Ticket Distribution
Ticket Distribution
I find the following statement from JRS (Jack Rabbit Speaks) to be somewhat disconcerting! I hope indeed that what we have seen this year vis à vis ticket sales and distribution is not indicative of this year's burn, and even more so, of the future of the Burning Man LLC and/or the Burning Man Project. Like I mean just how many years has BMorg been sending out tickets? Could we at least have an explanatory comment about why it has "taken longer than we anticipated..."
"Sending out this many tickets is a highly labor-intensive process that has taken longer than we anticipated, but our ticket vendor has been cranking through them just as fast as they can."
After last year's (2011) technical glitches, it doesn't seem to to me that we are getting any closer to anything like a better and fairer system. Do we have a new and therefore less experienced ticket vendor this year? Even so, with the many past years of ticket mailings behind them it would seem to me that the BMOrg ticket "overseers" should have been able to allow for the length of time required to "Play it again...Hairy! Once more from the top, please!"!
I speak as one who has yet to receive his tickets (as of 07/15), is unhappy with the new early payment late delivery mandate and is seeing more and more inklings of the gradual disintegration of an organization that at one time I felt deserved nothing but kudos for the excellent job they have done in the past of "pulling off" an event that has astronomically greater probability of failure than of success! E.g., How in the world is it possible that the population count was over limit last year? Without an extensive, expensive and exclusive lobbying effort in Washington this spring, it is highly probable that this year's permit would not have been issued. Perhaps next year, in order to forestall that expense (and/or to be more "all inclusive") in the future, the Burn should convene on the Mall (that's right...the Washington DC Mall)!
Any thoughts of returning to the January call-in system and let the chips fall where they will?
"Sending out this many tickets is a highly labor-intensive process that has taken longer than we anticipated, but our ticket vendor has been cranking through them just as fast as they can."
After last year's (2011) technical glitches, it doesn't seem to to me that we are getting any closer to anything like a better and fairer system. Do we have a new and therefore less experienced ticket vendor this year? Even so, with the many past years of ticket mailings behind them it would seem to me that the BMOrg ticket "overseers" should have been able to allow for the length of time required to "Play it again...Hairy! Once more from the top, please!"!
I speak as one who has yet to receive his tickets (as of 07/15), is unhappy with the new early payment late delivery mandate and is seeing more and more inklings of the gradual disintegration of an organization that at one time I felt deserved nothing but kudos for the excellent job they have done in the past of "pulling off" an event that has astronomically greater probability of failure than of success! E.g., How in the world is it possible that the population count was over limit last year? Without an extensive, expensive and exclusive lobbying effort in Washington this spring, it is highly probable that this year's permit would not have been issued. Perhaps next year, in order to forestall that expense (and/or to be more "all inclusive") in the future, the Burn should convene on the Mall (that's right...the Washington DC Mall)!
Any thoughts of returning to the January call-in system and let the chips fall where they will?
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Re: Ticket Distribution
SHUT UP, HIPPIE.
No, seriously. Sit down and eat your beans. If you don't like it, don't go.
Simple as that.
No, seriously. Sit down and eat your beans. If you don't like it, don't go.
Simple as that.
Savannah wrote:It sounds freaky & wrong, so you need to do it.
- theCryptofishist
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Re: Ticket Distribution
Oh crap. The last thing I want is a bunch of senators and representatives looking over the trash fence and judging our event. Talk about spectators.
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Re: Ticket Distribution
some, Fishy, are already here...........theCryptofishist wrote:Oh crap. The last thing I want is a bunch of senators and representatives looking over the trash fence and judging our event. Talk about spectators.
there.........
then.
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- theCryptofishist
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Re: Ticket Distribution
Yeah, but they're not looking out over the trash fence on the fucking mall for heaven's sake...
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
Re: Ticket Distribution
Junglesnacks,
Good advice! How come you don't heed it?
There is a better than even chance that I will not be going this year!
theCryptofishist,
The idea is to include all those Senators and Congress types! They don't accomplish much more than the Burn anyway, one of the finest features of which is that (unlike Congress) it is not mean't to "accomplish" anything!
Good advice! How come you don't heed it?
There is a better than even chance that I will not be going this year!
theCryptofishist,
The idea is to include all those Senators and Congress types! They don't accomplish much more than the Burn anyway, one of the finest features of which is that (unlike Congress) it is not mean't to "accomplish" anything!
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Re: Ticket Distribution
I'm typing very loudly and in bright colors, this is a valid rhetorical technique, are you persuaded yet!!??
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Re: Ticket Distribution
I find the post from DW to be totally concerting. He calls'em as he sees'em. There has been sloppiness. Why concern ourselves about the who and why and concentrate instead on avoiding further such silliness.
Finkmann
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Re: Ticket Distribution
It isn't a question of having heads roll, its a question of having heads capable of carrying out the business at hand; this amateur hour garbage does no one any favors.[email protected] wrote:I find the post from DW to be totally concerting. He calls'em as he sees'em. There has been sloppiness. Why concern ourselves about the who and why and concentrate instead on avoiding further such silliness.
Finkmann
Yes this year will be amazing, but it's going to be the people that make it amazing. I'm amazed the org is still walking, considering how many times it has shot itself in the foot over the past seven months. So the fun will almost be had despite their best efforts.
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Re: Ticket Distribution
ok we had our fun now just let the post sink to the bottom of the poo. <--- wow didn't even try on that one
but seriously other than outing someone and their one post wonder sock/stoogie further bla-bla only lets it float a truly compact turd will sink.
and flush!
but seriously other than outing someone and their one post wonder sock/stoogie further bla-bla only lets it float a truly compact turd will sink.
and flush!
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Oh yeah, this year I was totally twerping out at the fence. ~Lonesombri
...........................................Oh yeah, this year I was totally twerping out at the fence. ~Lonesombri
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Re: Ticket Distribution
You should get out more. It's common in the festival and ticketed event biz to pay for tickets the moment they go on sale (or the drawing occurs) and to not have ticket fulfillment happen until 3 weeks before the event. As for returning to how things were, that's been discussed quite a bit around here.
Re: Ticket Distribution
To Trilobyte,
Yes, early payment and late delivery may be the norm, however, it has not been the norm in the past for this particular event and judging from the number of holes in the org's feet this year, should not remain so in the future. Encouraging to hear that there is talk of resurrecting the prior call-in system.
Yes, early payment and late delivery may be the norm, however, it has not been the norm in the past for this particular event and judging from the number of holes in the org's feet this year, should not remain so in the future. Encouraging to hear that there is talk of resurrecting the prior call-in system.
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Re: Ticket Distribution
Talk on the message boards, yes. But it's not happening, for a number of reasons (if you can't be bothered to read those threads, I can't be bothered to rehash it).
Personally I think shipping tickets in summer is a good move. In future I think they either just need to start two weeks earlier, or tell people July instead of June.
Personally I think shipping tickets in summer is a good move. In future I think they either just need to start two weeks earlier, or tell people July instead of June.
Re: Ticket Distribution
you cant use the ticket until the event anyways.
i wonder how many normally "lost" tickets have been avoided by shipping them in july.
i wonder how many normally "lost" tickets have been avoided by shipping them in july.
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Re: Ticket Distribution
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