End a Camping Situation Without Losing Friends

[BBadger]

Think of this incident like the ticket problems this year: it cleared out a lot of shit by revealing true characters.

[slvrnmph]

Recent developments indicate the live sex show has gotten a boost to it's performance. Mr. SP got snipped today according to his post on facebook.

[Simon of the Playa]

Recent developments indicate the live sex show has gotten a boost to it's performance. Mr. SP got snipped today according to his post on facebook.

TEE EM FUCKING EYE!!!


gah...


why do people post shit like that....Male Sterilization is EVIL!

[Roberto Dobbisano]

oh shut up you're like that cuban guy in the buena vista social club with 18 kids and one on the way...

he was like 95 yrs old too..


VIVA LA BREEDER!

[theCryptofishist]

Recent developments indicate the live sex show has gotten a boost to it's performance. Mr. SP got snipped today according to his post on facebook.

TEE EM FUCKING EYE!!!


gah...


why do people post shit like that....Male Sterilization is EVIL!

I can only hope this is a joke.

[Simon of the Playa]

Recent developments indicate the live sex show has gotten a boost to it's performance. Mr. SP got snipped today according to his post on facebook.

TEE EM FUCKING EYE!!!


gah...


why do people post shit like that....Male Sterilization is EVIL!

I can only hope this is a joke.

you can take the boy out of the catholic, but you cant take the catholic outta the boy....

the day i get snipped is the day HELL FREEZES OVER AND THE BUFFALO BILLS WIN THE SUPER BOWL...i.e.....never

[H.G.Crosby]

it's actually quite true....it's one of those quirks...

He wants to keep making Babies until he dies...

seriously.


uber breeder.

fertile.

[slvrnmph]

Recent developments indicate the live sex show has gotten a boost to it's performance. Mr. SP got snipped today according to his post on facebook.

TEE EM FUCKING EYE!!!


gah...


why do people post shit like that....Male Sterilization is EVIL!

I can only hope this is a joke.

Oh Fishy, I wish it was.

[theCryptofishist]

Recent developments indicate the live sex show has gotten a boost to it's performance. Mr. SP got snipped today according to his post on facebook.

TEE EM FUCKING EYE!!!


gah...


why do people post shit like that....Male Sterilization is EVIL!

I can only hope this is a joke.

you can take the boy out of the catholic, but you cant take the catholic outta the boy....

the day i get snipped is the day HELL FREEZES OVER AND THE BUFFALO BILLS WIN THE SUPER BOWL...i.e.....never

I didn't say you should get one. If you're responcible, and your partner is okay with it, no issue. (Pun intended?) In a horribly over-crowded world we need as many forms of birth control as possible. Denouncing one so broadly and with a value-laden word like "evil" is problematic.

[theCryptofishist]

Catholic?

[Simon of the Playa]

you're absolutely right fishy, but i did not want to get into my penchant for eugenics and animal husbandry here.


Hunger Games are best for bringing the cream to the top...


i've said to much.

[Roberto Dobbisano]

he spent a year in catholic school


it explains the persecution complex.

[theCryptofishist]

I hope the nuns didn't beat him for using his left hand...

[Simon of the Playa]

you know what my last name is.


it is NOT cool being in second grade and being reminded daily by the nuns that you and your ilk had killed Jesus.

[FIGJAM]

So, you're Roman?

[gyre]

Not roman.

Government bureaucrat.

[theCryptofishist]

you know what my last name is.


it is NOT cool being in second grade and being reminded daily by the nuns that you and your ilk had killed Jesus.

No, sexual was not the only kind of abuse the Catholic Church dished out to the child in its care.

And, to me the pill is absolute poison. I know other women for whom it was a blessing. And the picture of the Dalkon Shield made me suspicious of IUDs. Birth control is a lot of trading off for "optimum".

[dragonpilot]

This w/b my 8th Burn. Every year I've gone in a big RV...big enough to provide sleeping space for 6-8 people. Every year I have pitched my own tent. I have been the organizer of 6 of the 8 trips. I strongly encourage each person to bring their own tent and bedding and use that as their personal space from which to escape the noise and crowding in the RV. We all pay an equal share. I consider it more beneficial to have my own private chill/sleeping space than to put up with the close confines of the RV interior when I want to rest, store my gear, make love, and change clothes/costumes. How can you possibly expect to be given a proportionate rate because you're not sleeping in the RV, but using every other feature?

The RV provides an excellent shelter for getting out of the noonday sun, preparing a meal, hosting guests, grabbing a fudgecicle outta the freezer, quick shower. In my view I don't care about sleeping inside...I prefer outside. And the riders that have traveled with me generally agree.

So, back out and live out of a tent, or sleep outside and use the RV for all of the above reasons.

[gyre]

Slvrnmph, you never even reached a discussion of the rv costs.
You never had any commitment.

You could camp with a random camp and probably have a better time, than with the sexpony camp.
I've done that more than once, and had a wonderful time.

[ranger magnum]

Not much to add that hasnt been said, but i had a similiar experience years back. Cut and run. Now. Tell them you have thought it through, and it will not work for you. Nothing more nothing less.

