BBadger wrote:You need to grow some thicker skin Muffin. You're not going to be babied here, and if you expect that you ought to delete your account right now and move on. At the very least use the plonking link in my signature to add whomever you feel you don't like, so at least you don't attract more--real--snark from your childish reactions.
Boijoy wrote:Hi Muffin. I think you are on the right track with your food ideas. You may want to consider purchasing a vaccuum sealer. These are great for general home use as well as Burning Man. I purchase something new for burning man every year. I started with a sealer, couple years ago it was a Kodiac tent & this year i've ordered a home canner. ( im jarring salsa, & grape leaves ) when you are packaging your meals you might consider making them small portions. That way you won't have to throw away alot of leftovers & stink up your trash. You will also want to bring LOTS of non perishable snaks. Cheers & happy preparing!
Even against the most skilled "sucker" I'd bet in the vacuum.Oldguy wrote:You can suck the air out of a baggie with a juice box straw.
LOL! Bob, you're such a bad boy!! *hugs*Bob wrote:That works for threads, too.
Follow my own advice on what? Plonking? Why would I bother? I'm not being negatively impacted here.KrisMuffin wrote:Thick skin? Shouldn't you follow your own advice? Why are you commenting? If being "babied " equals being treated with kindness you have serious issues. I would saying getting involved with more negative comments at this point is more childish than anything I've said on this board.
That would be a bad assumption. The playa is a high-altitude alkaline lake bed, and the alkaline dust that makes up the playa is a desiccant - it doesn't care if it's 90 or 60 degrees, it's still going to be sucking the moisture out of you and you won't realize it. Your body may react by craving more food than normal, or less, or even the amount you normally eat, but you won't know until you've gone; and if you're dehydrated or exhausted and you have to cook that meal, you may be in a spot of trouble. Plan multiple ways to eat- easy cook, no cook, even super-fancy if you want; just make sure to give yourself options.KrisMuffin wrote:Though i havent been to BM I've attended aome 4 to 5 day festivals in 90 degree weather and I ate onnce a day and I had to make myself. I would assume it will be the same in the desert.
BBadger wrote:Follow my own advice on what? Plonking? Why would I bother? I'm not being negatively impacted here.KrisMuffin wrote:Thick skin? Shouldn't you follow your own advice? Why are you commenting? If being "babied " equals being treated with kindness you have serious issues. I would saying getting involved with more negative comments at this point is more childish than anything I've said on this board.
"Kindness" is very open to interpretation. Parents can think themselves "kind" by not punishing their children when they misbehave--but those parents are really only setting up their children for failure when real life hits. You can be taught by some "kind" ballet teacher who lets you wear the tutu, and prance around with sickled points--but that's because the teacher is just accepting money to make you a mediocre "ballet princess." Who is really being "kind" here?
We could be likewise "kind" and show you our indifference. Give you a "Cool idea bro" so to speak. Then you could walk away all happy thinking your idea is significant, or that someone actually took any time to even bother with it.
But it's not like that here. You asked us what we thought, and some of us told you. Don't want negative opinions, why did you ask?
Or maybe you think we're just being mean in the way we don't sugar-coat the responses. Well too bad. Rather than thinking that people are just being mean with some of their responses, try considering why negative comments are being directed towards you. "Ever camped? Anywhere?" basically implies "No, that's a dumb idea, by someone who doesn't seem to understand much about camping."
If that's the case here, maybe you're out of your league. You have a choice at this crossroads: try to learn something, or stamp your foot and keep seeking validation for your ideas.
If the latter, you probably ought to just delete your account right now, because dumb ideas don't get validated here.
Eric,Thank you very much for the advice. I've read many accounts and talked to some friends who've gone, and all have said they eat a lot less, but im sure everyone is different. I spent some time in Egypt and there I ate once a day maybe. But you're right, who knows how I will react when I'm out there as the environment seems to be different than a typical desert. That's why I wanted to bring a few comfort dishes that I know I will eat, as i try to avoid a lot of canned food in my normal life (except for green bean. Love them. LoL) I already have my shopping list of food, and most are dry goods that wont need refrigeration. I thought about making a solar oven to reheat items and keep them from getting to super dusty, but I'm not married to that idea yet.Eric wrote:That would be a bad assumption. The playa is a high-altitude alkaline lake bed, and the alkaline dust that makes up the playa is a desiccant - it doesn't care if it's 90 or 60 degrees, it's still going to be sucking the moisture out of you and you won't realize it. Your body may react by craving more food than normal, or less, or even the amount you normally eat, but you won't know until you've gone; and if you're dehydrated or exhausted and you have to cook that meal, you may be in a spot of trouble. Plan multiple ways to eat- easy cook, no cook, even super-fancy if you want; just make sure to give yourself options.KrisMuffin wrote:Though i havent been to BM I've attended aome 4 to 5 day festivals in 90 degree weather and I ate onnce a day and I had to make myself. I would assume it will be the same in the desert.
I eat far less than normal out there (2-3 small meals, +snacks), but I know people who eat more than they normally do. If they packed like I do, they would be very hungry a few days into BMan, and run out of food well before the weekend. For your first year I personally would bring more than you think you'll need to give yourself coverage, you can start adjusting quantity in the future.
As for low waste- like a couple people have mentioned, use what you're familiar with. Anything that doesn't need to be refrigerated until after it's opened (if ever) is perfect. It gets warm during the day- if you're near a vehicle, set canned food inside near the window or, if you don't, put it where it's going to get sun (and not be visible from the street). Leave it while you go wander, come back in a couple of hours- warm food. Not glamorous, but food.
Dear Bob,Bob wrote:BB, please don't put words in my mouth; just means I'm curious about people's usual camping habits, or lack thereof, in the context of what they're asking. And that I value honesty, and radical mercy. Yeah, I'm spiritual that way.
Great advice Eric, though I'll leave the whole "alkaline playa" thing alone (ie it's mostly the airborne clay that kills you and your stuff, not the tiny amount of alkaline minerals).
