Oli does cross-marketing and promotional work for Krug.
Oli works for Carl, Carl is Krug’s brand director.
Krug hired Oli to organize and publicize the dinner and photo shoot.
Oli and Krug hired Silkstone to manage the dinner, Silkstone owns Fat Radish.
Oli and Krug pre-sold the magazine and photo shoot to Town & Country and W Magazine.
Oli and Krug invited professional photographers to shoot the dinner.
Oli and Krug invited and arranged for brand loyalists and society bloggers to attend the dinner.
Oli and his team built Zoo Camp as a staging area for dinner “guests.”
And then Oli, Zoo Camp, and SilkStone left a gigantic mess for Burning Man to clean up.
This was not a mistake, or an oversight, or one person’s spur-of-the-moment idea. This was a carefully coordinated, expensive, and well-planned marketing campaign, and its directors and participants worked carefully to hide the campaign from the Burning Man organizers.
And then Oli has the gall to say he’s “open to forgiveness and ready to move forward.” I’m sure he is. Whether the Burning Man community is ready to forgive Oli remains to be seen. if Oli truly understood and cared about Burning Man, he’d respect our rules and priinciples instead of breaking them and lying to us. The “human solution” is to ban Oli and Zoo Camp from all future Burning Man events.
Party mess on deep playa, art?
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
Camp needing sycophants. Too few of our employees were able to obtain tickets this year. Hem touching access to the very best people.


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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
sgt schultz camps at zoo camp!?

say it aint so "Oli"

say it aint so "Oli"
Don't link to anything here!
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
wierd page, didn't seem to work right, but I tried.
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
one can get 10 bottles of cheap vodka for the price of 1 bottle of that krug shit.
so.. someone could give 40 people a buzz or get maybe 1 person drunk
for the same price.
fuck that krug shit.
this is burning man damnit, who the hell is drinking for the taste ?!
so.. someone could give 40 people a buzz or get maybe 1 person drunk
for the same price.
fuck that krug shit.
this is burning man damnit, who the hell is drinking for the taste ?!
Don't link to anything here!
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
yes Yggy, it appears Krug has stopped accepting comments or contact as of last night...
Burners sure are Intranetty saavy and prolific, i tell ya...
Burners sure are Intranetty saavy and prolific, i tell ya...

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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
the contact page is back up.
sent them this:
I hope your vineyards dry up to be as barren as the desert you disgraced at Burning Man!
sent them this:
I hope your vineyards dry up to be as barren as the desert you disgraced at Burning Man!
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?

Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
"Let us say I suggest you may be human." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
If you beat a dead horse long enough you can start poking at its entrails, and before long you are practicing the ancient Etruscan art of Haruspex, or divination by inspecting a pile of bloody organs. I believe that we have reached this point, and so I am excited to continue the conversation!
I think that we have arrived at a nexus here - at the very heart (tee-hee!) of the matter. Plug and play was a pretty good early theory - like the Bohr theory of the atom - but it doesn't really capture the essence of what everyone, old burners, new burners, or even burners yearning to burn for the first time, is so terribly annoyed about.
What is amazing, after reading the comments on the burning blog post about this, http://blog.burningman.com/2012/05/tenp ... /#comments, is the audacity of the Zoo camp apologetics. It all centers around being loving, nonjudgemental, etc. At the same time, perhaps the most inconsiderate MV on the playa - the subject of all sorts of complaints, the dreaded stick monster - is either a member of the camp or affiliated with the event!
My point is, the actions of this camp are inconsiderate in almost every possible manner. The apologetic comments on the Burning Blog seem to beg people to not be judgmental, to just love them - because that is apparently what Burning Man is all about - an environment in which no matter how much you shit on your neighbors, they will smile and love you unconditionally.
This is exactly the psychology of a toddler.
Not only that, the level of self-reliance is consistent with that of a toddler. In the blog of one blissfully unaware housewife attending the party (http://www.taryncoxthewife.com/?p=9769) one sees a level of understanding of the environment around her approximately on the level of a toddler.
Another point worth bringing up is that I understand that Zoo camp provided costumes. Forget any sense of self-expression, everything is done for you - you don't even have to be creative. So there is no real learning or growth going on here. No need to explore ones actual individuality, to face the elements on your own, to understand your inner artist, to tackle challenges. Growth is stunted. But how?
Most people don't want to act as a toddler, or at least don't want to be perceived as acting in such a manner. I believe that this is where the champagne comes in. One thing that some of these camps somewhere in the PnP spectrum seem to have in common is luxury and access to "exclusive" MVs and events. This is required to create the illusion of superiority, to enable one to act as an inconsiderate child and yet still feel above the average person. Without that, the whole thing just becomes embarrassing.
Like it or not, from the evidence provided I think that this phenomenon is not uncommon BRC and has been going on for years. However, it lacks a good name. There are other annoying and potentially dangerous behaviors that people engage in at BM, and they are called sparkleponies, darkwads, and other clever names. I have not heard a compelling name for the phenomenon that I am describing.
I suggest the following: "Champagne Toddler"
Disclaimer: I apologize in advance to any adult babies or other practitioners of that sort of kink who may be offended by this post or feel that I am in any way referring to them. When it comes to self-expression, you guys are 100 times more radical and burnier than me.
Appendix (haha... get it?): I am somewhat concerned that "Champagne Toddler" does not roll off the tongue well enough. Perhaps "Toddler-bubbly" would work? Please give me your feedback and suggestions.
I think that we have arrived at a nexus here - at the very heart (tee-hee!) of the matter. Plug and play was a pretty good early theory - like the Bohr theory of the atom - but it doesn't really capture the essence of what everyone, old burners, new burners, or even burners yearning to burn for the first time, is so terribly annoyed about.
What is amazing, after reading the comments on the burning blog post about this, http://blog.burningman.com/2012/05/tenp ... /#comments, is the audacity of the Zoo camp apologetics. It all centers around being loving, nonjudgemental, etc. At the same time, perhaps the most inconsiderate MV on the playa - the subject of all sorts of complaints, the dreaded stick monster - is either a member of the camp or affiliated with the event!
My point is, the actions of this camp are inconsiderate in almost every possible manner. The apologetic comments on the Burning Blog seem to beg people to not be judgmental, to just love them - because that is apparently what Burning Man is all about - an environment in which no matter how much you shit on your neighbors, they will smile and love you unconditionally.
This is exactly the psychology of a toddler.
Not only that, the level of self-reliance is consistent with that of a toddler. In the blog of one blissfully unaware housewife attending the party (http://www.taryncoxthewife.com/?p=9769) one sees a level of understanding of the environment around her approximately on the level of a toddler.
Another point worth bringing up is that I understand that Zoo camp provided costumes. Forget any sense of self-expression, everything is done for you - you don't even have to be creative. So there is no real learning or growth going on here. No need to explore ones actual individuality, to face the elements on your own, to understand your inner artist, to tackle challenges. Growth is stunted. But how?
Most people don't want to act as a toddler, or at least don't want to be perceived as acting in such a manner. I believe that this is where the champagne comes in. One thing that some of these camps somewhere in the PnP spectrum seem to have in common is luxury and access to "exclusive" MVs and events. This is required to create the illusion of superiority, to enable one to act as an inconsiderate child and yet still feel above the average person. Without that, the whole thing just becomes embarrassing.
Like it or not, from the evidence provided I think that this phenomenon is not uncommon BRC and has been going on for years. However, it lacks a good name. There are other annoying and potentially dangerous behaviors that people engage in at BM, and they are called sparkleponies, darkwads, and other clever names. I have not heard a compelling name for the phenomenon that I am describing.
I suggest the following: "Champagne Toddler"
Disclaimer: I apologize in advance to any adult babies or other practitioners of that sort of kink who may be offended by this post or feel that I am in any way referring to them. When it comes to self-expression, you guys are 100 times more radical and burnier than me.
Appendix (haha... get it?): I am somewhat concerned that "Champagne Toddler" does not roll off the tongue well enough. Perhaps "Toddler-bubbly" would work? Please give me your feedback and suggestions.

