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Post by samtzu » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:40 am

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i think my favorite thing about Ramadan is the evening meal... the anticipation involved, the way everyone comes together, the celebration of a meal together. the visiting - huge meals cause families go together to each others' houses.
And that is what any successful religion should be about (and seldom is, in my experience): Community. Anything that brings people together to share in joy, laughter, pleasure, etc., is good... Like BM. Anything that brings people together to bitch and moan and complain, is bad... like our current election.

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my least favorite is doing hard physical labour at midday with no water.
I'm hip!! Waleed has a big bottle of water on his desk right now. I told him he was going to have to knock that shit off... he laughed and said "Yeah". I want to see how he handles this for the next forty days. Should be interesting.

And again:
i worked like mad last week... you know, when i disappeared from here... what with moving the office and setting up.
We are adding a new computer system to our current one, which means that we will be using two systems to do our job... and neither one is compatable with the other. To check out anything we will have to check it twice (you hear that Santa??) What with training and double systems, I doubt that I am going to be making a very big showing on these threads for the next month or so.... So, remember, I'm not ignoring people; I just don't have the time.

I hate having work interfere with my life!

And finally:
i want to have coffee with you again. i have a bunch of new poetry. i still want yours printed out in large quantities to take home with me. i want to go back to that park, you know, the one.
I want to read your new stuff, have coffee with you, and sit in the park for awhile... but it really is my turn to come up there. Let me know when it would be good for you... and I need to get the new book finished so I can get it printed (published is almost too much to hope for). You get the fourth copy (My three kids get dibs on the first three... I get to keep the leftovers)

And ignore Woodrow... he tries to act like he knows it all, over on the singles thread, but it is waaaaaaay to obvious that he is just another oblivious, ignorant, frat boy yahoo.
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Post by stuart » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:05 am

the discipline of Ramadan is good for everyone

except for those who want to be healthy. Aint nothin good about 12 hours of dehydration. I pity any poor practising hypoglycemic muslims as well.
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Post by samtzu » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:11 am

stuart wrote:
the discipline of Ramadan is good for everyone

except for those who want to be healthy. Aint nothin good about 12 hours of dehydration. I pity any poor practising hypoglycemic muslims as well.
well, yeah... except for those people... and anorexics... and people living above the Arctic Circle.... but it's great for people with hydrophobia... and people who are drowning... and... and... and...
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Post by Rian Jackson » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:16 am

i usually ignore woodrow. it just cracks me up since your'e so much NOT like that (oops, i've outed you!)

yes, do come up. still, i wouldn't mind hitting portland again. i want to see the x, i'd like to go back to the red and black. and soon it will be time for a small trip, to do the drive again, to listen to a Neal Stephenson novel on the way down and back up. i just need to feel a bit more rested first.

Zoo wrote:You get the fourth copy (My three kids get dibs on the first three... I get to keep the leftovers)
i'm truly honored. the other day i was cleaning (an endless task since i'm never home and when i am i'm doing better things) and discovered where i had squirreled your poems from my last visit. it was such a fabulous surprise. funny, though, because one refers to a time in 19*5, but was written in 1999. when i had first read it i somehow missed the date you wrote it, thinking that the 19*5 was the year of authorship. i was sitting here thinking 'damn, this guy was writing early!!'

i have a lot of stuff i don't put on this forum because people don't need to be bombarded with my processing of violence and loss. but there's some that might be worth sharing, at least with you. you know what i'm talking about. of course, every time i try to find the literary tomes thread to post i lost it altogether... maybe you can post some poetry and revive it? i may just join in.

it's funny how many beautiful little experiences i keep running into.

a bunch of Pal Solidarity types were at Virginia Inn a few weeks ago. This man came up and asked for a light, which was given to him. Very casually, he comments on our 'scarfs' - the kuffiyehs many were wearing. I explained that most of the group was Pal rights supporters. This of course began a long conversations with one of the most beautiful, peaceful souls I've been able to meet. It turns out that i met his business partner at greeter gate at BRC, too. I've gone by his shops to see him a few times lately, and always leave feeling rather moved and grateful. There are few people who have that level of peace and love... so i'm looking forward to spending more time with him. Which, in typical Arab world fashion, is easily attainable just by dropping by.
I'm hip!! Waleed has a big bottle of water on his desk right now. I told him he was going to have to knock that shit off... he laughed and said "Yeah". I want to see how he handles this for the next forty days. Should be interesting.
I'm forgoing the food today in preparation for *maybe* fasting. But you'd better believe i had a biiiig gulp of water just now! I don't have much trouble on a health level with missing some food - it doesn't matter much - but going without water always seems like such a stupid idea. but then, there are many in Gaza who have no water now anyway. it's good to remember the many around the world who don't have the most basic and necessary of resources. and then there's the water privatization issue... grrr....

