Decompression for singles

[M-Files]

Like most everything else in life, Burning Man events are best enjoyed when you're part of a happy, loving couple.

But just because you're single now doesn't mean you're doomed to stay that way - and it certainly doesn't mean you have to face your local Decompression all by yourself.

Join the only group dedicated to bringing together single Pacific northwest burners:

www.groups.yahoo.com/group/burning-singles .

Join and meet other burners going to Decompression events all over the Pacific northwest: San Francisco, Sacramento, Seattle, Portland and beyond.

What this group is: A meeting place for single Pacific northwest burners seeking dating and romance.

What this group is NOT: It is not a sex site. It is not for married people seeking additional relationships, threesomes, discreet encounters, yadda yadda yadda.

Please read the full group description before joining. Note this group is not for everybody.

Burningly yours,
M-Files

[Simply Joel]

IMHO... wouldn't you be better served placing this under "regional contacts & events"

[theCryptofishist]

Like most everything else in life, Burning Man events are best enjoyed when you're part of a happy, loving couple.

Cites?

[M-Files]

IMHO... wouldn't you be better served placing this under "regional contacts & events"

OK - thanks!

By the way, as for the comment below yours: "cites" or something - sorry, I don't understand.

M-Files
Your Burning Matchmaker

[Simply Joel]

IMHO... wouldn't you be better served placing this under "regional contacts & events"

OK - thanks!

By the way, as for the comment below yours: "cites" or something - sorry, I don't understand.

M-Files
Your Burning Matchmaker

cites... as in evidence of what you say is true.

[M-Files]

cites... as in evidence of what you say is true.

Well, it wasn't you who originally posted that, but in case you both mean the same thing....

CITES, as cited by, or, as so says, those who are part of said happy, loving couples; OR, those who are single, lonely and wishing they were such that they were part of said happy, loving couples.

If you are of the latter, then check out my group: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/burning-singles .

If you are of the former or of neither, congratulations.

M-Files
Your Burning Matchmaker

[tisha2]

Like most everything else in life, Burning Man events are best enjoyed when you're part of a happy, loving couple.

Cites?

bwahahahaha!!!! bwahahahaaaaa!! ooh, my goodness...heeheeheehee...what fat fucking load of propoganda SHIT!

i manage to enjoy *lots* of events all by my happy lovin' self!!!

tthhppht!

[Simply Joel]

cites... as in evidence of what you say is true.

Well, it wasn't you who originally posted that, but in case you both mean the same thing....
CITES, as cited by, or, as so says, those who are part of said happy, loving couples; OR, those who are single, lonely and wishing they were such that they were part of said happy, loving couples.

If you are of the latter, then check out my group: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/burning-singles .

If you are of the former or of neither, congratulations.

M-Files
Your Burning Matchmaker

so, your response to the cite question is... no, i don't have any cites to back up my claim... a claim which is now anecdote, not facts based upon research.

Main Entry: an·ec·dote
Pronunciation: 'a-nik-"dOt
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural anecdotes also an·ec·dota /"a-nik-'dO-t&/
Etymology: French, from Greek anekdota unpublished items, from neuter plural of anekdotos unpublished, from a- + ekdidonai to publish, from ex out + didonai to give -- more at EX-, DATE
: a usually short narrative of an interesting, amusing, or biographical incident

[samtzu]

Precious, precious, precious.... I am splitting my sides on this one...

[M-Files]

so, your response to the cite question is... no, i don't have any cites to back up my claim... a claim which is now anecdote, not facts based upon research.

Main Entry: an·ec·dote
Pronunciation: 'a-nik-"dOt
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural anecdotes also an·ec·dota /"a-nik-'dO-t&/
Etymology: French, from Greek anekdota unpublished items, from neuter plural of anekdotos unpublished, from a- + ekdidonai to publish, from ex out + didonai to give -- more at EX-, DATE
: a usually short narrative of an interesting, amusing, or biographical incident

On the contrary, it means that you and the previous poster are full of a load of propaganda bullshit.

What is the point of your drivel, you two? When I dispense ice tea on the playa, telling Burners that there's nothing like a cold drink on a hot day in the desert, are you two the jokers that stand there demanding "Cites" ?

If you like my gift, great. If not, move on to the next camp.

M-Files
Gifter, whether you like it or not

[Rian Jackson]

so, your response to the cite question is... no, i don't have any cites to back up my claim... a claim which is now anecdote, not facts based upon research.

Main Entry: an·ec·dote
Pronunciation: 'a-nik-"dOt
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural anecdotes also an·ec·dota /"a-nik-'dO-t&/
Etymology: French, from Greek anekdota unpublished items, from neuter plural of anekdotos unpublished, from a- + ekdidonai to publish, from ex out + didonai to give -- more at EX-, DATE
: a usually short narrative of an interesting, amusing, or biographical incident

On the contrary, it means that you and the previous poster are full of a load of propaganda bullshit.

What is the point of your drivel, you two? When I dispense ice tea on the playa, telling Burners that there's nothing like a cold drink on a hot day in the desert, are you two the jokers that stand there demanding "Cites" ?

If you like my gift, great. If not, move on to the next camp.