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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
Krugite?
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
I do love how she has a photo of the "exclusive" art car, and then a photo illustrating that bicycles are the "only practical" means of transportation on playa.
wtf?
wtf?
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
I'm guessing her perceptions were heavily mediated by her procurers. Before her page broke my browser I noted her describing the long table setup as being "2 miles outside the playa". More accurately, that long table setup was about two decades out of style.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
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Bob wrote:I'm guessing her perceptions were heavily mediated by her procurers. Before her page broke my browser I noted her describing the long table setup as being "2 miles outside the playa". More accurately, that long table setup was about two decades out of style.
Two miles outside the playa?

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It's OBVIOUS!
i've done some research, talked to some people, especially one source in the know, we'll call him/her "Deep Cork", anyway
"DC" has proof that this was a classic False Flag Operation set up by Larry and Cabal to discredit Manhattanites, Models, Caterers, Fancy Winers and AdMen.
they'll never serve crisp thai pickled string bean canapes in THIS town again...
well played BMORG, Well Played.
"DC" has proof that this was a classic False Flag Operation set up by Larry and Cabal to discredit Manhattanites, Models, Caterers, Fancy Winers and AdMen.
they'll never serve crisp thai pickled string bean canapes in THIS town again...
well played BMORG, Well Played.
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
..
Once I noticed I was on fire, I decided to relax and enjoy the fall™
Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
I've read about this on several places online. Crappy thing to do.
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
Simon, we have to disown SoCal every fucking day, otherwise people would confuse Burning Man with one of their raves and shit.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
Transport to and from: Reno / Las Vegas(limited) / San Francisco (limited)
3 Meals a Day (Vegetarian Options Available)
Camping Equipment
Water, Snacks and Alcoholic Drinks
Generator, Electricity, Petrol, Fuel
Outdoor Showers
Private Camp Portaloos
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2 Nights Accommodation in Reno (1 night before and after the event)
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Optional extras available upon request: Flights to and from Black Rock City, Segways for the Playa. You are responsible for purchasing a Burning Man ticket and we encourage you to do so as soon as possible as tickets are likely to sell out again this year (probably faster than ever before)!
3 Meals a Day (Vegetarian Options Available)
Camping Equipment
Water, Snacks and Alcoholic Drinks
Generator, Electricity, Petrol, Fuel
Outdoor Showers
Private Camp Portaloos
Burning Man Bicycle
Camp Decoration
Private Chill0ut Space and Community Areas
Access to The Best Art Cars on The Playa
2 Nights Accommodation in Reno (1 night before and after the event)
Unique Camp Activities
** Fees do not include: Burning Man ticket, Flights to Reno/Las Vegas/SF, Insurance, fancy dress costumes
Optional extras available upon request: Flights to and from Black Rock City, Segways for the Playa. You are responsible for purchasing a Burning Man ticket and we encourage you to do so as soon as possible as tickets are likely to sell out again this year (probably faster than ever before)!
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
Simon of the Playa wrote:yes, and evidently they plan on coming back...
http://burningman.eventbrite.com/
I did a bit of poking around on those G360 guys a while back. Very interesting - part of the "Stiglitz" school of leadership and creativity. They offer the Dreamer's Camp as an adventure classroom of sorts. Camp dues were about $1350 in 2011 (875 pounds). Closely linked to some sort of wealth creation guru - Dr. John Demartini - who offers trademarked methods and expensive 3 day seminars and cruises.

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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
now we are getting somewhere...
as "deep cork" told me....
"follow the honey"...
as "deep cork" told me....
"follow the honey"...
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
"10 principles? you cant HANDLE the 10 principles..."
Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
While they do mention a "synergy with" Camp Zoo, I don't think we can honestly say they are the same people much less guilty of last year's Krugging. Sure it's an obvious commercial plug and play camp but that's not really the particular crime we're rabbling about here.
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Re: Party mess on deep playa, art?
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*Have more fulfilling relationships and create more love in your life;
*See the power you already possess as a natural leader;
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*Experience awe at the wonders around you every day;
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