[Turtleburp]

Just before you talk to them reread Simon's posts* and channel the rage - record it too as we must be bored to be reading these posts!

*It is at this point you can wonder at his omnipotency - or not, your choice

[vaddynwashere]

Speak up now, don't wait any longer.
Friends are the people you're not afraid to resolve issues with, even when it explicitly entails an initial fight and lots of unnecessary, uncalled for verbal crap being thrown.
Friends value each other's money and emotional health.
Worst case scenario you will fight and will feel like crap, but it will only last a few of hours, then you'll make up. You're friends, right?
You deserve an emotionally positive burn and a homey home that fits your budget and your expectations.

If it's any consolation, I already had a medium-sized fight with my campmates, because, in short, I needed to adjust my logistics, and my change affects the camp's logistics (because I'm in charge), so they burst into flames at the prospect of my change affecting _their_ logistics. I only asked for help... and got a response that simplifies into "we don't want to change our plans to accomodate your change, find another solution". So whatever, I'll find another solution. It is my own fault that I changed my plans anyways.
Then we had another medium-sized fight over the fact that the shade structure we hoped would be ok is unsuited and unsafe.

)'( planning is always about piecing and re-positioning together whatever pieces you have (money, stuff, tolerance for sparkleness/obnoxiously loud sex, you name it) to adjust to whatever conditions. Conditions change. Therefore the arrangement must change too. See ya in a month!

[slvrnmph]

I have let the sex ponies know I will not be camping with them. They aren't happy about, but overall their reaction was pretty reasonable. They seem to be disappointed in me, but I can understand that since I also felt it was late in the game to back out. Mr. SP said this will cause him financial hardship because he will now probably have to cover my "share." I'm not taking that to heart because, as many people have pointed out to me, they still have time to get another person in on the RV if cost is that much of a concern. Plus, if they do try and are unable to it might enlighten them about their rules and behavior not being acceptable to most people.

I actually will be seeing Mr. SP in person today. I have been doing sewing work for him making him custom pieces and we need to do a fitting. So this afternoon could be interesting. It'll just be him and not Mrs. SP, at least to my knowledge.

[FIGJAM]

Tell him you don't know how much your going to charge him for the alterations. just to see how he reacts!

[Savannah]

I have let the sex ponies know I will not be camping with them. They aren't happy about, but overall their reaction was pretty reasonable. They seem to be disappointed in me, but I can understand that since I also felt it was late in the game to back out. Mr. SP said this will cause him financial hardship because he will now probably have to cover my "share." I'm not taking that to heart because, as many people have pointed out to me, they still have time to get another person in on the RV if cost is that much of a concern. Plus, if they do try and are unable to it might enlighten them about their rules and behavior not being acceptable to most people.

Yep. An RV share in general is an attractive thing, and lots of folks are seeking it. But many people would keep hunting if this were the choice presented, as your thread proves.

I actually will be seeing Mr. SP in person today. I have been doing sewing work for him making him custom pieces and we need to do a fitting. So this afternoon could be interesting. It'll just be him and not Mrs. SP, at least to my knowledge.

Tell him you don't know how much your going to charge him for the alterations. just to see how he reacts!

Brilliant.

[slvrnmph]

He has actually paid me for the sewing work. $400 and I have already made him bubble fur pants with a matching bubble fur vest, muppet fur shorts, black fur shorts, adding white fur to customize a tux jacket to fit him as well as adding white satin to the lining on the inside and hemming the matching pants, a pink leopard print utilikilt with matching vest, adding black fur trim to two coats, and putting snaps into a strip of elastic and fur sleeves from a coat so the sleeves can be worn on their own without sliding down the arms. I am also making him another utilikilt from rainbow tiger stripe fabric also with matching vest and a super grover costume. I also use thread that I already have and sometimes material I already have in my stash so he doesn't have to buy it. But most of the material he did buy.

I don't have pictures of everything, but here are a few pics of things finished and in progress.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jfsy ... T%255D.jpg
In progress shot of the muppet fur shorts.


Bubble fur pants. I used the selvage for the trim on the bottom of them.


Bubble fur vest.


Tux mod back.


Tux mod front.


In progress pink leopard print utilikit.

[wh..sh]

Damn!!! I want that tux!

[illy dilly]

Damn!!! I want that tux!

And I want that kilt!

OK wh..sh, we have to add "raid Mr.SP's tent" to our list of things to do.

Awesome job slvrnmph!

[slvrnmph]

Thanks! I'm pretty proud of my work and I have to say I think he's getting a pretty good deal for only $400 for everything (including the not pictured items).

[Savannah]

Agreed, very nice tux jacket and kilt.

I'm also fond of that fur. I've seen bubble fur just once in person (a ludicrously wide pair of awesome bell-bottom pants) and it's really striking.

. . . You are too good a seamstress to have put up with other folks' crap.

Okay, that's a very simplistic way of putting things, but I'm glad you've decided to be a bit more independent for this Burn.