"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.
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Are we finished with the silly stuff?
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cowboyangel wrote:I was in NROTC...used to drill on Mondays..got bottles and stuff thrown at us...then when out of uniform, I'd join in the anti-war protests....jkisha wrote:I picked my sisters up from the Kent State Campus when this happened. I was recently back from the war and being on that campus at that time was surreal for so many reasons.Sola Gangsta wrote:
so, why were you in NROTC then? Or, why did you stay? if you did.
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no, didn't stay, joined the Greenpeace Navy instead...a decision I will always be proud of.......ygmir wrote:
I was in NROTC...used to drill on Mondays..got bottles and stuff thrown at us...then when out of uniform, I'd join in the anti-war protests....
so, why were you in NROTC then? Or, why did you stay? if you did.
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just wonderin. As suspected, you are true to your beliefs, and maintain your integrity.cowboyangel wrote:no, didn't stay, joined the Greenpeace Navy instead...a decision I will always be proud of.......ygmir wrote:
I was in NROTC...used to drill on Mondays..got bottles and stuff thrown at us...then when out of uniform, I'd join in the anti-war protests....
so, why were you in NROTC then? Or, why did you stay? if you did.
I respect that. not that my respect matters, but, well, I do.
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Now instead of just a Halloween prank, they get to do it for real:
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better than kilgore.
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This was a fun to see, very appropriate. Be sure to read the link to the New York Times article also.Sola Gangsta wrote:Now instead of just a Halloween prank, they get to do it for real:
Baum Weighs In After Uproar
Also, for more information
Robo-signing scandal may date back to late '90s
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So there is some justice in the world after all.
Sola Gangsta wrote:Now instead of just a Halloween prank, they get to do it for real:
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Super Committee Fails: How Republican Tax Intransigence Killed It: A Timeline
Monday 21 November 2011
by: Sarah Ayres, Think Progress | News Analysis
By now we have all heard the latest in the months-long debate over reducing the nation’s deficit — barring a last-minute miracle, the congressional super committee tasked with finding at least $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction will fail to come to an agreement. Cue handwringing by pundits lamenting the inability of both Democrats and Republicans to compromise.
The notion that both sides share in the blame is an easy line for commentators to repeat, but it isn’t true. Time and time again, the only thing preventing an agreement on long-term deficit reduction has been the Republicans’ absolute refusal to consider any tax increases on high-income households as part of the solution. Michael Linden and I created a timeline of major events in the past six months of deficit talks:
February 14, 2011: President Barack Obama submits budget for 2012 with about $2 trillion in deficit reduction, half of which come from spending cuts.
April 15, 2011: House passes Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, which includes $5.8 trillion in spending cuts along with tax cuts for the richest Americans.
May 5, 2011: Vice President Joe Biden begins debt talks.
May 11, 2011: Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) says he will not raise debt limit without spending cuts that match how much the limit is raised.
June 23, 2011: Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) walks away from debt ceiling talks with Biden after refusing to consider any tax increases. The administration had offered $2.4 trillion in spending cuts for $400 billion in taxes, an 83:17 split.
July 7, 2011: Obama and Boehner begin debt-ceiling negotiations.
July 9, 2011: Boehner walks away from Obama’s “grand bargain”: $4 trillion in debt reduction comprised of $1 trillion in revenue and $3 trillion in spending cuts, including entitlement reforms.
July 19, 2011: The Gang of Six proposes a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan, including $2 trillion in revenue.
July 22, 2011: Again, Boehner walks away from negotiations after Obama offers $1.2 trillion in revenues and $1.6 trillion in spending cuts, including entitlements.
July 31, 2011: Debt ceiling agreement is reached, cutting $1 trillion in spending immediately and establishing the super committee to reduce deficits by at least an additional $1.2 trillion.
October 26, 2011: Democrats first super committee offer is $3 trillion in deficit reduction comprised of about $1.3 trillion in revenues and $1.7 trillion in spending cuts, including cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. Republicans immediately reject it. Republicans’ first super committee offer is $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, which includes no new tax revenues.
November 8, 2011: Republicans’ second super committee offer is $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction. It does include $300 billion in new tax revenue, but in exchange for extending the Bush tax cuts and lowering the top tax rate. The plan would ultimately cut taxes for the wealthy and raise them for everyone else.
November 10, 2011: Democrats’ second offer is $2.3 trillion in deficit reduction, consisting of $1.3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in revenue. The revenue would be split between $350 billion in concrete measures and $650 billion in future tax reform. Republicans reject it.
