since the beginning of recorded history (lets assume that Anatoly Fomenko's assumption was wrong) without a significant revolt killing all the leaders at some point during the interm.
I like to believe we're charting new territory...going where no country has gone before.
didn't Michelle say something about eating cake just the other day?
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Post by Elderberry » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:09 pm

Ah Michelle...she's become one of my favorites since she's running for president. Can't beat that for entertainment!
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Post by ygmir » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:17 pm

jkisha wrote:Ah Michelle...she's become one of my favorites since she's running for president. Can't beat that for entertainment!

hahahaa, well played, Horatio, well played!!!
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Post by Sola Gangsta » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:33 pm

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jkisha wrote:Ah Michelle...she's become one of my favorites since she's running for president. Can't beat that for entertainment!
hahahaa, well played, Horatio, well played!!!
Michelle Obama or Michelle Bachman? It would be fitting for a first lady to say "let them eat cake". However this is one of those urban legends that probably never actually took place in history.
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jkisha wrote:Ah Michelle...she's become one of my favorites since she's running for president. Can't beat that for entertainment!
hahahaa, well played, Horatio, well played!!!
Michelle Obama or Michelle Bachman? It would be fitting for a first lady to say "let them eat cake". However this is one of those urban legends that probably never actually took place in history.
no, you're right, SG, no one ever really said the "cake" thing..........but, thanks for fucking up my joke.
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Post by Elderberry » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:48 pm

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Post by Sola Gangsta » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:58 pm

jkisha wrote:I like to believe we're charting new territory...going where no country has gone before.
What's different is that it seems like our politicians are actually the secretaries for those who are really in charge introducing another level of government that reduces us to cattle and our politicians to "citizens" (or maybe our farmers) of a world govt. Those in control being the people we owe all that debt to (in addition to all the other countries who owe a debt to this international banking cabal).

So while Egypt has its little tantrum and picks out a new flag, new people, etc... the new people are then faced with taking up the finances of the old govt and nothing changes except for the shuffling of chairs and the signing of papers changing the accounts over to the new stewards. What makes this interesting is that countries don't normally all revolt at once (just as banks are not usually faced with a run on their currency). So while one country falls, another is stable and can potentially be used as an asset by the rulers to patch the fall of sub-states such as Egypt, Libya, etc... So nothing really changes except for surface issues.

Could it be that Bin Laden was really against the international banking cabal and that we were told all along by our banking masters that "they hate us for our freedom" to distract from the real reason why terrorism exists? I know that is probably a stretch for some people and I personally think that religions are just fables made up to quell the fear of death. I'm not an atheist; its just that I'm not convinced that man can fully know truth due to our dyadic state separate from the realm of Nous and will use any excuse to gain manipulative political advantage be it religion or whatever.
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Post by Sola Gangsta » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:59 pm

ygmir wrote:no, you're right, SG, no one ever really said the "cake" thing..........but, thanks for fucking up my joke.
Sorry... I was confused. :?
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Post by moonrise » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:32 am

Sola Gangsta wrote:People are missing the point that the 99% is symbolic, not actual. Fact is that they are probably less than 1% in the streets right now. Doesn't matter. If it reaches even 10% in the streets, you can bet that politicians will be mighty nervous shitting their pants about when to leave office and run for the hills. This movement is an emotional reaction to years of BS generated by politicians and when it's time to pay up with the consequences of those actions they cry "lets be reasonable". Not gonna happen. It's only a matter of time before every country falls. There has never been a permanent state in anyone's history.
SG, What percentage of OWS/99%ers would it require for the 1%ers/politicians to take notice if the OWS/99%ers move their money to local credit unions and small local banks on NOVEMBER 5th? It can be done from their computer, telephone, or driving to the big banks and withdrawing in person.

BBadger, some humans DO need health insurance, from a very young age.... and through their entire life.
Also, what sort of unhealthy food does $200 a month buy these days? My answer is garbage, or certainly not healthy food and deff not safe organics such as the 1%'ers enjoy. That $ amount doesn't include one single restaurant meal, including fast food (You should see the mindless waste I've witnessed in my life serving monied people, it's shameful)
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moonrise wrote:SG, What percentage of OWS/99%ers would it require for the 1%ers/politicians to take notice if the OWS/99%ers move their money to local credit unions and small local banks on NOVEMBER 5th? It can be done from their computer, telephone, or driving to the big banks and withdrawing in person.

