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- robbidobbs
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you just did.robbidobbs wrote:Fuck I'm bored.
And I don't want to do anything about it.
...cry for fucking help if i ever heard one...
you should mosey on over the The Bar for a drinky-poo...all the most charming are out tonight...well, *most* of the most charming...
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Sensei - my guess is NEVER.
actually, Nipper and i discussed the spinal transplant option, but realised that he'd lose his license for that so it wasn'ta good option.
oh, and as far as Chiro - i was going (6 times a week) but insurance cut me off. i just finished paying them off (finally! hooray!) last week or something - even though my last visit was in early April. i'm at the state where i pretty much won't see a doc unless i'm dying, because the bills take so long to process and i can't afford it and you just end up getting completely fucked. medical care is only for the wealthy. and i'm better off in terms of insurance than most people i know...
but anyway, today is a little bit better (fuck yeah) on that front. some days good, some days bad.
actually, Nipper and i discussed the spinal transplant option, but realised that he'd lose his license for that so it wasn'ta good option.
oh, and as far as Chiro - i was going (6 times a week) but insurance cut me off. i just finished paying them off (finally! hooray!) last week or something - even though my last visit was in early April. i'm at the state where i pretty much won't see a doc unless i'm dying, because the bills take so long to process and i can't afford it and you just end up getting completely fucked. medical care is only for the wealthy. and i'm better off in terms of insurance than most people i know...
but anyway, today is a little bit better (fuck yeah) on that front. some days good, some days bad.
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fuck...
U.S. Soldier Sentenced to 8 Years for Iraq Abuse
By Terry Friel
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. Staff Sergeant Ivan "Chip" Frederick was sentenced to eight years in prison on Thursday for sexually and physically abusing Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib jail in Baghdad.
At a court martial near Baghdad airport, Judge Colonel James Pohl also sentenced the army reservist to a reduction in rank to private, forfeiture of pay and a dishonorable discharge.
It was the toughest sentence in three convictions to date related to degrading abuses at Abu Ghraib exposed with the publication in April of photographs that outraged the world.
Frederick's lawyer Gary Myers called the sentence excessive and said he intended to appeal to seek a reduction.
Frederick, 38, the most senior enlisted man charged in the Abu Ghraib scandal, had pleaded guilty to five charges of abusing detainees at the facility in October and November last year, including making three prisoners masturbate.
He punched one detainee so hard in the chest that he needed resuscitation. Frederick, a prison guard in civilian life, attached wires to another man, telling him he could be electrocuted if he stepped off a box.
In one of the most notorious incidents linked to the charges, naked prisoners were also made to form a human pyramid.
Major Michael Holley, the military prosecutor, told the court Frederick was an adult able to tell right from wrong.
"How much training do you need to learn that it's wrong to force a man to masturbate?" he asked.
Myers said that while it was right to punish Frederick, the military establishment must share the responsibility.
"Punish him, yes. But please try to understand the defense's point of view that there is corporate responsibility," he said.
Two other U.S. soldiers have previously been sentenced to between eight months and a year in jail after pleading guilty to abuses at Abu Ghraib, a jail notorious for executions and torture under Saddam Hussein. Five more face courts martial.
PLEA BARGAIN
Judge Pohl originally sentenced Frederick to 10 years in prison, but cut this to eight years because of a plea bargain.
In his court testimony on Wednesday, Frederick admitted beating and humiliating prisoners, saying he had been trying to prepare them for interrogation. He pleaded guilty to charges that included indecent acts, dereliction of duty and assault.
"I knew it was wrong at the time because I knew it was a form of abuse," Frederick told the court.
Frederick painted a picture of life inside the jail in which prisoners were stripped naked, sometimes dressed in women's underwear and physically and mentally abused.
He also told how Iraqi police smuggled in guns and drugs for prisoners and how he was too scared to report the abuses.
"I was afraid of retaliation by other soldiers. We all walked around with loaded weapons. It was very high stress."
In all, seven military police personnel and an intelligence soldier have been indicted for involvement in the abuses.
A top-level U.S. inquiry blamed the military chain of command, right up to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, for creating conditions that allowed the abuses to take place.
Witnesses in Frederick's trial said the CIA sometimes directed abuse and orders were received from military command to toughen interrogations.
