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Re: Fuck!

Post by tamarakay » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:37 am

Well fuck, it does appear that I am the new target at work. Three co-workers fired for insubordination last two weeks and yesterday I get written up for "failure to take direction" and you guessed it, insubordination. Keep in mind that I work an internal i.t. helpdesk and I had to explain to my boss what HDD meant. This is after 12 years of glowing reviews. I bet when we can re-do the union vote thing it passes, though I doubt i'll still be here. There is a pattern, I can't go into it online.

So, we might be forced into decommodification here pretty quick. Only jobs in our little town paper are fry cook at dairy queen and night maid at LaQuinta. I can do both and still not make 1/2 of what I make now. Golden handcuffs, and if this goes the way that it did for my friends, it will be sooner rather than later and we won't be able to pay for the house. We have a small amount of reserve, but not near enough. Fuck.

Would be the shits to have to sell Kendoll's family land huh? Fuck. You have to swallow a lot of shit sometimes.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by gyre » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:20 am

Document everything, Tamara

Fucking everything!

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Re: Fuck!

Post by ygmir » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:24 am

well fuck, TK!!
I sure hope it works out......fuckin people.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by FIGJAM » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:45 am

tamarakay wrote:Well fuck, it does appear that I am the new target at work. Three co-workers fired for insubordination last two weeks and yesterday I get written up for "failure to take direction" and you guessed it, insubordination. Keep in mind that I work an internal i.t. helpdesk and I had to explain to my boss what HDD meant. This is after 12 years of glowing reviews. I bet when we can re-do the union vote thing it passes, though I doubt i'll still be here. There is a pattern, I can't go into it online.

So, we might be forced into decommodification here pretty quick. Only jobs in our little town paper are fry cook at dairy queen and night maid at LaQuinta. I can do both and still not make 1/2 of what I make now. Golden handcuffs, and if this goes the way that it did for my friends, it will be sooner rather than later and we won't be able to pay for the house. We have a small amount of reserve, but not near enough. Fuck.

Would be the shits to have to sell Kendoll's family land huh? Fuck. You have to swallow a lot of shit sometimes.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by Lassen Forge » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:59 am

I'd document the crap out of everything, the 12 good reviews, VS the latest one, the 3 who were just cut loose, etc... Sounds like they're downsizing, and the worthless fuck running what passes for HR is a spineless fuck who can't handle that aspect of their job. Fuck. Did your Chain of Command change recently, or ???

Hell, if it were me, I'd go up to one of the head honcho execs and ask, flat out, are you guys downsizing, if so, I'd rather know ahead of time than play a game so I can leave with a good record, rather than play some stupid silly game that will leave a bad taste in everyones mouth. (Yeah, I do stick my foot in it every so often!!) Just remember - they can lie like a fucking rug too, so you have to read their body language more than their lips.

Serious - I saved my job more than once by sidestepping the asshole and talking to someone informally like that, who honestly had NO idea this supervisor was doing dickishly illegal crap. But be ready to shake their hand, ask for their advice, and plan a hasty retreat if they give you the "Um... Yeah... but don't tell anyone, OK?"...

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Post by EspressoDude » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:28 am

damn..fkn new peeps coming in and making a name.. btw there are FAR MORE jobs in craig's list than in newspapers..The only folks that don't use cl much is he newspapers themselves
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Post by OregonRed » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:33 am

TK, fucking document!!! Try to get a hold of those glowing reviews from previous years and don't be afraid to go to an attorney specializing in employment law for advice. Bone up on your local labor laws, as well. In a situation like this one, knowledge is power.

I'm sorry, honey. What a stressful scary situation to be in. Fuck. (((((TK)))))
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Sham » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:37 am

TK, go on the offensive and slash the shit out of this douche nozzle. Make them look as bad as possible and then they will have a hard time getting rid of you. Fuck!

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Re: Fuck!

Post by Bin Noddin » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 am

Good fucking luck, TK. If they do can you, they'll try to say it was for cause and deny your unemployment benefits. In my experience, at least here in Maryland, the unemployment compensation hearing officers see through that bullshit and grant the compensation. Hopefully same in TX.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:55 am

*sends some good fcuking thoughts tk's way*

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Re: Fuck!

Post by jella » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:11 am

FUCKITY FUCK FUCK ((((TK))). I agree with document everything and stay a step ahead of them your crafty enough to make their head spin :wink:
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Mojojita » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:36 am

So sorry TK!!!! Make them be very specific in writing exactly what they consider to be "insubordination". Just say you need "more direction" in your review so you can alleviate the situation. With this amount of handwriting on the wall, get all the info you can. BB Sue has good advice.....
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Re: Fuck!

Post by AntiM » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:48 am

fuck, TK. Lot of good advice here, best of fucking luck with the dicketty dicks.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by wh..sh » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:51 am

I am fucking sorry to hear that TK! *hugs TK and everyone in Fuck thread**

Did they give you a reason for "insubordination" and support it with fact, numbers? If I were you, I would escalate the issue to manager or anyone higher... go as high as you can if you dont get response.
Bring it in open and demand "facts" that supports their stance. Also, have your facts ready as to why you think this is a false accusation.
This way, atleast it wouldnt be easy for them to move to, what they think as, the next best thing to do.

Fight for it TK! We cant control what will happen, but you can atleast take few of those b@#$!@$S down.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Drawingablank » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:28 pm

Damn, that fucking sucks TK. I have nothing to add to the advice above, but my best wishes to get you through this.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by trilobyte » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:43 pm

Oh no, sorry to hear it Tamarakay! Document, sidestep, and keep a level head when you do the sidestepping. Those above who hear it from you will be more inclined to listen if it's rational conversation and respectful expression of concern, plus it takes the wind out of the sails of any kind of bullshit insubordination the jerk's trying to sell. Thinking positive thoughts, and hoping for the best...