BBadger, some humans DO need health insurance, from a very young age.... and through their entire life.
Also, what sort of unhealthy food does $200 a month buy these days? My answer is garbage, or certainly not healthy food and deff not safe organics such as the 1%'ers enjoy. That $ amount doesn't include one single restaurant meal, including fast food (You should see the mindless waste I've witnessed in my life serving monied people, it's shameful)
One has to be careful that it is a real credit union. Some banks use "Credit Union" when they are really just banks. Nevada Federal Credit Union had to change to OneNevada recently because they violated a rule where "Federal" wasn't supposed to be used in their name. It used to be that credit unions were by invitation only. I got into one back in NY years ago. Another problem is that even though they may be credit unions, they are all FDIC except for a very few. One up in the midwest somewhere isn't. They already have taken notice though and I think a move like this is a bit like shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic. The only move that would make sense here is to take your money out. Why? What people don't realize is that the information about how much you make and where it is, is more important to elites running the show than anything else. How does a merchant know how much to charge for something? When it is a luxury item, it is priced to sell, but when there are laws making your expense compulsory such as taxes, auto insurance, licenses, etc then they set the price based upon their information about what you have. When you go to someone and ask them how much something is and they reply "how much you got"? what does that say about the person you're dealing with? Well that is what is happening in some areas of the banking industry. Prices are set to drain you and they can do this because they know how much you have. If they have to guess, then they have to go cheaper because too high and they can't sell whatever it is they have to sell. So a massive withdraw from the system using cash only would be slightly more effective. But they've already taken notice and will not concede anything without a fight (individuals in govt may have a conscience, but the govt itself has none and no single individual has control in govt). To really fuck them over you have to use your own money system and regard the dollar as worthless. Ask some American Indians on how to do this - if you can find any (we've made them slightly scarce though our genocide campaign over the past couple of centuries).

As to the healthy food, some say that is part of the plan to depopulate the planet because as I said before elites have no problem with money - they can print it on demand and write themselves checks with your tax dollars, what they do worry about is that their "human farm/livestock" will grow out of control and become too unruly for them to handle.
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Post by Elderberry » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:39 am

It's interesting that even though the numbers of people actually camping out are small, they are having a huge influence on public discourse. They are always on the news. There are countless people joining their pages on Facebook and following them on Twitter. And everyday it seems another small occupation happens in another small town or big city. And it's not just in the United States either; which is surprising that people in less democratic places than here seem to find it important to help us fight for our democracy. (Think about that for a minute.)

I'll be joining an OWS event tonight--my first one. I'm not much into the "occupation" thing; but I will make it more of a priority to attend more rallies and bring provisions to those that are spending long cold nights there. (Though it's not all that cold in Los Angeles.)
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Post by Sola Gangsta » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:09 am

Here are some specifics for the intellectuals amongst you:

http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html
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Post by Elderberry » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:50 am

Sola Gangsta wrote:Here are some specifics for the intellectuals amongst you:

http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html
Too many words with too small and hard to read type and lots of code words that make my eyes roll back in my head.
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Post by moonrise » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:09 am

jkisha wrote:It's interesting that even though the numbers of people actually camping out are small, they are having a huge influence on public discourse. They are always on the news. There are countless people joining their pages on Facebook and following them on Twitter. And everyday it seems another small occupation happens in another small town or big city. And it's not just in the United States either; which is surprising that people in less democratic places than here seem to find it important to help us fight for our democracy. (Think about that for a minute.)

I'll be joining an OWS event tonight--my first one. I'm not much into the "occupation" thing; but I will make it more of a priority to attend more rallies and bring provisions to those that are spending long cold nights there. (Though it's not all that cold in Los Angeles.)
Maybe they learned how to work the online angle from Obama. Fight fire with fire (IMO, he's the lessor of two evils)

Thanks for the response post SG, and the slaughter house cartoon...(I'm feeling a bit doomed, maybe not so fast though, I have ideas)
From this )'( to a much stronger this ]'[ & Yet again, it's time to get tougher, wiser, stronger, and remain kind hearted, easy enough, we hope!

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jkisha, you're sweet...I like whatever you decide to bring (if only I were in L.A.! :D )
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jkisha wrote:
Sola Gangsta wrote:Here are some specifics for the intellectuals amongst you:

http://watch.pair.com/roundtable.html
Too many words with too small and hard to read type and lots of code words that make my eyes roll back in my head.
And it's only the agenda of a few people which makes the whole picture hopelessly complicated (but I find the idea of the attempt at restored British empire under the ideas expressed in Plato's Statesman interesting - the offshoot being the Neocon agenda based upon the philosophy of Leo Strauss).

