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Post by BBadger » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:30 pm

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:31 pm

ok....back on topic....seriously...

ideas on how to evolve the movement into a viable political force that has already, but will affect positive, non-violent change and how to sustain momentum?
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Post by H.G.Crosby » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:34 pm

and more importantly....who wants to occupy tel-aviv?

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Post by BBadger » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:35 pm

I really wonder how many of those OWS will even bother to vote?
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Post by moonrise » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:36 pm

jkisha wrote:An excellent video.
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BBadger wrote:
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:38 pm

Sola Gangsta wrote:
BBadger wrote:
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yeah, i was thinking the same thing....he's not that well hung.
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Simon of the Playa wrote:ok....back on topic....seriously...

ideas on how to evolve the movement into a viable political force that has already, but will affect positive, non-violent change and how to sustain momentum?
Don't worry that will come as austerity measures hit the good ole USA. Watch democrats and their twins in the other party whittle down social security and cut and slash medicare. Italy has shown what happens. The retirement age has been boosted by 5 years and to age 69 by the 2040's. The labor movement can't get any more dismantled than it already is, so watch for new organizing drives around democratically reformed unions and worker centers. No one in Washington has a better plan other than deficit reduction, which will only make matters worse. Come on. They're not talking about deficit reduction where it's needed most- in tax loophole closure for millionaires and billionaires, idiotic over the top defense spending, taxing stock & derivative trades, more. The Occupy Movement does need to energize new peoples candidates, and since we live in a Hollywood-ized culture, why not Matt Damon, Daniel Sunjata, Jesse Ventura, or Sean Penn for pres? Sean Penn could beat any of the third rate asshats now running from the republican party and he could beat Obama too.
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cowboyangel wrote:The Occupy Movement does need to energize new peoples candidates, and since we live in a Hollywood-ized culture, why not Matt Damon, Daniel Sunjata, Jesse Ventura, or Sean Penn for pres? Sean Penn could beat any of the third rate asshats now running from the republican party and he could beat Obama too.
* i won't bother with the obvious comment. *

but honestly, i wonder if there is any industry that has a wider income disparity than entertainment.

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Simon of the Playa wrote:ok....back on topic....seriously...

ideas on how to evolve the movement into a viable political force that has already, but will affect positive, non-violent change and how to sustain momentum?
Don't worry that will come as austerity measures hit the good ole USA. Watch democrats and their twins in the other party whittle down social security and cut and slash medicare. Italy has shown what happens. The retirement age has been boosted by 5 years and to age 69 by the 2040's. The labor movement can't get any more dismantled than it already is, so watch for new organizing drives around democratically reformed unions and worker centers. No one in Washington has a better plan other than deficit reduction, which will only make matters worse. Come on. They're not talking about deficit reduction where it's needed most- in tax loophole closure for millionaires and billionaires, idiotic over the top defense spending, taxing stock & derivative trades, more. The Occupy Movement does need to energize new peoples candidates, and since we live in a Hollywood-ized culture, why not Matt Damon, Daniel Sunjata, Jesse Ventura, or Sean Penn for pres? Sean Penn could beat any of the third rate asshats now running from the republican party and he could beat Obama too.
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Post by BBadger » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:07 pm

Sola Gangsta wrote:World Debt Map (green represents the most wealth in bank accounts):
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Whoever made that doesn't understand that money in bank accounts comprises a small amount of what is considered "wealth assets."
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Post by Sola Gangsta » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:15 pm

BBadger wrote:
Sola Gangsta wrote:World Debt Map (green represents the most wealth in bank accounts):
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Whoever made that doesn't understand that money in bank accounts comprises a small amount of what is considered "wealth assets."
I think it is a liquid asset map. Which means that because of all the foreclosures and bankruptcies in the USA, the USA is brown because the "real" assets are owned predominately by the 1%.
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Sola Gangsta wrote:
BBadger wrote:
Sola Gangsta wrote:World Debt Map (green represents the most wealth in bank accounts):
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Whoever made that doesn't understand that money in bank accounts comprises a small amount of what is considered "wealth assets."
I think it is a liquid asset map. Which means that because of all the foreclosures and bankruptcies in the USA, the USA is brown because the "real" assets are owned predominately by the 1%.
Wow, you sure are reading a lot into that map. I take it you know just about as much about such things as the putz who made it?
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Nipple wrote:Not buying it, Henry!
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Post by Sola Gangsta » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:32 pm