M-Files
Gifter, whether you like it or not

probably, yes. still i'm sideing with them.

[Rian Jackson]

damn. i mean, 'siding'

[Simply Joel]

Like most everything else in life, Burning Man events are best enjoyed when you're part of a happy, loving couple.

Cites?

M-files
what do you base this observation on?

the choices are:
a. personal experience which would mean anecdotal
b. actual research from a credible source

i am not sure there is a "c" option.

[M-Files]

M-files
what do you base this observation on?

the choices are:
a. personal experience which would mean anecdotal
b. actual research from a credible source

i am not sure there is a "c" option.

Joel -

As I mentioned previously, over and over, the answer is b), as per testimonials. For this subject, no more credible source exists nor can be expected.

Now, with all due respect - answer my question: What is the point of this drivel? Based on the numbers in my group, obviously some people appreciate its existence. If you can appreciate my group as a gifted service, great. If not, move on to the next camp.

M-Files
Continued Gifter, despite drivel and continued adversity

[Isotopia]

What is the point of this drivel?

The point is - it seems to me - to call people on their perceptions. Doubly so when couched in the form of a blanket statement that references a data point of one (i.e. you) and applies it as a truth to be applied to others without having any basis to back up the statement in question.

[M-Files]

references a data point of one (i.e. you)

Again, this is incorrect. The statement was based on testimonials and it still stands, as does my question: What is the point of this drivel? If you don't like my gift, move on to the next camp. Other Burners obviously appreciate my gift and your driveling about it won't make it go away.

M-Files
Burning Matchmaker, despite this nonsense

[samtzu]

What is the point of this drivel?

The point is - it seems to me - to call people on their perceptions. Doubly so when couched in the form of a blanket statement that references a data point of one (i.e. you) and applies it as a truth to be applied to others without having any basis to back up the statement in question.

I hate to say this, but I have to go with Iso on this one. All references must be accessable to the general populace or they can only be considered spurious. It's one thing to state that something is, indeed, a fact, and another to back it up.

Which takes us all the way back to the Cryptofishist's original question:

cites?

[tisha2]

Hi, M-files -

yeah, I know you're kinda getting ripped to shreds here when all yer trying to do is er HELP people - but I think the issue is just that the idea that coupledom=happiness and singledom=sadness is a really dreary and dangerous cultural myth that really needs to stop being spread. And THAT, my dear, is at least part of the point of the drivel.

But, question - why is there a pic of one guy grinning surrounded by four women (one of whom is reaching up her own skirt) on the front page???

yours,
tish

[Isotopia]

Again, this is incorrect.

No darling, saying its so doesn't make it so.

You made a very general, blanket statement. You were basically asked to give proof to buttress your claim. You've yet to do so.

I stand by my correct contention.

[samtzu]

Again, this is incorrect.

No darling, saying its so doesn't make it so.

You made a very general, blanket statement. You were basically asked to give proof to buttress your claim. You've yet to do so.

I stand by my correct contention.

cites?

[Rian Jackson]

Dear M-Files.

Let me refute your claim.

I don't know that i'd want to go to Bm with another half in tow, even if we were happy. I've never been a copy of a significant other; we've always had different tastes and interests. I think there would be a lot of strange tensions.

Sometimes, when i've gone places with an SO i'm happy with, i've wished i was just there with friends instead. sometimes i don't want to worry about another person.

So am i proof that you are wrong? or are you proof that i don't exist?

hmmm?

you see, some people are happier in a coupleship. sometimes i like them myself. it's great that you have your singles site, because some people can't just come down to the LL on Mondays. But frankly, don't you dare try to tell me i should be moping when i'm single, or pining for what YOU want. you should see the last time somone on these boards tried to tell me what i feel. i ripped some new assholes.

it seems that your feelings are hurt. but no one is demeaning your gift to the community, just your additude that says we all should need or want it, or that your way - the coupled way - is best for all of us.

sincerely,
the vicious little green giant,
surlytart

p.s. it's ok just to admit that you were wrong.
otherwise,
CITES???

[Badger]

cites?

The thread itself ya big poopie.

[samtzu]

cites?

The thread itself ya big poopie.

Accepted

Now, about a date with Iso...

[Woodrow]

tisha wrote:

But, question - why is there a pic of one guy grinning surrounded by four women (one of whom is reaching up her own skirt) on the front page???

...Hey!! Where's that? I wanna' see? Hand up her skirt?? Is she sexy? I like sexy? What about the guy? Does he look like he's enjoying himself? I know I would!! Hey, can you picture me in the middle of four wimmin, standing up??? I CAN!!!!!

[Rian Jackson]

tisha wrote:

But, question - why is there a pic of one guy grinning surrounded by four women (one of whom is reaching up her own skirt) on the front page???

...Hey!! Where's that? I wanna' see? Hand up her skirt?? Is she sexy? I like sexy? What about the guy? Does he look like he's enjoying himself? I know I would!! Hey, can you picture me in the middle of four wimmin, standing up??? I CAN!!!!!

i'd rather not

[Simply Joel]

drivel?

i don't think so.