did i ever tell you about what was one of my top 10 meals ever??
i was coming up from bailing out a buddy, returning north. we went through the checkpoint (the only time, i believe, i got through without having to risk my neck through the mountains) and found, as usual, a bunch of men who were detained there, not allowed to return home after work and school. so we stayed, to advocate when we would, if they wanted, to reduce the likelihood of violence, and in the end just to be there, with them, because sometimes that's the only thing - and the most powerful things - you can do. as night fell, we were still stuck. since it was ramadan they hadn't eaten all day. the two of us foreigners hadn't eaten for most of it since we had been in public. when the sun sank below the mountains, we opened up our meager offerings and shared them all around. then some Palestinians came up with food that they'd brought, i believe, just to feed whoever was stuck. it was cold as hell, no one was dressed warmly enough to ward off the mountains' chill. so eventually one man, a schoolteacher with a huge smile and an incredible amount of patience, lights a grass fire. the soldiers noticed and got pretty pissed. they yelled at us a few times before we actually stamped it out. but as soon as they was turned their backs again, he lit another one. we were all laughing, enjoying our short lived heat and warming our hands with a circle of friends, strangers. the soldiers returned, angry, and the teacher argued with them. he wouldn't back down, but certainly wasn't an ass or even disagreeable about it. so they made him sit alone for a while. as the night crept on we stood around singing stupid songs (they wanted us to imitate Michael Jackson and such - it was hilarious). They'd sing for us, we'd sing for them. And evenutally, after a few hours, we left that place, where strangers had shared a Ramadan meal on the roadside and laughter triumphed despite the cold, the separation from family, and the exhaustion. i don't remember what it was we ate. but it doesn't really matter. few meals can top it.....
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Post by Rian Jackson » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:20 am

stuart wrote:
the discipline of Ramadan is good for everyone

except for those who want to be healthy. Aint nothin good about 12 hours of dehydration. I pity any poor practising hypoglycemic muslims as well.
Actually Islam prohibits, if i recall correctly, fasting if it will endanger your health. One of the major ideas of the haram rules, the way i hear it - don't smoke, don't drink, etc. - is to keep the body healthy. I have friends who couldn't fast until they were in their late 20s because of stomach conditions. Similarly, someone recovering from surgery wouldn't fast.

But yeah, you're totally right about the water thing.
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Post by stuart » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:26 am

don't drink, etc.
The French Paradox - Helping Fight Heart Disease
So, assuming a glass of wine with dinner every day, what benefits will this wine bring to your body? Research by UCA-Davis has shown that the wine is reducing coronary heart disease incidence. This was known as the "French Paradox" for a while, because doctors couldn't figure out why cream-loving French weren't dying from heart attacks frequently. Wine, it turns out, was the answer.

What is wine doing? The wine is altering the blood lipid levels. It lowers the total cholesterol count, and raises the high density lipoprotein (HDL) levels. In essence, it keeps the blood vessels clean. In fact, research in Dec 2001 showed how polyphenols in red wine - especially Cabernet Sauvignon - keeps the arteries clear.

Wine and Ulcer Prevention
Newsweek reported in May 99 that a study showed how wine helps prevent ulcers. In a study of 1800 people, the scientists tested for the presence of helico bacterpylori, which causes ulcer infections. Compared to non-drinkers, those who had one glass of wine a day had 7% fewer of these bacteria. Those who drink two glasses a day had 18%, and those who drank 3 or more glasses had 1/3 fewer bacteria.

Wine and Cancer
Studies show that wine helps fight cancer. Wine contains resveratrol which helps supress cancer. The red grapes that go into red wine also have bioflavonoids, which are antioxidants and help prevent cancer to begin with. Third, as a stress fighter, wine is also shown to help cancer patients by relaxing them and helping them fight their disease.

Wine and Strokes
Studies show that wine helps prevent strokes! Scientists figure that the alcohol breaks up blood clots and increases HDL ("good") cholesterol in the bloodstream. This keeps the arteries clean. Note that this helps with the common ischemic stroke, but not with the rare hemorrhagic stroke, which is sudden bleeding in the brain.

Wine as a Soother
Wine is a calming influence, something which may seem incidental but should not be forgotten. The fact that a dinner is accompanied by a drink which helps the body relax and unwind can help the mental transition between work and relaxation. Also, people fighting other illnesses can combat them better when calm and focused.