BBadger wrote:Wow, you sure are reading a lot into that map. I take it you know just about as much about such things as the putz who made it?
I've traveled to 47 USA states on the main continent (between 2007 - 2011) and have talked to lots of people. Who really knows what the exact numbers are? All I know is that almost everyone I've talked to is in deep financial trouble all across this land. There are obviously some who are doing OK, but there's a very sizable underclass developing in the USA and the middle class is being squeezed terribly (I'm an example of this as a software engineer who decided to become homeless or stay with others for periods of time in order to ensure that I can stay in business.) I'm highly skilled, but there just aren't jobs out there even for those of us who are in the 1% intellectually or physically. The ownership class has essentially said "fuck off" ...we'll call you if we need you.
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Sola Gangsta wrote: I'm highly skilled, but there just aren't jobs out there even for those of us who are in the 1% intellectually or physically.
as well as 1% humility-wise

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Post by Sola Gangsta » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:50 pm

littleflower wrote:
Sola Gangsta wrote: I'm highly skilled, but there just aren't jobs out there even for those of us who are in the 1% intellectually or physically.
as well as 1% humility-wise
Muhammad Ali was the same way for a reason. There's a time to be loud and there's a time to shut up. This is the wrong time to be quiet. When the BS stops flying in the banking system, that's when I'll be quiet.
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BBadger wrote:Wow, you sure are reading a lot into that map. I take it you know just about as much about such things as the putz who made it?
I've traveled to 47 USA states on the main continent (between 2007 - 2011) and have talked to lots of people. Who really knows what the exact numbers are? All I know is that almost everyone I've talked to is in deep financial trouble all across this land. There are obviously some who are doing OK, but there's a very sizable underclass developing in the USA and the middle class is being squeezed terribly (I'm an example of this as a software engineer who decided to become homeless or stay with others for periods of time in order to ensure that I can stay in business.) I'm highly skilled, but there just aren't jobs out there even for those of us who are in the 1% intellectually or physically. The ownership class has essentially said "fuck off" ...we'll call you if we need you.
Then why paste some stupid colored map with no citations, and make stupid, unfounded statements regarding what it represents? It doesn't even stop there. Then you continue to reply with some unrelated bullshit about how you've traveled around yakking to people about platitudes completely unrelated to the message you're replying to.
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Sola Gangsta wrote:
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Sola Gangsta wrote: I'm highly skilled, but there just aren't jobs out there even for those of us who are in the 1% intellectually or physically.
as well as 1% humility-wise
Muhammad Ali was the same way for a reason. There's a time to be loud and there's a time to shut up. This is the wrong time to be quiet. When the BS stops flying in the banking system, that's when I'll be quiet.
that's just awesome ......

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Post by ygmir » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:09 pm

yeah, good on ya. Post anything with Jesse Jackson, maybe Louis Farrakhan, and, you'll get all sorts of respect.

you big muscled, musically talented, highly intellectual guys sure have some funny ideas.
And, of course, a diminutive, ordinary man, such as myself, would harken to your call and feel enraptured, at the mere suggestion of recognition, or being present, when such prescient thoughts and cogent arguments, are made.......

I thank you, for that.

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Post by Sola Gangsta » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:16 pm

ygmir wrote:Meanwhile, I'll just be doin my job, keeping society safe.........
I suggest you build a good shelter for yourself in Tahoe area and stock up if you haven't already in case paper money becomes useless when austerity hits.
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Sola Gangsta wrote:
ygmir wrote:Meanwhile, I'll just be doin my job, keeping society safe.........
I suggest you build a good shelter for yourself in Tahoe area and stock up if you haven't already in case paper money becomes useless when austerity hits.
been ridin that bike, for years......but, thanks for caring enough to point it out......
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ygmir wrote:yeah, good on ya. Post anything with Jesse Jackson, maybe Louis Farrakhan, and, you'll get all sorts of respect.
As I said earlier, I don't agree with everything that shows up in these videos. It would be hard to find someone who I would be in 100% agreement with. I chose that particular segment because of what it says about the media. I find attempts by those here to misrepresent my position an indication of either dishonesty or misunderstanding.
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Sola Gangsta wrote:
ygmir wrote:yeah, good on ya. Post anything with Jesse Jackson, maybe Louis Farrakhan, and, you'll get all sorts of respect.
As I said earlier, I don't agree with everything that shows up in these videos. It would be hard to find someone who I would be in 100% agreement with. I chose that particular segment because of what it says about the media. I find attempts by those here to misrepresent my position an indication of either dishonesty or misunderstanding.
I think you'll find very little dishonesty here.

and, for sure, there can be misunderstanding,

do you also, in that equation, allow for rejection of the premise, content, or intent?
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