An agnostic burner’s point of view

[unjonharley]

But I like dancing around the golden calf.

Like, holly cow

[ygmir]

YOU FUCKOS DONT DESERVE THE TEN PRINCIPLES!

are those nubers 11 through 15?, now, I know why there's 10............

(stolen from Mel Brooks, IIRC)

[Bob]

Graidawg, were you aware this was the first Theme Camp?



Oh, and fuck the Temple.

[oneeyeddick]

This is a topic for declaration and conflict, rarely discussion. It's personal, and for myself, more and more I prefer to keep it a private choice. Who else needs to know what I've decided about this?

I am still waiting for an opportune moment to try to bend this discussion into a Dick joke.

[ygmir]

But I like dancing around the golden calf.

Like, holly cow

[graidawg]

Graidawg, were you aware this was the first Theme Camp?



Oh, and fuck the Temple.

no the first them camp was a drive by shooting camp as i understand it. and bob, fuck you the temple is nothing to do with beleiving in any god. if you think it is then you really should go and read what people say there or meet some of the temple guardians.

[Bob]

<sigh>

Again, unsurprising, coming from a theocratic monarchy.

I miss Pepe's Opera. The Opera totally kicked the Temple's ass.

[TomServo]

I'm curious if people still confuse agnostic with atheist?

[unjonharley]

YOU FUCKOS DONT DESERVE THE TEN PRINCIPLES!

are those nubers 11 through 15?, now, I know why there's 10............

(stolen from Mel Brooks, IIRC)

Some one took liberties with the translations.. They were not tablets.. They were bricks.. But I can see what happened to 11 through 15 when used to smash his brothers holly (golden) cow.. My brother was always smashing up my toys too

[Bob]

It's possible to believe from a de facto atheistic perspective that questions of God, spirituality, or any other scary ghosts are simply irrelevant to one's life, rather than anything to quibble over -- while reserving the political right to completely reject civic support of anything remotely religious.

[graidawg]

It's possible to believe from a de facto atheistic perspective that questions of God, spirituality, or any other scary ghosts are simply irrelevant to one's life, rather than anything to quibble over -- while reserving the political right to completely reject civic support of anything remotely religious.

what does that actually mean bob?

[Simon of the Playa]

it means sit down, shut up and listen to the voice of experience Mr. 2nd Year Metaphysical Meglomaniac.


not to belittle your fervency, far from it, it's cute, like a puppy chewing on the furniture.

dont fuck up my mid century american authentic eames piece or you're a dead man. i digress....


you'll be fine, just wait until 6th year disillusionment and seventh year rebirth, now theres an emotional roller coaster, i suggest you tone down the drinking for those.

[graidawg]

so opinions are only valid when you have how many years experience?
because you no what? i dont give a fuck. tell me to shut up and i will talk louder.
and its first year metaphysical megalomania and if you remembe my early posts i had already been there done that before i even got to the nevada desert, unlike the rest of you fuckos I have actually built a burning man. At an art festival, miles from the nearest city with no porta potties or running water so i am entitled to an opinion, don't even think of telling me I am not entitled to a voice, i dont use a sock to say what i am really thinking or hide my unpopular opinion behind an anonymous face. If i have something to say I say it personally not behind some protected anonymous facade.

simon this is not an attack on you,your socks are public and well known. others are not.

[Simon of the Playa]

no one is saying you dont have a voice, grai.....we value all voices in the cacophony of burning man.

also expect that others may rebut your opinion.


it's like speaker's corner in hyde park, except a lot raunchier and with more non-sequitars.

i for one, find the playa and eplaya very similar in many ways, most of them good.

and you'll find plenty of fuckos out there too, it really is, all in good fun...I also think the american and european sense of humor is different, very much so, and sometimes things get lost in the cultural translation that may be key to the understanding of what is said, especially when nuance is involved.