Wine and General Health
Researchers have found that those who drink 1-3 glasses a day regularly are healthier than those who drink none, and also than those who drink more. Even Hangovers aren't really from the alcohol -they're from the impurities that are in the beverage.
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Post by samtzu » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:30 am

Rian wrote:
...to listen to a Neal Stephenson novel on the way...
Well, fuck me! (An exclamation, not an invitation) I'm most of the way through The System of the World, the last book of his Baroque series. Great writer, reminds me of some of the historical novels of Gore Vidal.
i have a lot of stuff i don't put on this forum because people don't need to be bombarded with my processing of violence and loss. but there's some that might be worth sharing
Could we start a "Violence, Loss, and why it PISSES ME OFF!!!" thread...?
did i ever tell you about what was one of my top 10 meals ever??(fill in story here)... And evenutally, after a few hours, we left that place, where strangers had shared a Ramadan meal on the roadside and laughter triumphed despite the cold, the separation from family, and the exhaustion. i don't remember what it was we ate. but it doesn't really matter. few meals can top it.....
And there it is... wherever food, song, and even oppression, are shared, there is community. We had that in Vietnam. The Viet Cong were trying to kill us, our own officers were helping them, and the local Vietnamese were trying get every single penny out of our pockets that they could. All we had was each other (oh... and a lot of pot). We were closer than family, because we took care of each other. Yes... we had many good meals together, even if we had to eat them cold, straight out of the can with a stick.
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Post by Rian Jackson » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:34 am

stuart wrote:
don't drink, etc.
The French Paradox - ....................................
agreed. but there's the liver.. and a lot has to do with mental state.

you know, Mohammed says Allah says don't pray while drunk, moved later to don't drink at all, these things. i'm not expert, though.
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Post by Rian Jackson » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:37 am

Zoo wrote:Could we start a "Violence, Loss, and why it PISSES ME OFF!!!" thread...?
If you like.

[quote = "Zoo"] And there it is... wherever food, song, and even oppression, are shared, there is community. We had that in Vietnam. The Viet Cong were trying to kill us, our own officers were helping them, and the local Vietnamese were trying get every single penny out of our pockets that they could. All we had was each other (oh... and a lot of pot). We were closer than family, because we took care of each other. Yes... we had many good meals together, even if we had to eat them cold, straight out of the can with a stick.[/quote]

maybe this is why i'm nt a food snob. i like good food, but i'd rather eat lousy vittles with good context than eat royally but be psychologically uncomfortable.
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Post by stuart » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:42 am

i like good food, but i'd rather eat lousy vittles with good context...
I hear what you are saying, I really like to eat well but having a good meal with people who suck in a crappy enviro is an overall drag. Me, I like to have it all. I try to select my dining companions with the same attention to quality as I would the restaurant or wine.

some would say this has to do with my being born in mid May.
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Post by Rian Jackson » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:48 am

stuart wrote:
i like good food, but i'd rather eat lousy vittles with good context...
I hear what you are saying, I really like to eat well but having a good meal with people who suck in a crappy enviro is an overall drag. Me, I like to have it all. I try to select my dining companions with the same attention to quality as I would the restaurant or wine.

some would say this has to do with my being born in mid May.
see, i still get stuck in the student/activist/artist mentality of 'oh my god! i only have enough money for top ramen!'
which is no longer true, most days. sometimes, though....

then again, it would do me a lot of good to truly get back to that mindset. i think my finances would be happier.
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Post by stuart » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:51 am

well dear, should you ever find yourself in La La land we can hook up the good company and the good food. You can do it guilt free knowing that I am an artists (more of an artisan) and finance free knowing that I am an armchair socialist.
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Post by stuart » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:52 am

artists
apparently suffering from MP disorder
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Post by Rian Jackson » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:58 am

stuart wrote:
artists
apparently suffering from MP disorder
which is??

it was easier than saying theatremaker/musician/person with latent photographic ambitions
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:59 am

stuart wrote:knowing that I am an armchair socialist.
Check with Tisha. She may need an armchair in the bar. Got to be better than stools. . .

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Post by stuart » Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:01 pm

which is??
multiple personality disorder

it was a jab at my spelling disaster; referring to myself as an artists

i weren't picking on you lambchop
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:04 pm

What? Being a member of Parlement isn't a disorder of it's own?

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Post by samtzu » Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:26 pm

Well, Steuie's got MP(a parlimentary disorder), Fishy is obliquely talking about the toilet overflowing in the bar (i.e.: stool on the floor), Rubber Chicken has a student/activist/artist mentality, and I'm cranky and old...