Main Entry: 1driv·el
Pronunciation: 'dri-v&l
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -eled or -elled; -el·ing or driv·el·ling /-v(&-)li[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English dreflian; perhaps akin to Old Norse draf malt dregs
intransitive senses
1 : to let saliva dribble from the mouth : SLAVER
2 : to talk stupidly and carelessly
transitive senses
1 : to utter in an infantile or imbecilic way
2 : to waste or fritter in a childish fashion
- driv·el·er /-v(&-)l&r/ noun

[M-Files]

First of all, I want to send a big THANK YOU to all of you who have kept this thread going with all your pedantics. I was afraid my post would die, but no. Instead, you've kept my subject line front and center on e-playa, ensuring continued billboarding of my group and gift. I couldn't have done more with a million dollar advertising budget (impossible, since I'm doing this for free).

Second, the pic on our home page was taken at a fabulous Burner party last summer. Does it offend you, and if so, why? It really doesn't matter, because I like that pic and I'm not removing it.

Finally, on to the point. Yes, I began that post with a blanket statement that has been testimonied to me (as I have said repeatedly on this thread). And in case you've all crawled out from under some permanent autonomous zone, the context of that statement has also been used by countless poets, pop singers and hell, probably even by your parents when they first met.

If you're attached or happy being single, then (again) as I said - congratulations. Obviously, my group/gift is not for you.

But what the heck is the point of driveling on about an old adage? Maybe it's a blanket statement. Maybe countless happy couples have testimonied it to me personally over and over. Who the heck cares?

This is a gift to anybody in the Burner community who can use it. If you want to drivel about pedantics rather than help draw in your single Burner friends who may actually appreciate this gift, then you are not building community - you are destroying it.

Make sense?

M-Files
(Still) Your Friendly Burning Matchmaker

[buckethead alien]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I suspect that M-Files is looking to get laid.

[samtzu]

drivel?

i don't think so.

Main Entry: 1driv·el
Pronunciation: 'dri-v&l
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -eled or -elled; -el·ing or driv·el·ling /-v(&-)li[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English dreflian; perhaps akin to Old Norse draf malt dregs
intransitive senses
1 : to let saliva dribble from the mouth : SLAVER
2 : to talk stupidly and carelessly
transitive senses
1 : to utter in an infantile or imbecilic way
2 : to waste or fritter in a childish fashion
- driv·el·er /-v(&-)l&r/ noun

Joel, I confirm your contention. There are some very important issues being hashed out here. For someone to make a blanket statement such as "Like most everything else in life, Burning Man events are best enjoyed when you're part of a happy, loving couple. " almost begs the questions:

• Who made this study?
  What are the base base numbers to support this finding?
  What did the control groups consist of in terms of ethnicity, race, political ideology, educational attainment?
  Who paid for this; Governement or special interest private sector groups?
  What are the exact figures? Pie chart? Bar graph? Anything?

This is far from drivel... this is, and always has been back into the early half light of history, one of the driving forces of civilization: is a person better off in a group, in a couple, or alone? As Jonathan Swift said... no, I refuse to quote Swift. His ire has sat for too long to be relevant now.

I'm sorry... this is not drivel... this is serious shit.

[tisha2]

First of all, I want to send a big THANK YOU to all of you who have kept this thread going with all your pedantics. I was afraid my post would die, but no. Instead, you've kept my subject line front and center on e-playa, ensuring continued billboarding of my group and gift. I couldn't have done more with a million dollar advertising budget (impossible, since I'm doing this for free).

your welcome. but actually, the only ones seeing it are us. but i think we're enjoying it a lot!!

Second, the pic on our home page was taken at a fabulous Burner party last summer. Does it offend you, and if so, why? It really doesn't matter, because I like that pic and I'm not removing it.

didn't ask you to. not offended. just curious about the "happy, loving couples" yer trying to sell using a pic of one creepy guy surrounded by four trashy babes. might wanna fire yer marketing guy...

Finally, on to the point. Yes, I began that post with a blanket statement that has been testimonied to me (as I have said repeatedly on this thread). And in case you've all crawled out from under some permanent autonomous zone, the context of that statement has also been used by countless poets, pop singers and hell, probably even by your parents when they first met.

If you're attached or happy being single, then (again) as I said - congratulations. Obviously, my group/gift is not for you.

But what the heck is the point of driveling on about an old adage? Maybe it's a blanket statement. Maybe countless happy couples have testimonied it to me personally over and over. Who the heck cares?

This is a gift to anybody in the Burner community who can use it.

again, see....*sigh* This "gift" is based on the idea that it is BETTER to be NOT SINGLE. Which, yes Sam, is a *fascinating* conversation - I for one believe in finding my fulfillment in myself, and if there's someone around who sees my spark and i see theirs we can enjoy it together for a while, but all in all - all i have is me. and that's pretty f'in good.

If you want to drivel about pedantics rather than help draw in your single Burner friends who may actually appreciate this gift, then you are not building community - you are destroying it.

wait - didnt' you start this post by thanking us for keeping this thread so alive and visible...??? and did you say "drivel" again?? I thought Joel addressed that??? AND this 'community' seems pretty based in self-reliance, not co-dependent relationships.

urk....