Medicinal marijuana risk

penrose · Post by **penrose** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:25 am

I understand that marijuana legally prescribed in California is not legal to possess in Black Rock City. The following scenario comes to mind.

- Person with a condition that requires medicinal marijuana displays symptoms of pain
- A LEO notices and asks what's the trouble, asks if they have medications
- Person says yes, they have medications at camp

Has LE now sufficient cause to search camp? If so, they will find the legal pain pills etc, but also the CA-legal marijuana stash. Is the person in pain now also subject to arrest?

In this scenario, someone in camp who is not as likely to be searched might volunteer to store it. I appreciate thoughts on this scenario / thought process.

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:28 am

Stupid is as stupid does.

stew · Post by **stew** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:51 am

penrose wrote:I understand that marijuana legally prescribed in California is not legal to possess in Black Rock City.

That should answer it.

If your condition cannot go through the burn without medication, you might want to consult your doctor for a NV-legal alternative for the time of the burn, if only as backup. Getting party drugs confiscated is a bummer, getting important medical drugs confiscated is a real problem that you should try to avoid.

I would expect NV LEOs to show as much tolerance for medical marijuana as CA LEOs for automatic weapons.

MacGlenver · Post by **MacGlenver** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:57 am

penrose wrote:I understand that marijuana legally prescribed in California is not legal to possess in Black Rock City. The following scenario comes to mind.

- Person with a condition that requires medicinal marijuana displays symptoms of pain
- A LEO notices and asks what's the trouble, asks if they have medications
- Person says yes, they have medications at camp

Has LE now sufficient cause to search camp? If so, they will find the legal pain pills etc, but also the CA-legal marijuana stash. Is the person in pain now also subject to arrest?

In this scenario, someone in camp who is not as likely to be searched might volunteer to store it. I appreciate thoughts on this scenario / thought process.

I'm no lawyer, but that doesnt sound like probable cause to me to warrant a search. Obviously if they said "yeah we have weed back at camp to help with my pain", that would be cause.

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:00 am

delle · Post by **delle** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:08 am

stew wrote:
penrose wrote:I understand that marijuana legally prescribed in California is not legal to possess in Black Rock City.
That should answer it.

If your condition cannot go through the burn without medication, you might want to consult your doctor for a NV-legal alternative for the time of the burn, if only as backup. Getting party drugs confiscated is a bummer, getting important medical drugs confiscated is a real problem that you should try to avoid.

I would expect NV LEOs to show as much tolerance for medical marijuana as CA LEOs for automatic weapons.

Yup, yup yup!!!!

Sounds sane to me.

RedHeaven · Post by **RedHeaven** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:20 am

I know a lot of medical patients who bring Edibles to BMan instead of Smokeables to avoid bullshit from the law.
Sucks but thats just the way it is.
I am a medical patient, since I have been lifting weights and doing yoga my back problems have been resolved but I still am a puffer, however if I need some when I am at Bman, I fucking hide deep in my tent and blow the smoke underneath my comforter.

It's that sketchy.
If I was in dire need like I used to be, I would bring edibles.

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:26 am

50mph winds will take care of the smell this year!

some seeing eye · Post by **some seeing eye** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:02 am

No amount of drug addled logic and gymnastics on a public bulletin board is better than common sense. A citation or arrest is going to be a much harsher harsh on your mellow than leaving things prohibited by Nevada and the federal government home for a week.

I wouldn't be surprised to see posts here enter a court case as an argument for even more LEO. Our goal this year should be zero arrests, zero citations and zero stupidity.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:32 am

Zero stupidity? Zero drug stupidity is one thing. Stupidity is the 11th principle. Or maybe the 42nd--oldest principle in the book...

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:37 am

you want stupid?

YOU CANT HANDLE THE STUPID!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:44 am

No. I can't actually... I'm a brain-snob. Big brains and big hearts are what I want in the people around me.
Stupid is as stupid does.

CornMan · Post by **CornMan** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:04 am

Nevada is really working to accommodate the needs of out of state visitors, but they just haven't yet found the time to coordinate medicinal marijuana policies with other states. They are working hard in other areas such as their having managed to find the wherewithal to work with other states to issue citations for out-of-state vehicle registration violations.

