Nudity at Black Rock...
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Nudity at Black Rock...
the other 50 weeks of the year...
is this allowed?
is this allowed?
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
nudity on the playa is great. I'm a nudist and the disconnection from the textile world is wonderful.
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
If a person walks naked through the desert and there's no one there to be offended, is it still illegal?
My understanding is that laws pertaining to obscenity exist and are normally enforced in Nevada. The reason some things are different in BRC is a nebulous concept called "community standards". Nudity is a form of Radical Self Expression, and therefore in line with the community standards of Burning Man. Because of this LEO's don't attempt to write tickets or prosecute people who walk around in states of undress in BRC that would normally get them arrested in other places.
My opinion is that the other 50 weeks of the year you don't have the city there so you lose the "community standards" defense. YMMV, IANAL, etc.
Short answer, I'd guess not, but how many people do you expect to run into out there to arrest you for it?
My understanding is that laws pertaining to obscenity exist and are normally enforced in Nevada. The reason some things are different in BRC is a nebulous concept called "community standards". Nudity is a form of Radical Self Expression, and therefore in line with the community standards of Burning Man. Because of this LEO's don't attempt to write tickets or prosecute people who walk around in states of undress in BRC that would normally get them arrested in other places.
My opinion is that the other 50 weeks of the year you don't have the city there so you lose the "community standards" defense. YMMV, IANAL, etc.
Short answer, I'd guess not, but how many people do you expect to run into out there to arrest you for it?
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
BLM rangers have visited every time I've camped out there, since the mid-90s. Judge Phil, the local Washoe County justice of the peace, used to stop by too {drink}. Never heard of them making an issue of it.
Naked in the town of Gerlach is another thing altogether. Especially if you're naked and loud. Even more especially if you're a loud, naked, petulant Frenchman waltzing into Bruno's gas station demanding that they refill a truckload of DPW propane tanks ASAP, and light up a huge joint right next to the guy as he's hooking up to the first tank. Yeah, we were hard up for volunteers that year.
Naked in the town of Gerlach is another thing altogether. Especially if you're naked and loud. Even more especially if you're a loud, naked, petulant Frenchman waltzing into Bruno's gas station demanding that they refill a truckload of DPW propane tanks ASAP, and light up a huge joint right next to the guy as he's hooking up to the first tank. Yeah, we were hard up for volunteers that year.
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
I thought that nebulous concept behind allowing nudity at Burning Man is that it's a private event.Straightveg wrote:If a person walks naked through the desert and there's no one there to be offended, is it still illegal?
My understanding is that laws pertaining to obscenity exist and are normally enforced in Nevada. The reason some things are different in BRC is a nebulous concept called "community standards". Nudity is a form of Radical Self Expression, and therefore in line with the community standards of Burning Man. Because of this LEO's don't attempt to write tickets or prosecute people who walk around in states of undress in BRC that would normally get them arrested in other places.
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
probably depends on whom you ask:gaminwench wrote:the other 50 weeks of the year...
is this allowed?
I personally would encourage you.
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
As a staunch never nude, i wish EVERYBODY would be decent and modest.
I really dont want to see that.
However thats not my place to say anything to each his own.
Just keep your cheese filled ass cracks off my goddamn furniture please.
I really dont want to see that.
However thats not my place to say anything to each his own.
Just keep your cheese filled ass cracks off my goddamn furniture please.
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What that has to do with Wagner, I don't know...
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
"1. Public nudity is prohibited at all: (1) developed camping and picnicking areas containing items such as a table or toilet facility, (2) visitor centers, and (3) all ORV open areas."
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/cdd/cdd_ ... ntary.html
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/06/10 ... -1630.html
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/cdd/cdd_ ... ntary.html
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/06/10 ... -1630.html
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
Thank you all for your thoughts...
Zeke... thanks for the links, but 'our' desert isn't in the California district; I've researched both Nevada and Federal and have found nothing conclusive.
Simon... I've always wanted to participate in one of Spencer's projects!
Bob... thank you for your useful, real world insight!
UD & Ygmir... nekkid it is!
We'll be in Black Rock for the next couple of weeks, for some unscheduled, non-event, explosive fiery playatime (wink)...
I'll report back in this thread to let ya'll know how we're received.
Zeke... thanks for the links, but 'our' desert isn't in the California district; I've researched both Nevada and Federal and have found nothing conclusive.
Simon... I've always wanted to participate in one of Spencer's projects!
Bob... thank you for your useful, real world insight!
UD & Ygmir... nekkid it is!
We'll be in Black Rock for the next couple of weeks, for some unscheduled, non-event, explosive fiery playatime (wink)...
I'll report back in this thread to let ya'll know how we're received.
"the prophecies of doom were better last year" trilo
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
Really?gaminwench wrote:We'll be in Black Rock for the next couple of weeks, for some unscheduled, non-event, explosive fiery playatime (wink)...
I'll report back in this thread to let ya'll know how we're received.
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Back from the playa, and happy to say that nekkid is just fine!
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
Yay! Oh, yay!
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
oh GW...........how lucky the masses there.
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
There were no masses there...
silent, open, empty, gorgeous desert;
we were camped in the center, alone.
No perimeter, no neighbors, no boots-n-pants.
Playa folk stopped by to rest in our lovely shady dome, sit on God's throne, fly kites and contemplate the serenity.
yummmmm....
silent, open, empty, gorgeous desert;
we were camped in the center, alone.
No perimeter, no neighbors, no boots-n-pants.
Playa folk stopped by to rest in our lovely shady dome, sit on God's throne, fly kites and contemplate the serenity.
yummmmm....
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
= Nirvanagaminwench wrote:There were no masses there...
silent, open, empty, gorgeous desert;
we were camped in the center, alone.
No perimeter, no neighbors, no boots-n-pants.
Playa folk stopped by to rest in our lovely shady dome, sit on God's throne, fly kites and contemplate the serenity.
yummmmm....
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
you shoulda been there, Yg...
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I dinna get no invite.......but yeah, wish I were there.........
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Re: Nudity at Black Rock...
surely no one would turn you away?????
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Glad you had a good time.
Amazing desert structures & stuff: http://sites.google.com/site/potatotrap/
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Decency laws are generally city ordinance and not regulated by County, State or Federal gubmint.
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Yes yes, but were there any fiery or splodey moments?gaminwench wrote:There were no masses there...
silent, open, empty, gorgeous desert;
we were camped in the center, alone.
No perimeter, no neighbors, no boots-n-pants.
Playa folk stopped by to rest in our lovely shady dome, sit on God's throne, fly kites and contemplate the serenity.
yummmmm....
Umm, I'll gladly see it in your place and won't tell you a thing about it, m'kay?Roberto Dobbisano wrote:As a staunch never nude, i wish EVERYBODY would be decent and modest.
I really dont want to see that.
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They are if you live behind the zion curtain.Trishntek wrote:Decency laws are generally city ordinance and not regulated by County, State or Federal gubmint.
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I lived SIX YEARS behind the Zion Curtain. You ain't tellin' me nuthin' new,,, we called 'em the sphincter police.
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Might be a thing of the past if Pershing county has its way, according to todays (August 17th) Reno newspapaer. www.rgj.com
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