November 11, 2011: Democrats agree to Republicans’ top lines including just $400 billion in revenues and $875 billion in spending cuts, but refuse to accept the GOP’s tax cut for the rich. Republicans reject it and make their final offer: $640 billion in spending cuts and $3 billion in revenues.
rest of the article here: http://www.truth-out.org/super-committe ... 1321914735
This is great I think. The republicans are slitting their throats with a rusty razor called "the 1%" and that's great, now if only that fat faced cholesterol lunatic -Grover Norquist would choke on a chicken bone that would be icing on the cake. This intransigence to raise taxes on the rat fuck greed invested 1% will haunt them for the next decade. Thank you OWS for greasing the wheels of this epic failure!
Monday 21 November 2011
by: Sarah Ayres, Think Progress | News Analysis
By now we have all heard the latest in the months-long debate over reducing the nation’s deficit — barring a last-minute miracle, the congressional super committee tasked with finding at least $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction will fail to come to an agreement. Cue handwringing by pundits lamenting the inability of both Democrats and Republicans to compromise.
The notion that both sides share in the blame is an easy line for commentators to repeat, but it isn’t true. Time and time again, the only thing preventing an agreement on long-term deficit reduction has been the Republicans’ absolute refusal to consider any tax increases on high-income households as part of the solution. Michael Linden and I created a timeline of major events in the past six months of deficit talks:
February 14, 2011: President Barack Obama submits budget for 2012 with about $2 trillion in deficit reduction, half of which come from spending cuts.
April 15, 2011: House passes Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, which includes $5.8 trillion in spending cuts along with tax cuts for the richest Americans.
May 5, 2011: Vice President Joe Biden begins debt talks.
May 11, 2011: Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) says he will not raise debt limit without spending cuts that match how much the limit is raised.
June 23, 2011: Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) walks away from debt ceiling talks with Biden after refusing to consider any tax increases. The administration had offered $2.4 trillion in spending cuts for $400 billion in taxes, an 83:17 split.
July 7, 2011: Obama and Boehner begin debt-ceiling negotiations.
July 9, 2011: Boehner walks away from Obama’s “grand bargain”: $4 trillion in debt reduction comprised of $1 trillion in revenue and $3 trillion in spending cuts, including entitlement reforms.
July 19, 2011: The Gang of Six proposes a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan, including $2 trillion in revenue.
July 22, 2011: Again, Boehner walks away from negotiations after Obama offers $1.2 trillion in revenues and $1.6 trillion in spending cuts, including entitlements.
July 31, 2011: Debt ceiling agreement is reached, cutting $1 trillion in spending immediately and establishing the super committee to reduce deficits by at least an additional $1.2 trillion.
October 26, 2011: Democrats first super committee offer is $3 trillion in deficit reduction comprised of about $1.3 trillion in revenues and $1.7 trillion in spending cuts, including cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. Republicans immediately reject it. Republicans’ first super committee offer is $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction, which includes no new tax revenues.
November 8, 2011: Republicans’ second super committee offer is $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction. It does include $300 billion in new tax revenue, but in exchange for extending the Bush tax cuts and lowering the top tax rate. The plan would ultimately cut taxes for the wealthy and raise them for everyone else.
November 10, 2011: Democrats’ second offer is $2.3 trillion in deficit reduction, consisting of $1.3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in revenue. The revenue would be split between $350 billion in concrete measures and $650 billion in future tax reform. Republicans reject it.
November 11, 2011: Democrats agree to Republicans’ top lines including just $400 billion in revenues and $875 billion in spending cuts, but refuse to accept the GOP’s tax cut for the rich. Republicans reject it and make their final offer: $640 billion in spending cuts and $3 billion in revenues.
rest of the article here: http://www.truth-out.org/super-committe ... 1321914735
This is great I think. The republicans are slitting their throats with a rusty razor called "the 1%" and that's great, now if only that fat faced cholesterol lunatic -Grover Norquist would choke on a chicken bone that would be icing on the cake. This intransigence to raise taxes on the rat fuck greed invested 1% will haunt them for the next decade. Thank you OWS for greasing the wheels of this epic failure!
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"... letting business blossom ..."
See oligarchy.
Really any good american history class.
That philosophy is good for the businesses allowed to drive all competition into the dust, at the cost of the public and every other business.
See current russian business model.

See oligarchy.
Really any good american history class.
That philosophy is good for the businesses allowed to drive all competition into the dust, at the cost of the public and every other business.
See current russian business model.