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Re: Fuck!

Post by Simon of the Playa » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:46 pm

hey TK if they dont give you your stapler let me know, i'll burn the fucking place down.
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Post by tamarakay » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:12 pm

I have a framed picture of him on my desk Simon.
Well Fuck, I made it through another day at work. Still fucking employed.
But, Fuck, about two weeks ago I submitted an idea to one of the assistant GM's at work (not my food chain) and today he called for me to come flesh out the idea with him. I fucking did, and about 1/2 way through the presentation he fucking stopped me and said "where's your spunk?" I just fucking smiled and kept going, so he stopped me again "where's that built in enthusiasm of yours?" and I had a full blown fucking panic attack. Fucking shaking, couldn't even talk. He was very fucking sweet and talked me through breathing with him. Calmed me down, then said "what" and boom, full on fucking panic attack again. Fuck. Talked me down again. What Boom several fucking times. He said we'd come back to it. I think I managed to stutter out scared, fired, mortgage, college and kids. He said we wouldn't talk about it anymore today. To go on as many walks as I needed to get through the day. Asked if i'd talked to HR BOOM. Calmed me down (hr is in the same food chain as me, not a warm and fucking fuzzy place). Anyway, he checked in several times. My direct fucking boss didn't even fucking talk to me all day.

But he did say my idea was brilliant.

And fucking thank you guys for the responses. You guys made me really smile for the first fucking time all day.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:31 pm

Fuck, sorry about the panic attacks. Hope you've found an ally.

Fuck, Jax never got her neck surgery...
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Post by tamarakay » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:38 pm

fuck. I want to sic Simon on the fucking insurance co. for Jax.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:40 pm

*has a fucking bizarre vision that involves Simon going to the offices and upholstering all the fucking executives...*
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Post by MyDearFriend » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:51 pm

(((TamaraKay))) Fuck that shit, seriously, and fuck the panic attacks too. :evil: No more advice to give you except, hang on to the out-of-your foodchain friend! Bake him some cookies. 8) Secret weapon here: when I do my xmas cookies I set aside some dozens of pre-shaped unbaked cookies in the freezer, so, I can bust them out when I really REALLY need fresh-baked cookies to set a favorable tone... totally unscrupulous but sweet-natured at the same time so, I doubt I will go to hell for that... :D :D :D

While you are at it, bake some cookies for your self. Therapeutic baking always helps me, I guess you can tell from my pudgy waist. :|

And, yeah I baked a cake on Monday and brownies last night, because, my dear dear brother has been diagnosed with prostate cancer :( at the age of 51 :( very aggressive, apparently: his PSA was more than his age. :( :( :( Not good.
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Post by moonrise » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:16 pm

I've been through that BS. I got legal advice, had allies and I WON and kept my J O B (i've since moved on by MY choice)

The manager quit not long after.

The whole thing helped discover and uncover alterior motives.

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Post by Elorrum » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:13 pm

Fuck all this stuff. I got in my car at lunch and had the urge to just go home, grab a sleeping bag and head for the hills.

hmmm. work stuff, tk, that sucks. I've been places where long term employees, making decent money, all of a sudden became insubordinate, had awful attendance, violated safety rules, and were fired in groups almost. I hate the fucking laziness of managing the bottom line through payroll: not waste, not margin, not damage, just payroll. Ask for clarification and direction, sincerely, and perhaps on record, if they had you sign anything. Document all conversations with superiors around this issue. Do not talk to your co-workers about it while at work. To new managers, grouses stick out. Cultivate the ones who appreciate you. cookies, great idea mdf.
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Post by EspressoDude » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:29 pm

All this documentation stuff is ok if you are in a gov't job, or possibly union protected contract.

Most private employment is "at will" and employees can be terminated for any reason including a bad hair day. Stirring things up by documenting, jumping the chain of command, etc. are more than enough reason by themselves.

Hunker down, stay under the manager's radar; and start looking for another job.

oh, and FUCK, I quit a committee I was working on because of internal politics. Sent in my notice this morning, won't be at tommorrow's meeting!! and I will sleep better.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by gyre » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:18 pm

There are other forms of recourse.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by Oldguy » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:07 pm

Fuck. The " Big E " left Norfolk at noon Sunday. My quess it is to counter the Russian Fleet in Syria's ports. One carrier group is off the " Hormuz ", two more off India. My nose is smelling SHTF.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by AntiM » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:33 am

All the battle groups have been rotating in and out ... well, more out than in, the deployments have been pushed up from six months to eight or more. But nothing is new, MyLarry spent months and months in the Persian Gulf and look what happened then .... oh yeah. Fuck.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by lucky420 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:12 am

Hello gang,
Haven't been by in a while because I am addicted to watching the ticket thread these days.

((MA)) glad you're okay but now you can put "hit by car and survived" on your list of "things that have happened to me"

((TK)) thnking of you and certainly hope your work week is better this week. Your boss sounds like a dick...
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Fufa » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:20 pm

Took my lil' bro to the ER today, thank goodness we have the biggest and best hospital in the city right on school campus. After lots of waiting, tests, and consults with a dozen different docs, they finally all agreed it was appendicitis and he went into surgery a couple hours ago. Such an exhausting day. He was pretty freaked out about it, but it looks like he's gonna be fine.

So this isn't really a "fuck" to us, but a "damn.... that's shitty". :|

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