She is mine you commy pinko! YOU CANT HAVE HER! She is the Pink in my Flamingo,,, the Pleasure in my Pain! I challenge you to a DUEL!!! PEEPS at TWENTY PACES with our dildo catapults! Otherwise,,,, GET YER OWN PINK!!!!(By way, with name like "pink" you should to be living in socialist paradise on playa...)
We won one of the Earth Guardian awards last year. The prize was two gift tickets. One of the things our camp has never been able to afford is any type of solar power. Last year I noticed ticket raffles after BM sold out. One of the ideas presented was doing a raffle with these tickets to raise money for a solar system to power our lights at night.catinthefunnyhat wrote:As a relative newbie, my opinion is maybe not that relevant, but their raffle post did make me uncomfortable, especially since I loved everything else about their camp concept (assuming we're talking about the same camp/raffle/post). I was curious as to whether there was any precedent for such a raffle as well as how "kosher" it was; I'm glad I wasn't alone, and I'm glad you made the inquiry.Trishntek wrote:After making an inquiry about a theme camp RAFFLING a BM2012 TICKET to raise funds, I discover this is actually a tradition with some camps who have been doing it for years. This particular ticket being raffled was not obtained via the Directed Allotment.
How does anyone feel about raffling tickets for the purpose of fund raising?
I guess raffling a ticket was a very different kind of thing back when supply > demand. At that time, the value of the prize was essentially the face value of the ticket; now, it's immeasurably greater. What makes me particularly uncomfortable is the idea that a bigger donation grants more chances to win. Of course, the person who donates just $10 still has a chance of winning, but it still feels a bit like a sale to the highest bidder. I think maybe I'd be okay with it if everyone got just one entry in the raffle, regardless of how much they donated. I suspect the camp could still raise just as much money, but from more people.
Again, these are the gut feelings and embryonic thoughts of a relative newbie to both the physical and electronic playas, so take them with whatever dose of salt you feel necessary.
Something that makes me wonder:“Adventure” outfits (defined as purely commercial businesses offering a full service camp experience that have no connection to our culture and community) providing “a Burning Man Experience” are not considered to be Plug and Play camps, and as of this year they will no longer be allowed at the event.
I would ask the following: What impact do you really want to create?It has long been a goal of the Burning Man organization to affect the default world, creating lasting impacts that change the way people live their daily lives.
Yes.5280MeV wrote:Are we really talking about something more?
People spending huge amounts of money to have their burn handed to them will hopefully come across others who don't. They may come across camps and meet people who are conscious of what they consume & careful not to waste.5280MeV wrote:How?
Okay, this is the sort of stuff that makes me cynical about the llc. They put something on the blog about how they want to make "p&p camps" a bigger part of the burn, and as far as I know they get a lot of outrage from the "community" (drink). So then, they put something else on the blog, supposedly as a clarification "oh we didn't mean that sort of plug and play, that sort of plug and play isn't welcome (not even as strangers), but the other kind must be assimilated integrated."5280MeV wrote:“Adventure” outfits (defined as purely commercial businesses offering a full service camp experience that have no connection to our culture and community) providing “a Burning Man Experience” are not considered to be Plug and Play camps, and as of this year they will no longer be allowed at the event.
Yeah, I don't get it either.5280MeV wrote:Something that makes me wonder:
It has long been a goal of the Burning Man organization to affect the default world, creating lasting impacts that change the way people live their daily lives.
It's when the llc talks about the burn changing the lives of participants that they are least attractive. Really, this is when the sacred clowns of the playa should be lampooning them with the harpoons of their wits.Luis Bunuel wrote:I'm often asked whatever happened to surrealism in the end. It's a tough question, but sometimes I say that the movement was successful in its details and a failure in its essentials. Breton, Eluard, and Aragon are among the best French writers in this century; their books have prominent positions on all library shelves. The work of Ernst, Magritte, Dali is famous, high-priced, and hangs prominently in museums. There's no doubt that surrealism was a cultureal and artistic success; but these were precisely the areas of least importance to most surrealists. Their aim was not to establish a glorious place for themselves in the annals of art and literature, but to change the world, to transform life itself. That was our essential purpose, but one good look around is evidence enough of our failure.
Needless to say, any other outcome was impossible. Today, we see the place of surrealism in the world as infinitesimal. Like the earth itself, devoured by monumental dreams, we were nothing--just a small group of insolent intellectuals who argued interminably in cafes and published a journal; a handful of idealists, easily divided where action was concerned.
This might not be the best place to find a "plug and play" camp, as we don't seem to like them and aren't about to give our contact info, if we have it.bkennedy450 wrote:hi, interested, but want some more info. first timer, old timer, shy, but interested in some new experiences.suggestions?