[graidawg]

no one is saying you dont have a voice, grai.....we value all voices in the cacophony of burning man.

also expect that others may rebut your opinion.


it's like speaker's corner in hyde park, except a lot raunchier and with more non-sequitars.

i for one, find the playa and eplaya very similar in many ways, most of them good.

and you'll find plenty of fuckos out there too, it really is, all in good fun...I also think the american and european sense of humor is different, very much so, and sometimes things get lost in the cultural translation that may be key to the understanding of what is said, especially when nuance is involved.

as oscar wilde said england and america are 2 countries speersted by a common language, I have encountered a few occasions were i have not been understood and not known why.
i respect the right to rebute and have learnt a lot by it, but please understand because of this very forum i find myself getting very, very angry when people are just (sorry) cunts.

i may live in

a theocratic monarchy.
.

but that does not mean i do not have the same access to news that you do, and an equivelant education on which to base it so if I want to express or make an opinion do not bellitle it.
or i will like foxfur at his recent party start burning the furniture.

ok time for me to chill out

[Elorrum]

This is a topic for declaration and conflict, rarely discussion. It's personal, and for myself, more and more I prefer to keep it a private choice. Who else needs to know what I've decided about this?

I am still waiting for an opportune moment to try to bend this discussion into a Dick joke.

It can be a Dick joke, and it could use a pickle.

[Simon of the Playa]

as you wish.

[Bob]

I was wondering aloud the other night -- who was more courageous, Christopher Hitchens, or the Pythons?

[youtube][/youtube]

Debate continues here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3GcPrW9xg (2/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGI9UevrzGc (3/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXmJHlqMvvE (4/4)

[ibdave]

This is a topic for declaration and conflict, rarely discussion. It's personal, and for myself, more and more I prefer to keep it a private choice. Who else needs to know what I've decided about this?

For me, I'm still (re)exploring and love what has been posted.
It's taking my head that has been spinning where it shouldn't be and giving it something else to focus on for the time being.
it's very personal for sure and maybe that's part of the problem.?

[Elorrum]

Thanks for the pickle
*crunch*

[5280MeV]

while reserving the political right to completely reject civic support of anything remotely religious.

I don't understand the view that the Temple is somehow supported by the government. I thought money flowed from BMorg to the BLM, not the other way around.

As I interpret the Bill of Rights, if the BLM is going to allow private organizations to rent out the desert for the purposes of erecting structures and burning them at private parties, then it must do so without any regard for the religious significance of the structure or lack thereof.

Unless you are offended by the BM community itself for failing to emulate something along the lines of the 1st Amendment by creating some sort of monument that loosely emulates a state religion. From my perspective, the Temple gains a sense of reverence more from the fact that people use it as a memorial for the deceased than the fact that various spiritual practices go on there. So it would bear more resemblance to something like Arlington National Cemetery than a state church.

[theCryptofishist]

Graidawg, were you aware this was the first Theme Camp?



Oh, and fuck the Temple.

I wonder if I still have his Christmas card from that year. Sitting on a cooler, with a rifle and two barely clad women in his lap. I wonder what that's worth on the market...

[Bob]

Requiring a Temple at Burning Man is like requiring a baseball game after a singing of the National Anthem, I suppose.

Somebody talk about agnosticism, please.

[theCryptofishist]

Maybe we can get Nicole Hyde in here to talk about "drag-noticism."
Or Vietnam vets who disliked, but did not hate, their lieutenants to talk about "frag-noticism."
Actually, maybe Nicole's more suited to talk about vag-nosticism, I'm not quite sure.

[Simon of the Playa]

how about Agnes-ticism

i vote for moorehead.

[cowboyangel]

I was wondering aloud the other night -- who was more courageous, Christopher Hitchens, or the Pythons?

[youtube][/youtube]

Debate continues here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3GcPrW9xg (2/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGI9UevrzGc (3/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXmJHlqMvvE (4/4)

Monty= Genius + Funny
Hitchens= Genius + Not Funny
Courageous?= Hitchens hands down, who else would dare publicly insult 13 Muslim Nations and expect to Live?

[Bob]

Probably a good thing they didn't name it the "Hitchens boson".

[unjonharley]

Bob, "the sofa"

Shit is ingrained into everything.

From the jewish laws.. First thing in the morning.. Break fast, first meal after fasting..

[theCryptofishist]

The fact that Ms. Moorehead didn't keep that beauty, is clear evidence that there is no god...

[Ugly Dougly]

I'm a follower of Jesus Murphy. Are my brethren here?