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Re: Fuck!

Post by MyDearFriend » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:05 am

Yeah Fig I think I need to point out the advantage of correcting our "mistake" within 30 days versus going to jail for 10 fucking years. :lol:
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Post by Elorrum » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:53 am

I Don't suppose you can pull off the "my dog ate it " scenario. Ah fuck. Hugs hugs MDF
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Re: Fuck!

Post by gyre » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:07 am

MDF, there may be ways to do the right thing without hanging yourself out to dry.

Some people run into similar issues all the time.
I can seek some advice, if you wish.

It sounds like you are already aware of what is illegal and what you consider unethical, not always the same thing.

This is a common issue in journalism and politics.
You may have many alternatives.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by theCryptofishist » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:14 am

Any chance of the anonymous whistle-blower thing?
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Re: Fuck!

Post by burner von braun » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:48 pm

fuck, sorry you are in this dilemma MDF

Until resolved, I would start privately documenting on paper your relevant day to day work activities and assignments etc., including times and dates, keep this safe at home, and consider a backup copy stored elsewhere, definitely not at your work location.

Do not let them know you are documenting the situation..

meanwhile... I hope this gets straightened out and you never need it
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Bin Noddin » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:30 pm

((((MDF))))
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Post by wh..sh » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:35 pm

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In a situation like this, you should get all your instructions in writing. If your manager wants you to do something that you think is not part of your job description, get it in writing (email or whatever). Oral communication don't go a long way in these cases. You need in writing that says that you are doing this based on your supervisor's instructions. I would also start a written communication regarding every process involved so you have a paper trail. While this will help you save yourself if you get in a soup, if it were me, I would directly talk to the manager and communicate the fear you have about doing something unethical, and if necessary even talk to the Human Resources (anonymously).
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Post by Sham » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:52 am

MDF, it sounds like you feel that this is a violation of HIPAA rules. I think HIPAA is yet another government edict gone wild. If you are a professional healthcare person, and asked to enter medical information into a database, it sounds like that would be a legitimate reason for having access to that info.
My company does work in various businesses, and there are several nursing homes in the customer base. I got a very long form in the mail that appears to be attempting to make my company a mandated reporter of suspected abuse.
We know nothing about the individual situation of the patients, and it's possible to find someone restrained for their own safety or a person erroneously complaining due to mental issues they may have.
I have chosen not to sign any paperwork that would drag me into the middle of something I know nothing about.
In your case MDF, I would definitely ask for an explanation and instructions in writing to cover your ass. Those instructions can give you the "required authorization" to do your job without fear of prosecution.

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Post by Sail Man » Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:10 pm

ygmir wrote:awe FUCK.
Gramma fell last night, compound fractured femur.........she lives alone, but, had one of those "help, I can't get up" necklace things......I'm hoping she had it on.
I don't have many details yet.
But, at 88, this can be a tough injury.

She's my "ex-mother in law" but, we've remained close, and, she's been so much like a mom.......dang it.
(((((Ygmir))))) Those are hard injuries to bounce back from at her age. She is going to have a long rehab ahead of her. And even when she returns home she will need help for a long time.

But if you are close by and can help her, I know she will be in very capable hands.

(Edited to add my Fuck and astonished that Ygmir didn't call me on the carpet for it)
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Re: Fuck!

Post by ygmir » Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:12 pm

Sail Man wrote:
ygmir wrote:awe FUCK.
Gramma fell last night, compound fractured femur.........she lives alone, but, had one of those "help, I can't get up" necklace things......I'm hoping she had it on.
I don't have many details yet.
But, at 88, this can be a tough injury.

She's my "ex-mother in law" but, we've remained close, and, she's been so much like a mom.......dang it.
(((((Ygmir))))) Those are hard injuries to bounce back from at her age. She is going to have a long rehab ahead of her. And even when she returns home she will need help for a long time.

But if you are close by and can help her, I know she will be in very capable hands.
yeah, dang...........720 miles away, to be exact.............fuck.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by maryanimal » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:22 pm

ygmir wrote:
Sail Man wrote:
ygmir wrote:awe FUCK.
Gramma fell last night, compound fractured femur.........she lives alone, but, had one of those "help, I can't get up" necklace things......I'm hoping she had it on.
I don't have many details yet.
But, at 88, this can be a tough injury.

She's my "ex-mother in law" but, we've remained close, and, she's been so much like a mom.......dang it.
(((((Ygmir))))) Those are hard injuries to bounce back from at her age. She is going to have a long rehab ahead of her. And even when she returns home she will need help for a long time.

But if you are close by and can help her, I know she will be in very capable hands.
yeah, dang...........720 miles away, to be exact.............fuck.

Where does she live Yg?
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Re: Fuck!

Post by ygmir » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:26 pm

fuckin Washington.........(*well, I love WAshington, as a state, so, just using my "fuck", no offense)
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Post by moonrise » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:03 pm

Oldguy wrote: my dog got her bandages off yesterday, 4 more days on meds and we are done. She is doing very well now that her tumors are gone.
Awww, she must be so happy! What's her name?

I miss my dog, Frank,the dawg. (black lab/pit bull mix--such a good dog, fluid, like a drop of water)

(((MDF))) lots of good advice given so far. (Wh..sh, yer good!)
I was carefully taught, all managers/bosses are at fault at your Jay Oh Bee. You MUST document everything, FUCK, what a PITA. :x
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Re: Fuck!

