set-up & kicked out of blackrock in '03

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:04 pm

Hey, I'd buy this monkey a drink in a bar anytime.

dj big E · Post by **dj big E** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:01 am

Everyone must sleep atleast 1 hour for every 72 on the playa no exceptions. Nrs:101234789/b. lmfao. Thanks for all the hardwork rangers,blm,brc etc. Thanks

JezebelinHell · Post by **JezebelinHell** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:27 pm

Hmmm...I violate that rule occasionally, but I think I should get a waiver because I have chronic insomnia and am fully used to staying up for a few days straight. I do it all the time in the normal world, when I don't even have a whole bunch of cool stuff to stay up and look at. I take power-naps in random camps on the playa every now and again, and those keep me going.

dj big E · Post by **dj big E** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:15 pm

No exceptions per the code. I will write you up then punish you jezebel

The code does not stae were or when you must get you're sleep It just must total one hour per every 72 hours on the playa. Cat/power naps Excepted. Playing possum does not count.

JezebelinHell · Post by **JezebelinHell** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:17 pm

How, precisely, do you plan on enforcing this? You can't follow me all the time! And every time you lose sight of me...I'll claim I've been sleeping. hehehe.

dj big E · Post by **dj big E** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:20 pm

I see and here all i am big E. lmao

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:56 pm

You can't follow me all the time!

his name is big e, and he is legion

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:57 pm

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:14 pm

stuart wrote:lmao

I always wondered,
is that pronounced la-may-oh or luh-mah-oh?
Otherwise how am I going to communicate with big E at the Meet and Greet?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:16 pm

Rob the Wop wrote:
stuart wrote:lmao
I always wondered,
is that pronounced la-may-oh or luh-mah-oh?

Patience would say l'Mayo.

SED · Post by **SED** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:42 pm

Typical of the narcissist bliss-ninny, the rev whatisname has no idea why from herds and herds of drunken weirdos he should be singled out for persecution. That jail time they offer you is a golden opportunity to figure a few things out.

dj big E · Post by **dj big E** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:08 pm

Cheers is good. laugh my ass off

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:08 am

rev. happy owl wrote:if you're a man and accused by a woman you might as well plead guilty

You know that if you bring a rape case they still often want to know what you were wearing, since people's inability to keep their hands to themselves and their hormones in check is obviously the victim's fault?

Sometimes there are problems with men being accused falsely.
Far more often there's no justice for the victims.
So most of us will never report it.

About 3/4 of my circle of friends have been sexually abused. The statistics for just the women are pretty damn close to 100%. If you're innocent of this, I feel for you. But if you're gonna throw this shit around so casually, i'm truly not inclined to side with you.

On the cops side of things, i have seen cops abuse their power and break laws on a regular basis, because most of the time it means that the 'problem' is dealt with at the time and the charges are thrown out after a legal battle. Still, your story is pretty out there... and i am not one inclined to cal bullshit on police violence, 'cause i've seen too much of it. But this is fishy.

skypilot · Post by **skypilot** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:49 pm

:? presently working in law enforcement, your story is bullshit, but kudos to your active imagination/ranting

Bungiti · Post by **Bungiti** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:19 pm

skypilot wrote::? presently working in law enforcement, your story is bullshit, but kudos to your active imagination/ranting

My perspective comes from being a criminal defense attorney but my experience is that cops will sometimes fudge the truth to ensure the conviction. Granted, I think clients also fudge the truth to get acquitted.

As for trusting cops, there are some I do and then there are those cops that I would not like to meet on the street, I can hardly stand them in court.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:55 pm

In general I would agree with you, Bungiti, but what just doesn't seem to right to me is that the original poster seemed to have had two separate encounters with two separate LEOs that both escallated. While it COULD be coincidence that he just ran into two separate groups of bad apples, the chances of that happening with a totally cooperative subject would be
rather remote, I would think.

I walked past LEOs and female Rangers. In once case a Ranger (male) even asked me how I was doing. Nothing happened. I also saw others walking past Rangers and LEOs and saw nothing happen there either. As a matter of fact, I was at the temple burn in a delightfully altered state and had no problems at all with the Rangers or LEOs or anyone at all.

I don't want to say that things like that don't happen, because they can, I am saying that a person claiming to be completely cooperative having two difficult encounters with two different situations and both situations escallating seems suspect to me and I would discount that account of events without hearing from others that were there.

jellibee · Post by **jellibee** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:41 pm

We (I and my wife) went to the medical tent at 3 oclock after I was assaulted the previous night/morning. I didn't want to go at first because I didn't want to continue the experience, so to speak, but was finally convinced to go. We also went to sanctuary where we were asked repeatedly what drugs we had taken. It was a weird experience and we ended up leaving to go back to camp where campmates were more helpful, which is how things should work at your camp anyway.

Your playa mileage will vary. I ended up not being able to skate on the rollerrink. The flooring came from another event we did and I was looking forward to seeing how it worked out on the playa and had brought some bauer rollerblades with me (playa necessities amazingly enough ;-)).