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From time to time, I've thought it might be interesting to have a couple of guys who look the part, in full Chinese military uniform, stand outside of the Walmart, with big broad unsettling smiles, and thank people for shopping at 'their' store.
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*spits coffee out nose*burner von braun wrote:From time to time, I've thought it might be interesting to have a couple of guys who look the part, in full Chinese military uniform, stand outside of the Walmart, with big broad unsettling smiles, and thank people for shopping at 'their' store.
thanks...........
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I think walmart would love that!


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Thanks, I am curious about the beginnings of this. Someplace, someone decided, hey this is a neat idea, and other people copied them, probably hungry for a commission and caring for little else.Box Burner wrote:
Robo-signing scandal may date back to late '90s
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Ingredients not labels.Simon of the Playa wrote:sola gangsta, posting ANYTHING from RT aka RUSSIAN TELEVISION as a NEWS SOURCE immediately destroys your credibility, what little you have left that is.
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cowboyangel wrote: This is great I think. The republicans are slitting their throats with a rusty razor called "the 1%" and that's great, now if only that fat faced cholesterol lunatic -Grover Norquist would choke on a chicken bone that would be icing on the cake. This intransigence to raise taxes on the rat fuck greed invested 1% will haunt them for the next decade. Thank you OWS for greasing the wheels of this epic failure!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... agon-cuts/If members of Congress cannot implement a contingency plan, the Pentagon would have to bear half of the $1.2 trillion in budget cuts. The cuts would begin in 2013, when the Congressional Budget Office estimates that the Defense Department would have to slash 10 percent, or about $550 billion, from its budget. Combined with the $450 billion worth of cuts already planned, that would amount to $1 trillion in the next decade.
This is basically the budget that we used to fight in Yugoslavia and Desert Storm.
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Don't believe it. The military cuts will never happen. (at least not all of the $550 billion) They (congress/republicans) are planning on doing a cute little bookkeeping trick to move this money off the books and treat and fund it the same way the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were funded.Ugly Dougly wrote:cowboyangel wrote: This is great I think. The republicans are slitting their throats with a rusty razor called "the 1%" and that's great, now if only that fat faced cholesterol lunatic -Grover Norquist would choke on a chicken bone that would be icing on the cake. This intransigence to raise taxes on the rat fuck greed invested 1% will haunt them for the next decade. Thank you OWS for greasing the wheels of this epic failure!http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... agon-cuts/If members of Congress cannot implement a contingency plan, the Pentagon would have to bear half of the $1.2 trillion in budget cuts. The cuts would begin in 2013, when the Congressional Budget Office estimates that the Defense Department would have to slash 10 percent, or about $550 billion, from its budget. Combined with the $450 billion worth of cuts already planned, that would amount to $1 trillion in the next decade.
This is basically the budget that we used to fight in Yugoslavia and Desert Storm.
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Yes, they are still capable of moving money from the general budget to the war budget, in an "emergency" which can be anything.
We have troops in Africa as well as Australia now, BTW, and will probably get involved in Mexico.
And who knows, maybe Oakland as well.
We have troops in Africa as well as Australia now, BTW, and will probably get involved in Mexico.
And who knows, maybe Oakland as well.
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LOL Ya, they'd have to send the regular army to Oakland, all the National Guard are over in Afghanistan.Ugly Dougly wrote:Yes, they are still capable of moving money from the general budget to the war budget, in an "emergency" which can be anything.
We have troops in Africa as well as Australia now, BTW, and will probably get involved in Mexico.
And who knows, maybe Oakland as well.
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Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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I love that, Bob.
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Ugly Dougly wrote:Thanks, I am curious about the beginnings of this. Someplace, someone decided, hey this is a neat idea, and other people copied them, probably hungry for a commission and caring for little else.Box Burner wrote:
Robo-signing scandal may date back to late '90s
Google MERS
and Ellen Brown
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Who here doesn't agree with this message?
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Merci beaucoup.cowboyangel wrote:Ugly Dougly wrote:Thanks, I am curious about the beginnings of this. Someplace, someone decided, hey this is a neat idea, and other people copied them, probably hungry for a commission and caring for little else.Box Burner wrote:
Robo-signing scandal may date back to late '90s
Google MERS
and Ellen Brown
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OWS Mike Checked our commander in chief:
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He took it like a man.
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He took it like a man.
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like the world cup being remembered for annoying things like the vuvuzela
occupy movement will be remembered for annoying things like "the peoples microphone" ...among other stupid shit
occupy movement will be remembered for annoying things like "the peoples microphone" ...among other stupid shit
Don't link to anything here!