BUT AT LEAST WE'RE NOT ALONE ON THE EPLAYA ANYMORE!!!!!
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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:47 am

well, here goes... we'll see how long this lasts...
Ramadan began this morning.
no food/drink/smokes/sex until 6:20 or so.

but i got a 'happy ramadan' phone call last night.
how fucking cool is that?

had a big conversation with Salah about Ramadan and fasting - he's been doing it for, i believe, 30 years - since he was seven.

just don't take my eplaya away..
wouldn't it be horrid if someone here gave up eplaya for lent???!!!
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Post by buckethead alien » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:51 am

Good luck today, Rian.

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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:02 am

buckethead alien wrote:Good luck today, Rian.

- Bucket
thanks! i think i'll need it.
but then, i went to bed at about 9, got up early enough this morning to make some arabic coffee and eat a few bites (haven't had breakfast in AGES!!) and drink some water.

it's only until 6:20 or so.

but the real question is, am i allowed to eat/drink/smoke/screw online??
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Post by samtzu » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:03 am

Rian the Tiger wrote:
no food/drink/smokes/sex until 6:20 or so.
6:20 when??? Tonight??? My God!! Smokes and SEX???

So... you're saying we should avoid any contact with you for the next forty days... at least during the daylight hours, anyway?

How about whacking yourself over the head with a hammer? Is that allowed?
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Post by samtzu » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:05 am

Rian the Soon-To-Be-Angry wrote:
but the real question is, am i allowed to eat/drink/smoke/screw online??
I would hope there is a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy on that...
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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:13 am

Hey, I didn't get TOO grumpy yesterday.
of course, i ate by 5pm.
i was fucking hungry.
but then by the time the Pho was in front of me i didn't even neen it anymore.

seriously, though, i am not sure my brain is 100% committed to this. moreso today than yesterday. funny, it always seems less of a good idea around 4 pm...

and no, don't avoid me! i'll be a sad little fasting non-muslim. which, really, is a little weird....
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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:17 am

Rian Jackson wrote:neen
sometimes lack of edit key is funny.
teehee.

hey, who can come up with a good definition for 'neen'?
winning definition gets used on the eplaya.....

Neen(v) to insult. ie, Woo-ee, you got neened!
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Post by samtzu » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:23 am

La Masochist wrote:
and no, don't avoid me! i'll be a sad little fasting non-muslim. which, really, is a little weird....
I've done several forty day fasts for religious and non-religious reasons. I'll explain my views on these to you some time (in the park, maybe, when you're not fasting!) but the one thing I have found out is this: if you are not committed totally to the enterprise, the very fact that you are attempting to do it weighs heavier on you than the actually act itself. Try meditating (or praying) your way through this... there is strength to be found there.

And if you can put up with my didactic "wiser-than-thou" bullshit during this time, I would be more than happy to keep talking to you.

What does it say about shooting heroin during the day? Is that out too?
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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:28 am

samtzu wrote:La Masochist wrote:
and no, don't avoid me! i'll be a sad little fasting non-muslim. which, really, is a little weird....
I've done several forty day fasts for religious and non-religious reasons. I'll explain my views on these to you some time (in the park, maybe, when you're not fasting!) but the one thing I have found out is this: if you are not committed totally to the enterprise, the very fact that you are attempting to do it weighs heavier on you than the actually act itself. Try meditating (or praying) your way through this... there is strength to be found there.

And if you can put up with my didactic "wiser-than-thou" bullshit during this time, I would be more than happy to keep talking to you.

What does it say about shooting heroin during the day? Is that out too?
right now you're cool with your didactic wiser than thou bullshit. i'm enjoying the very fact that there are other who do these things. i did a similar fast (though i don't remember how long it was for) in the late spring in Morocco....

oh, and i think heroin is ok.

i'll try not to neenanyone today...

Neen(v) To mangle.
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Post by samtzu » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:42 am

Little Miss Sweetness and Light wrote:
Neen(v) To mangle.
And mangle is an old laundry term; it is a machine that folds things over and over until they are a tight little bundle.

Yes, no mangling, please... Or Mengleing, either, for that matter...
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Post by Rian Jackson » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:03 am

samtzu wrote:Little Miss Sweetness and Light wrote:
Neen(v) To mangle.
And mangle is an old laundry term; it is a machine that folds things over and over until they are a tight little bundle.

Yes, no mangling, please... Or Mengleing, either, for that matter...
we had a dryer with some look metal edges.
one day it mangled all the clothes - in every sense of the word.
tore iteself up from the inside.

Neen (v) to regard with suspicion.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:13 am

Rian Jackson wrote: hey, who can come up with a good definition for 'neen'?
winning definition gets used on the eplaya.....

Neen(v) to insult. ie, Woo-ee, you got neened!
maybe it's a neon light when it's not "on."
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