The Bar, Volume #4

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby knowmad » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:05 am

you have better odds getting a visa when you are here already.
Or say; Fuck being an American become a Canadian.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby magicmarty » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:09 am

Grai, as a suggestion, make a list of the tools and post it here. I know that I have extra tools that I'd be happy to send to you and I bet many of us are in the same situation and would be happy to join in as well. It could be a start to getting back on your feet. A friend just had her car ripped open and looted a few weeks ago. She didn't have much in it, but the car wound up in the shop and the buggers got precious little, but she got violated. But tools are what lets you earn a living and that can be crushing. So, buddy, post away and lets see what can happen.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:10 am

looking at the visa website knowmad i can't even apply for a visa if I am already in country, unless i have a visa already. Canada i haven't even looked at. which is a major oversight on my part i guess. let me do that now
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby knowmad » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:24 am

Grai. you are freaking out. It is not that difficult. and unless your Felony was an aggravated-felony you don't have to sweat it that much, I was allowed to Emigrate into the EU with a couple of Deportations on my record, Didn't even have to hire a lawyer.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:27 am

Marty its great offer, but apart from my battery drills,impact driver and sonic oscillator (i loved that tool) the cost of posting is probably more than the cost of replacement, many of my tools are irreplaceable as well either because i made them from other tools or they simply dont exist anymore. discontinued glazing pliers, with breakout bars. some of my tools i dont even know wher they come from because i got given them 20 or more years ago.
I will be honest, if i could replace my alot of my stuff i would get it America because its cheaper or better over there or both.
but a set of screwdrivers? £30 to buy and $50 to post
You know how it is, I know what tools i had but to list them? its a lifetime of the tools i kept because they where useful. my glasscutters for example i bought 6 a few years back because they were discontinuing making them now i have had 2, i had 2 others for certain cuts or my circle cutter cost £50 because it was the type i liked.
or my putty knives, i can replace them at £15 each but i had 5 or i can get the standard ones but i had broken mine in, and taped the handles.

ah fuck the toolbox i bought on my way to BM last year. that's gone. the panel beating hammer i got given by my dad and the T square that i got given when i got sacked from a previous job, which was left handed.

everyday i think of a tool that was MINE and will probably just get thrown away.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:32 am

(I) a crime involving moral turpitude (other than a purely political offense) or an attempt or conspiracy to commit such a crime, or

would a conviction for theft from an employer count? i took the rap for that back when i was 22 to cover for a friend

(B) Multiple criminal convictions.-Any alien convicted of 2 or more offenses (other than purely political offenses), regardless of whether the conviction was in a single trial or whether the offenses arose from a single scheme of misconduct

got 3 convictions

also knowmad its the other way round, and its not the same for us coming there as it is for you to come here
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby ygmir » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:49 am

GD:
you don't know what, if anything, is missing.....don't get depressed until you need to.

just a thought........
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:52 am

as always yggi the voice of reason. it has been 3 weeks since i got the boot and a month since my van went walkies though. like i said closing a door and trying to move on
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby ygmir » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:59 am

well how about waiting, until the door gets closed?
don't get all maudlin, and then find out, most or all your tools are still there.

not telling you how to live, or what to think.

but, why be glum, any longer than necessary? There's plenty of time for that. Right now, positive thoughts, and the positive hopes we all send you, can do more to influence things, IMHO.

There's much to be said, in the ethereal realm, about positive thinking and thought, and how it can materialize and manifest......

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby knowmad » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:47 am

I'm not going to Argue with you Grai. But You are Wrong. You are looking at a Molehill thinking it's a Mountain. You are Tired and Fact is You Don't know ! how long you Seriously been Looking into Immigration Issues? Couple of months? year maybe? bout as long as I have been Seriously studying ways and means of My Transition. I've been Despondent, I've seen what looked like Impossibility turn out to be just Improbable, And I Didn't assume I knew how to find out the answers on my own. Reading websites, Thinking. I Turned to People With Experiences, I Experimented in my Thinking (Rediscovered the wheel) and drew on my other experiences and what I know about myself. Grai, I've been Dealing with Immigration issues from both sides of the pond since 1996, and freakouts since since fucknowswhen. And all I can say is; "Fuckit!" but not in the despondent tone of voice; More like in the "Fuckit!" it has to be done, tone of Voice.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:50 am

thanks guys
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby moonrise » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:56 am

Hang in there Grai! There has to be a good solution for a good pal such as yourself. ;)
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby MyDearFriend » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:02 pm

*smooch* Yeah Grai we can talk all we want and make all kinds of suggestions that you may or may not take but the bottom line is:

WE LOVE YOU and we will help you massage these problems until you find solutions. Nil desperandum my dear.