Post by **Elderberry** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:37 pm

I didnt see it mention, but don't forget...you will be on federal land. MJ is not recognized as havibg any legitimate medical benefit even if you have a prescription--even a Nevada Prescription. If you get stopped by the Feds you are breaking the law.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:59 pm

Didn't someone say that once they have reason to search any tent in a camp that whole camp becomes searchable.

That's a big headache you're bringing down on everyone--including the first ones you'd ask to bail you out...

CapSmashy · Post by **CapSmashy** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:16 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Didn't someone say that once they have reason to search any tent in a camp that whole camp becomes searchable.

That's a big headache you're bringing down on everyone--including the first ones you'd ask to bail you out...

Some one may have said that, but they would be incorrect.

I would love to have the next ten years of Burns funded by winning an easy civil rights lawsuit.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:30 pm

Well, this is not my field...

Ask me about ... um... something...

Hoolie · Post by **Hoolie** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:42 pm

You are under no obligation to answer any question an LEO asks you, other than to identify yourself.

Lonesomebri · Post by **Lonesomebri** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:55 pm

Wow, hopefully johnny Law won't notice this dude passing from the left hand side- http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 52#p873952

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Post by **Eric** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:56 pm

Smashy is correct - they have to have probable cause. A neighbors tent is no more probable cause to investigate yours than a neighbors house is.

Freesponge · Post by **Freesponge** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:30 pm

Probable cause is telling a Cop you have weed or they can see pot paraphernalia in your camp, car or tent. If you have weed in your tend and they search without probable cause the charges will get thrown out when it goes to court, you just have to stick to your guns. Pretend you are 15 and don't want to get caught by mom or dad and you will be just fine. Edibles is a much safer way to get around it.

Just remember the golden words:
"I do not consent to a search"
"Yes sir"
"No sir"
"[b]Thank You[/b]"

Turtleburp · Post by **Turtleburp** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:06 am

Lonesomebri wrote:Wow, hopefully johnny Law won't notice this dude passing from the left hand side- http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... 52#p873952

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Nostalgia - even Blue Peter made steel drums.

BBadger · Post by **BBadger** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:27 am

Why are you trying to disclaim the illegality of that marijuana with terms such as "CA-legal" or "medical"? They have zero meaning as far as Nevada and Federal law are concerned--both of which apply at Burning Man. END OF STORY.

Probable cause? Anything can be "probable" especially some crazily dressed guy in pain talking about his "medication" in vague terms.

How do you handle this?

"Don't talk to cops."

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So keep your yap shut and all will be fine. No probable cause to deal with on your illegal marijuana.

Post by **AntiM** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:13 am

To sum up:

Edibles.
Be discreet, both in storage and consumption.
Never share.
STFU and assume we're all cops.

If busted, get a lawyer and don't whine to us. Because we told you so.

Lonesomebri · Post by **Lonesomebri** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:55 am

BBadger wrote:Why are you trying to disclaim the illegality of that marijuana with terms such as "CA-legal" or "medical"? They have zero meaning as far as Nevada and Federal law are concerned--both of which apply at Burning Man. END OF STORY.
Probable cause? Anything can be "probable" especially some crazily dressed guy in pain talking about his "medication" in vague terms.
So keep your yap shut and all will be fine. No probable cause to deal with on your illegal marijuana.

I liked the good old days when we all knew we were outlaws.

penrose · Post by **penrose** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:02 pm

Thanks all for the replies. This wasn't for me but for a friend for whom I was considering taking the risk of possession, since in my scenario a search driven by probable cause (cop sees pain -> conversation with cop) would lead to the friend and not to me. But it has been made abundantly clear that possessing smokables up there is just plain stupid. And since edibles don't reliably work well for pain management, the entire point seems moot.

RedHeaven · Post by **RedHeaven** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:23 pm

Edibles work fine for pain management.....

.....WHEN THEY DONT FUCK YER SHIT UP ALL TO HELL

"Damn, it was only a little innocent pot brownie...."

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