
Or this (piss christ), yet it won awards. What is art and artistic expression if not to shock, inspire and elicit controversy and question your beliefs of right/wrong, good/bad, and more importantly, why.
ygmir wrote:Zeke Chaparral wrote:Ugly Dougly wrote:You probably have your own forgotten prehistoric culture. It's a shame that you don't honor it.
That's what my Injun friends say anyway.
Yeah, it wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that my grandfather immigrated from Estonia. Maybe that's why we embraced this America thing so thoroughly. I don't know if I would want to try to adopt Estonian culture at this point. It would probably feel contrived.
Tere Homikust!!
Zeke:
Esti culture, is very near Pagan, judging by my experiences there.
I loved everything about the country, including the pervasive "Pagan" overtones and practices.
They claim to have been the last to "fall" to Xtianity, and some claim they just nodded, to go along.
It is a magical land, I'd love to return to. wonderful people and culture.
Check it out, really, it might fit better than you think.
Kuulmessini
*my spelling is undoubtedly wrong*
Zeke Chaparral wrote:ygmir wrote:Zeke Chaparral wrote:
Yeah, it wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that my grandfather immigrated from Estonia. Maybe that's why we embraced this America thing so thoroughly. I don't know if I would want to try to adopt Estonian culture at this point. It would probably feel contrived.
Tere Homikust!!
Zeke:
Esti culture, is very near Pagan, judging by my experiences there.
I loved everything about the country, including the pervasive "Pagan" overtones and practices.
They claim to have been the last to "fall" to Xtianity, and some claim they just nodded, to go along.
It is a magical land, I'd love to return to. wonderful people and culture.
Check it out, really, it might fit better than you think.
Kuulmessini
*my spelling is undoubtedly wrong*
That makes me want to go check out the place.
BBadger wrote:And here people thought Longinus was just being a dick to Jesus.
Sunbeam56 wrote:"Would you be dressed like a Holywood Indian while doing this?"
Naw - no feathers on the playa...
Maybe a leather bikini?
unjonharley wrote:So, Jesus walks into this old no tell motel on route 666. Throws three barn spiles on the counter and asks.. Can you put me up for the night![]()
BBadger wrote:And here people thought Longinus was just being a dick to Jesus.
Religion and art is (sic) inherently syncretic...
nilasnake wrote:stupid is....as stupid does...knock yourself out. tribal people should just roll their eyes.
Sunbeam56 wrote:"Would you be dressed like a Hollywood Indian while doing this?"
Naw - no feathers on the playa...
Maybe a leather bikini?
Savannah wrote:The breadth of responses here is probably similar to what it'll be out there, i.e., no one can know what kind of reaction you'll get. The city does not move in lockstep--it's got people from all over the world.....
If it's organic to you, rather than a performance, there's no reason you can't wait and just decide on the playa.
DoctorIknow wrote:but for sure you will get an enthusiastic crowd if you do what Richard Harris did around 3:05 in this video:
Eric wrote:DoctorIknow wrote:but for sure you will get an enthusiastic crowd if you do what Richard Harris did around 3:05 in this video:
I know a guy who did suspension performances (including hanging from hooks through his skin while swinging & pushing quills through his cheeks on stage). Utterly gorgeous man, but we couldn't even kiss after he performed due to infection concerns from the open wounds in his mouth. He wouldn't do suspension on the playa to avoid playa chest-wound (and you thought playa foot was bad... )
I'm also a huge wimp when it comes to little things like needles, I could only watch his performances twice - just thinking about him swinging up there makes me light headed.
Savannah wrote:Eric wrote:DoctorIknow wrote:but for sure you will get an enthusiastic crowd if you do what Richard Harris did around 3:05 in this video:
I know a guy who did suspension performances (including hanging from hooks through his skin while swinging & pushing quills through his cheeks on stage). Utterly gorgeous man, but we couldn't even kiss after he performed due to infection concerns from the open wounds in his mouth. He wouldn't do suspension on the playa to avoid playa chest-wound (and you thought playa foot was bad... )
I'm also a huge wimp when it comes to little things like needles, I could only watch his performances twice - just thinking about him swinging up there makes me light headed.
I'm not bothered by needles whatsoever, but hook suspension is probably not something I would watch . . . it's the distortion of perfectly sound, lovely skin, the fear of seeing it tear--and yeah, the potential for infection--that disturbs me too.
However, if someone has health insurance and knows the risk, it's like "Yeah . . . do your thing. Maybe I'll peek. Your pain tolerance is intriguing, but I think I'll wait over here until we can go for a drink."
Oo, we just drifted the thread.
. . . Leather bikini, leather bikini!
theCryptofishist wrote:Believe or not, I thoroughly agree thatReligion and art is (sic) inherently syncretic...
Well, except for the grammar, I guess.
Do not tell the white people about this. Jesus is now upon the earth. He appears like a cloud.
Sunbeam56 wrote:I guess I would qualify as a poser. I am trying to get to BM 2013, prior attempt was 2011 (the year of the Phoenix). Something relatively significant stopped me - probably a work assignment.
My lack of committment is not ethereal, its practical. My schedule is not self-determined. But I've done what I can to reserve the time, and will guard it jealously.
We are practiced campers - albeit Yuppie Scum Campers. Generator, tents, full kitchen... lovely shower.
And we are planning to bring a large quantity of water.
Mostly, tho, this is something of a vision quest. One of those things you have to do before you die.
I've been to Ireland.
I've tried too many weird adventures (sky-diving, what a horrible thing).
The spiritual aspects of the Temple and of dancing to appease and petition the dead are appealing to me.
So yeah, Fuck 'em if they can't grok.
FIGJAM wrote:R.A.H.
unjonharley wrote:...I asked Grandfather (@ dinner) about the Ghost Dance.. Belong to one tribe.. It was adopted by the others after the christians come.. I'm sure he will call me today and tell me which tribe the dance belong to.
but I did see a modern video where a (Northern?) Paiute Shaman stated that she was one of six who still knew the Ghost Dance songs. This means the songs were taught, which strongly suggests to me that either the movement and/or the ceremony continued to have importance to at least some Paiute into modern times. I have no idea if the Ghost Dance is considered sacred in the present day by any peoples.Sunbeam56 wrote:...After Wounded Knee there was a "Ghost Dance" Society. It was started by a Prophet who believe that they could dance the world to peace. Its a modern charismatic sort of movement, still practiced today - and I am NOT part of it.
Sunbeam56 wrote:...Just sayin' - Since I'm not Indian except by inspiration - how could it be an Indian dance?
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