Shady Backflash · Post by **Shady Backflash** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:31 pm

this is an intense thread.

rev, care to answer if you were high, and, if so, on what? it's irrelevant, ultimately, but might have some bearing on any credibility you could lend to your story.

it seems incomplete at best and deranged at worst... as in, i think you believe that is what happened, but like others in this discussion, i'm having a hard time believing that the story is complete.

that said, i didn't have the experience, you did.

in general, i have found the cops and rangers at BM extremely friendly and helpful. at worst, i have seen them enforce laws that i wish weren't laws... ie bust people for smoking pot. that always burns my toast to see on the playa and even compels me to say to the arresting officers "victimless crimes should not be enforced," because i think they need to hear that, even if they are going to enforce the laws anyway...

my only cop experience this year was simple: i had a ticket that i went out in front of bruno's bar to sell. i was standing on the sidewalk holding it up in the air. seconds later the sherriff pulls over. i walk over in a silver cape, green elf rubber elf boots, and a cowboy hat... ie brc attire. i greet him and show him the ticket immediately and say "it is not a counterfeit." he looks the ticket over closely, paying special attention to the mylar or whatever that glitter part is... then he says "i just want to make sure." i tell him that i've bought counterfiet tickets at grateful dead shows before and that i would never sell a counterfiet ticket. he realizes i am sincere. i ask if i can just stand out here and sell it. he says if bruno says it is ok, and if bruno says it is not ok, you can sell it over there...

he was not overly friendly. he was literally doing the most reasonable thing he could be asked to do in that situation -- insure that i was not ripping off our community and the organization (which is also our community.)

obviously this is not meant to be indicative of all experiences on the playa, but i think with exception of drug arrests, which we could debate all year and never reach consensus on, the cops, for the most part, have their priorities in place at the burn. drug arrests are, of course, a scourge upon the nation and brc is not exempt.

Shady Backflash · Post by **Shady Backflash** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:37 pm

footnotes: in addition to shirt, cape, elf boots and hat, i was wearing PANTS (well, actually shorts) when talking to the cop. only on a brc discussion board would i feel the need to point that out...

also, i want to say that drug possession arrests are a scourge upon the nation. sometimes intoxication can warrant arrest, but ninety-nine times out of one hundred i've found that intoxication on any drug would be better handled by the medical community than the law enforcement community.

MoisturePup · Post by **MoisturePup** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:18 am

geekster wrote:In general I would agree with you, Bungiti, but what just doesn't seem to right to me is that the original poster seemed to have had two separate encounters with two separate LEOs that both escallated. While it COULD be coincidence that he just ran into two separate groups of bad apples, the chances of that happening with a totally cooperative subject would be
rather remote, I would think.

I walked past LEOs and female Rangers. In once case a Ranger (male) even asked me how I was doing. Nothing happened. I also saw others walking past Rangers and LEOs and saw nothing happen there either. As a matter of fact, I was at the temple burn in a delightfully altered state and had no problems at all with the Rangers or LEOs or anyone at all.

I don't want to say that things like that don't happen, because they can, I am saying that a person claiming to be completely cooperative having two difficult encounters with two different situations and both situations escallating seems suspect to me and I would discount that account of events without hearing from others that were there.

This guy had a bad encounter with everybody in the story:

The first female officer
The batch of officers responding next
The sheriff outside the exit
The emergency room psychologist.

Let's see, who did he encounter in the story that didn't end in a bad encounter? Nobody. That says a lot.

calsur · Post by **calsur** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:55 pm

MoisturePup - Or he created his own experiance.

Just my opinion but my experiences with LOEs is you have to work at it to get treated like rev. happy owl did. He did not piss off one set of LEOs but three separate sets.

The only other person I know who has done something like that is my brother Tim.

Back in the day my bro when out to help some guys who got stuck in the mud. About 5 minutes after he got there a Sheriff rolled up and started issuing ticked for trespassing. Brother Tims mouth went into overdrive. So the Sheriff gets done issuing tickets and goes over and slaps the cuffs on Brother Tim. Why? Possession of stolen property. He was wearing a scrubs shirt that was stamped over the left breast “Property of Mission Community Hospital”. Do you think this would have happened if his mouth was not running?

The rev. happy owl also wrote “a two hour taxi ride to gerlach to get my truck from the impound”. Now I am not up on taxi rates in 2003 out of Reno but I know the taxi will charge you round trip for a one way haul like that. That’s four hours and about 240 miles round trip.

So the rev. is rich or completely full up on bovine excrement.

You decide.

M Joe Boss · Post by **M Joe Boss** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:55 pm

I must say the rev has more than likelyslanted the story to suit his need to be consoled. I myself have been arrested numerous times. Not for my mouth but for other and real offenses. I have unfortunately had the opportunity to spend far more time around lEOs than the average person. And with a few exceptions, I have been in control of how they treated me, ie, when I was fully cooperative they trated accordingly, even letting me go with warnings. when i got a hard on, it generally went down hill directly. As a matter of fact in my numerous dealings with police, I can only recall 3 that I would say needed to wear their ass for a hat. For all who like #'s that is only about 1%. You need to look back as I do and be honest with yourself. " Oh yeah I had that one coming LOL lol LOl" I HAVE SAID THIS A FEW TIMES.

I know cops abuse their authority, hell you can see that on every episode of cops. but on those same episodes you can also see what led up to the events in which they abuse that authority, and it is generally , you guessed it the perp with a big mouth and some sort of escape plan.

set-up & kicked out of blackrock in '03

72 hour law

mandatory

lmao

When all else fails.