The simpler way of looking at this is the "farm" analogy where most of us are cattle and the elites are "farmers" trying to keep their livestock under control and the weeds from killing the useful crops. I find that it is better to ignore what individuals in govt say and just pay attention to the effects of their actions because this leads to a much more accurate picture of where we are actually headed.
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moonrise wrote:Maybe they learned how to work the online angle from Obama. Fight fire with fire (IMO, he's the lessor of two evils)
The lesser of two evils is still evil. To support a lesser evil is to insure that not good shall come.
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Sola Gangsta wrote:
moonrise wrote:Maybe they learned how to work the online angle from Obama. Fight fire with fire (IMO, he's the lessor of two evils)
The lesser of two evils is still evil. To support a lesser evil is to insure that not good shall come.
yup, and yup.
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Post by unjonharley » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:22 pm

Occupy, my ass,

I have better movements in my bathroom every day..

Other than "We Don't Like Greed".. Nothing..

Bunch of freaks dig out grandma's old hippie rags. Go hang out in a park and talk to one another..

No one from outside the ranks has even spoken to them.. Not even Jessie Jackson or Saha Palin
The media don't know what to do with any of it.. They only report when cop kick some ass.. The cops do that cuz that's what they think it's expected of them.
If it gets rough, That's for cutting into there coffee break..

Go home, take what ever money out of the sysetem, spend only on food & shelter and pool your money to buy a polly ticer of your own.. Just like the big boys on Wall Street do..

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Post by Elderberry » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:56 pm

You're wrong on that one...Jessie Jackson has indeed been among the OWS protesters. http://animalnewyork.com/2011/10/jesse- ... d-by-nypd/
No Sarah and her cronies (i.e. Republicans) will never be among them. I'm not sure sure about the Tea Party though.
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jkisha wrote:You're wrong on that one...Jessie Jackson has indeed been among the OWS protesters. http://animalnewyork.com/2011/10/jesse- ... d-by-nypd/
No Sarah and her cronies (i.e. Republicans) will never be among them. I'm not sure sure about the Tea Party though.

crimeny, if they're inviting the Rev. Jackson, they just went down a notch with me........
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Post by Elderberry » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:06 pm

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jkisha wrote:You're wrong on that one...Jessie Jackson has indeed been among the OWS protesters. http://animalnewyork.com/2011/10/jesse- ... d-by-nypd/
No Sarah and her cronies (i.e. Republicans) will never be among them. I'm not sure sure about the Tea Party though.

crimeny, if they're inviting the Rev. Jackson, they just went down a notch with me........
They don't invite anybody. They didn't invite the Unions, they didn't invite Jessie Jackson, and as far as I know, they have never invited anyone else that just chooses to show up there in support of the cause.
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jkisha wrote:
ygmir wrote:
jkisha wrote:You're wrong on that one...Jessie Jackson has indeed been among the OWS protesters. http://animalnewyork.com/2011/10/jesse- ... d-by-nypd/
No Sarah and her cronies (i.e. Republicans) will never be among them. I'm not sure sure about the Tea Party though.

crimeny, if they're inviting the Rev. Jackson, they just went down a notch with me........
They don't invite anybody. They didn't invite the Unions, they didn't invite Jessie Jackson, and as far as I know, they have never invited anyone else that just chooses to show up there in support of the cause.
well, that's good to hear......I just hope, they distance themselves from him.
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Post by unjonharley » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:17 pm

jkisha wrote:You're wrong on that one...Jessie Jackson has indeed been among the OWS protesters. http://animalnewyork.com/2011/10/jesse- ... d-by-nypd/
No Sarah and her cronies (i.e. Republicans) will never be among them. I'm not sure sure about the Tea Party though.
Maybe OWS could get Saha to say something stupid to get things rolling..
That's what the republicans do..

The Tea Party is so yesterday. Just like OWS will be after the next big thing..

Wounder how much profit Wall Street has made off all those tents, blankets and other high end camping shit.. Odds are most of the occupiers have never seen a tent before..

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ygmir wrote:
jkisha wrote:You're wrong on that one...Jessie Jackson has indeed been among the OWS protesters. http://animalnewyork.com/2011/10/jesse- ... d-by-nypd/
No Sarah and her cronies (i.e. Republicans) will never be among them. I'm not sure sure about the Tea Party though.

crimeny, if they're inviting the Rev. Jackson, they just went down a notch with me........


well, that's good to hear......I just hope, they distance themselves from him.[/quote]

The only fame Jackson has to claim.. Is jumping in front of some one's parade and claiming he is the leader.. Been doing that for years. It hasn't worked yet..

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