An agnostic burner’s point of view

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by Elderberry » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:43 pm

unjonharley wrote:
jkisha wrote:According to the National Academies, the figures cited in your survey are probably not correct. I didn't have a link to the articles anymore, but it seems that many scientist tend to lie when asked the 'do you believe' question. I'm sure that is the same for doctors too, though that is just my opinion.
It's hard for me to believe that a man that deals in the logic of science can believe that an empty void has some thing in it. Even the ones that deal in string and fuzzy. Empty void being in faith in........................ :arrow:
Ya, according to the articles I've read in The Academy's newsletter, most don't. But many lie about it if asked for mostly political reasons.
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by unjonharley » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:49 am

Triken wrote:
ygmir wrote:Surely, if angels do exist, their earthly manifestation is that of furniture.


so, are you implying that Bob is an angel???
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This has to be the post of the year 2011

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by unjonharley » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:58 am

jkisha wrote:
unjonharley wrote:
jkisha wrote:According to the National Academies, the figures cited in your survey are probably not correct. I didn't have a link to the articles anymore, but it seems that many scientist tend to lie when asked the 'do you believe' question. I'm sure that is the same for doctors too, though that is just my opinion.
It's hard for me to believe that a man that deals in the logic of science can believe that an empty void has some thing in it. Even the ones that deal in string and fuzzy. Empty void being in faith in........................ :arrow:
Ya, according to the articles I've read in The Academy's newsletter, most don't. But many lie about it if asked for mostly political reasons.
Yup, they have to do the right thing or no grants..

They better genuflex before the great catholic "The NewT" when he is crowned king of presidents..

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by 5280MeV » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:27 am

Political reasons, grants???

I have no idea where you are getting these ideas. I have written 15 page grant applications and there is nothing on them even resembling any sort of statement of faith. I am pretty sure that it is illegal to even ask. In fact, I do have any clue about the religious beliefs of about 85% of the professors in my physics department, including the professors that I work directly with.

I looked everywhere online, and there does not appear to be any information on any religion associated with the head of the Department of Energy, Steven Chu. I certainly have no idea about the administrators directly responsible for our grants, or anyone else from our funding agency. I have been to and presented at several conferences, and not once has a government agent shown any interest in anything other than my physics work.

I cannot emphasize enough the degree to which these people do not give a shit about our beliefs or personal life. They care about publications, impact factors, citations, interesting new physics, and staying within a budget.
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Post by JStep » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:17 am

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by unjonharley » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:32 am

5280,

No you will not find any religious ties to grants, published..

It's a dirty rotting game that is played out behind the scene..

If one religious zealot would publish,, Other religious tenical would scream with righteous indignation about church and start.. So it is kept on a line item veto bases..

The life saving stem cell research has suffered so much foot dragging the dust cover other grant denials.. Like the morning after pill.. Or holding grant that kave to do with the evolvement of man.. Those two have gone on scenes the 1930.. And the beat go's on around the world. The science for the advancement of man has been held back by religion from before the dark ages.. Physics, Try getting a grant to prove or disprove that aliens move those 45 ton stone at stone hinge.. Or the 150 ton stone on top of a 14000 ft. mountain in South America.. You will find out shortly that god put them there stones there.. The ""mesteries of a god" stick will beat your physics every time..

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Post by unjonharley » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:36 am

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

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unjonharley wrote:
jkisha wrote:According to the National Academies, the figures cited in your survey are probably not correct. I didn't have a link to the articles anymore, but it seems that many scientist tend to lie when asked the 'do you believe' question. I'm sure that is the same for doctors too, though that is just my opinion.
It's hard for me to believe that a man that deals in the logic of science can believe that an empty void has some thing in it. Even the ones that deal in string and fuzzy. Empty void being in faith in........................ :arrow:
I think that many scientists are so specialized that they never have to think about the empty void.*
With my father and nephew both being in gravitational physics/astronomy, it's not much of a problem in my family.





(*Although at this point I'm just pointing out the flaws, as I see them, in ujh's comment. I don't actually know what the status of most scientists' believe is.)
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

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Post by TomServo » Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:31 pm

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by TomServo » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:50 pm

Here's a link to the Cthulhu Salvation Program: http://kuoi.com/~kamikaze/Religion/salvation.php
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by MisaBlue » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:49 am

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It has some holes in it...
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by AntiM » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:00 am

I'm a muhamarra gal myself.

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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by ygmir » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:51 am

not seeing Nordic Pagan up there, Misa........*pout*.......
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:03 am

Thought this was fun too...
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by knowmad » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:35 pm

When you start a conversation about God with some one and you end up in a politcal debate you are talking to a jerk. when you begin a conversation about politics and end up in a debate about God you are talking to a pious jerk.
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Re: An agnostic burner’s point of view

Post by motskyroonmatick » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:06 am

MisaBlue wrote:Image


It has some holes in it...
Saw that at the bar tonight. Hilarious naturally.
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