Big ((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby gyre » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:19 pm

Grai, I do this every day.
Lost a complete stained glass studio, including that handblown english streaky you can't get anymore, handmade 8 foot table, groziers, you name it.
All I can suggest is buying in bulk from someone going out of business.
Good tools turn up sometimes.
Lost all my soldering irons, except one 200 watter that turned up the other day.
Don't know if it's a working one though.


Canadian immigration is tougher, but they have different rules.
You can go through a rehabilitation process to be approved.
They are very strict about duis though.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby Aurelia » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:01 pm

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby Box Burner » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:33 pm

well fuck it all. If it costs too much to send tools how about sending money? Paypal Maybe? I dunno....

and for custom made tools. Some of the tools I use are made by myself also. some of us could actully make something up from a drawing.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby ygmir » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:36 pm

Box Burner wrote:well fuck it all. If it costs too much to send tools how about sending money? Paypal Maybe? I dunno....

and for custom made tools. Some of the tools I use are made by myself also. some of us could actully make something up from a drawing.

good point, BB< some of us can make stuff, GD.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:40 pm

guys, i will listen to yggi for now, maybe give them a few more weeks. thanks for the offers, my paypal is frozen until i can attach my new bank account to it. anyway if you guys wanted to send me money send it for airfare and i can discuss working it off. i'm pretty cheap at the moment my rates for up to 3 months are $300/week +room board beer and ciggies. that includes the $135 to be sent to england to keep my room available.


to any LEO's that may read this i am of course joking and have no intent of ever working in america. unless I had a work permit
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:40 pm

Insurance= new stuff
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby gyre » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:53 pm

Insurance can be problematic.

I want to find one of these suits for Xmas.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:00 pm

moonrise wrote:yea aserendipity, and my guess is the train ia ADA compliant,

You can get on the train, but you are stuck on the underfloor--unless you can climb stairs.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby MyDearFriend » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:45 am

Oh Fishy "underfloor" is all we get on this side of the continent. :? Looking forward to seeing stairs on a train, gosh what is that...

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby Aurelia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:52 am

The restart button is perhaps the best of all !
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:57 am

well hot a phone call of a potential job offer this morning. not going to hold my breath, not sure if i will need to get tools and things for it either. not much worse than being woken up to a stranger asking you questions about your work history
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby ygmir » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:06 am

*wanders in, makes CEC*

Thanks MDF.

hey GD, not that I'd ever preach, but, well, maybe try to stay optimistic. Even if this job offer is nothing.........the fact is, you got a call........and you know thousands of others, didn't. It means you have a reputation of some sort, and obviously positive, to get a call.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby magicmarty » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:01 am

Morning MDF, ASD, Grai and YG. Glad to hear you got a call, Grai. Good omen even if I don't believe in omens. MDF, Hope you get to SF when you are doing Doc's train ride. We can lift a glass together if you do. Off to a very busy day today, so thx for the coffee and best wishes to all . Supposed to get some rain shortly. Tan hills are turning green.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby AntiM » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:07 am

Mmm, coffee. Morning everyone!

Grai, I hope things work out, and all will be right with your world.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby Dr. Pyro » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:09 am

magicmarty wrote: MDF, Hope you get to SF when you are doing Doc's train ride. We can lift a glass together if you do.


Or you could join us and have a fun weekend trashing the train. Your call Marty!

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby ygmir » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:43 am

Dr. Pyro wrote:
magicmarty wrote: MDF, Hope you get to SF when you are doing Doc's train ride. We can lift a glass together if you do.


Or you could join us and have a fun weekend trashing the train. Your call Marty!


*the crowd chants*

Mar-ty, Mar-ty, Mar-ty........
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Postby graidawg » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:59 am

I got phone call this morning saying i was shortlisted for a job as a maintenanc glazier, if i need to provide my own tools i may be looking going out and getting the basics this weekend.

i literally dont even have my own hammer.
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