Post by MyDearFriend » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:14 am

Shambala wrote:MDF, it sounds like you feel that this is a violation of HIPAA rules. I think HIPAA is yet another government edict gone wild. If you are a professional healthcare person, and asked to enter medical information into a database, it sounds like that would be a legitimate reason for having access to that info.
My company does work in various businesses, and there are several nursing homes in the customer base. I got a very long form in the mail that appears to be attempting to make my company a mandated reporter of suspected abuse.
We know nothing about the individual situation of the patients, and it's possible to find someone restrained for their own safety or a person erroneously complaining due to mental issues they may have.
I have chosen not to sign any paperwork that would drag me into the middle of something I know nothing about.
In your case MDF, I would definitely ask for an explanation and instructions in writing to cover your ass. Those instructions can give you the "required authorization" to do your job without fear of prosecution.

FUCK!
Yep, Sham, I am pretty convinced it's a fucking HIPPA violation, and, yeah I know that set of regs backwards and forwards as I deal with HIPPA issues every day. And I have no problems accepting or sharing PHI in every allowable instance. But I have been through the regs again front to back and find nothing to permit what I am currently tasked with. Which SUCKS since I really like my boss. But her health is bad, she's getting ready to retire soon and I think she's caving to pressure rather than thinking for herself.

So, I had a meeting with her first thing yesterday, told her how I feel, and said I would not be doing this.

And I have filed a report with our Corporate Integrity office.

So now I feel better. I probably won't be fired over this. Probably. Retaliation for reporting is supposedly prohibited.
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Post by wh..sh » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:19 am

MyDearFriend wrote: Yep, Sham, I am pretty convinced it's a fucking HIPPA violation, and, yeah I know that set of regs backwards and forwards as I deal with HIPPA issues every day. And I have no problems accepting or sharing PHI in every allowable instance. But I have been through the regs again front to back and find nothing to permit what I am currently tasked with. Which SUCKS since I really like my boss. But her health is bad, she's getting ready to retire soon and I think she's caving to pressure rather than thinking for herself.

So, I had a meeting with her first thing yesterday, told her how I feel, and said I would not be doing this.

And I have filed a report with our Corporate Integrity office.

So now I feel better. I probably won't be fired over this. Probably. Retaliation for reporting is supposedly prohibited.
Woohooo!!! Great job MDF! Yes, they cannot fire you now. Retaliation can cause more legal issues, so they won't get in there.
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:26 am

Fuck yeah, MDF! You're standing up for the rest of us!

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Post by ygmir » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:34 am

nice fucking job, MDF!!
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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:05 am

Proud of you, MDF.
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Post by maryanimal » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:48 pm

ygmir wrote:fuckin Washington.........(*well, I love WAshington, as a state, so, just using my "fuck", no offense)

awww... it's Ok yg! Does she need a caregiver? I could probably suggest a few caregiving businesses. What city is she in?
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Post by maryanimal » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:55 pm

Good Job MDF!! I so admire your strength and loyalty for what is right! Thank you!
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Post by ygmir » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:36 pm

maryanimal wrote:
ygmir wrote:fuckin Washington.........(*well, I love WAshington, as a state, so, just using my "fuck", no offense)

awww... it's Ok yg! Does she need a caregiver? I could probably suggest a few caregiving businesses. What city is she in?
Thanks MA.........too fuckin early to tell, what and when........she had knee replacement, and, it sounds the the bone above shattered. They put it all back together, plates and such. I'm getting my info second hand, from my ex, so, that's what I know, for now.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by MisaBlue » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:15 pm

fuck fuck fuck

it is interesting how you can have an absolutely awesome thing and absolutely fucked up thing happen in the same day...and no matter how big and awesome was the good one, because the other one just makes you feel angry and sad...
and you just need hug but aint gonna have it because the person to hug you lives over 6000 miles away...so you have meltdown on this board...jeeez and it is fullmoon... fuck
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Post by moonrise » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:23 pm

Fuck! the moon, cheer up Misa... :P (fucking moons) :twisted: I'm nice moon 8)
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Post by ygmir » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:20 pm

awe Fuck......Misa............whatever it is, I'll send a hug, if that'll help. (((((((((MISA)))))))))))))\
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Post by Sham » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:25 pm

Did someone say, "full moon"? Cheer up Misa!

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Post by Eric » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:18 pm

(((Misa)))

And MDF- I'm fucking proud of you. It takes some personal strength to report something like that, and it shows just how great of a person you are.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:29 pm

(Fuck, Sham, I don't like that brown in the lower crack of #2 from the left)

Sorry things are fucking up for you, Misa. You know we think the fucking world of you, don't you?
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Post by Savannah » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:37 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:(Fuck, Sham, I don't like that brown in the lower crack of #2 from the left)
It's a thong, but that caught my eye as well. The tall girl has the same issue. Amateurs! :lol:

A kudos for MDF on handling things in what sounds like THE best possible way, and a resounding FUCK for everyone else.

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Post by ygmir » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:42 pm

Savannah wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:(Fuck, Sham, I don't like that brown in the lower crack of #2 from the left)
It's a thong, but that caught my eye as well. The tall girl has the same issue. Amateurs! :lol:

A kudos for MDF on handling things in what sounds like THE best possible way, and a resounding FUCK for everyone else.
fuckin...........**sigh**.................
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Re: Fuck!

Post by wh..sh » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:09 pm

Fuck!
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