The evidence, from an officer and a chief warrant officer who served at the jail, is among the strongest so far in the Abu Ghraib trials pointing to more senior involvement in the abuse.
Previously, the Pentagon has said that the abuses were the work of a few "bad apples" acting on their own.
U.S. Soldier Sentenced to 8 Years for Iraq Abuse
By Terry Friel
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. Staff Sergeant Ivan "Chip" Frederick was sentenced to eight years in prison on Thursday for sexually and physically abusing Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib jail in Baghdad.
At a court martial near Baghdad airport, Judge Colonel James Pohl also sentenced the army reservist to a reduction in rank to private, forfeiture of pay and a dishonorable discharge.
It was the toughest sentence in three convictions to date related to degrading abuses at Abu Ghraib exposed with the publication in April of photographs that outraged the world.
Frederick's lawyer Gary Myers called the sentence excessive and said he intended to appeal to seek a reduction.
Frederick, 38, the most senior enlisted man charged in the Abu Ghraib scandal, had pleaded guilty to five charges of abusing detainees at the facility in October and November last year, including making three prisoners masturbate.
He punched one detainee so hard in the chest that he needed resuscitation. Frederick, a prison guard in civilian life, attached wires to another man, telling him he could be electrocuted if he stepped off a box.
In one of the most notorious incidents linked to the charges, naked prisoners were also made to form a human pyramid.
Major Michael Holley, the military prosecutor, told the court Frederick was an adult able to tell right from wrong.
"How much training do you need to learn that it's wrong to force a man to masturbate?" he asked.
Myers said that while it was right to punish Frederick, the military establishment must share the responsibility.
"Punish him, yes. But please try to understand the defense's point of view that there is corporate responsibility," he said.
Two other U.S. soldiers have previously been sentenced to between eight months and a year in jail after pleading guilty to abuses at Abu Ghraib, a jail notorious for executions and torture under Saddam Hussein. Five more face courts martial.
PLEA BARGAIN
Judge Pohl originally sentenced Frederick to 10 years in prison, but cut this to eight years because of a plea bargain.
In his court testimony on Wednesday, Frederick admitted beating and humiliating prisoners, saying he had been trying to prepare them for interrogation. He pleaded guilty to charges that included indecent acts, dereliction of duty and assault.
"I knew it was wrong at the time because I knew it was a form of abuse," Frederick told the court.
Frederick painted a picture of life inside the jail in which prisoners were stripped naked, sometimes dressed in women's underwear and physically and mentally abused.
He also told how Iraqi police smuggled in guns and drugs for prisoners and how he was too scared to report the abuses.
"I was afraid of retaliation by other soldiers. We all walked around with loaded weapons. It was very high stress."
In all, seven military police personnel and an intelligence soldier have been indicted for involvement in the abuses.
A top-level U.S. inquiry blamed the military chain of command, right up to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, for creating conditions that allowed the abuses to take place.
Witnesses in Frederick's trial said the CIA sometimes directed abuse and orders were received from military command to toughen interrogations.
The evidence, from an officer and a chief warrant officer who served at the jail, is among the strongest so far in the Abu Ghraib trials pointing to more senior involvement in the abuse.
Previously, the Pentagon has said that the abuses were the work of a few "bad apples" acting on their own.
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Yup...Witnesses in Frederick's trial said the CIA sometimes directed abuse and orders were received from military command to toughen interrogations.
The evidence, from an officer and a chief warrant officer who served at the jail, is among the strongest so far in the Abu Ghraib trials pointing to more senior involvement in the abuse.
Previously, the Pentagon has said that the abuses were the work of a few "bad apples" acting on their own.
and fuck...
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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Are you actually surprised at that? Wait until when (if?) whatever is happening at Guantanamo gets out... I'm sure it's at least as bad if not worse.
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Holy fuck does buying a house ever take a lot of time. Not complaining, just saying. Our 'junker' house turned out to be remarkably sound structurally. Turns out what looked hokey was just hokey. Lots of cosmetic issues but nothing serious at all. Yay!
Did you know that if you are self-employed you are lumped in to pretty much the same group as people with bad credit and bancrupcies? How fucking stupid and annoying. And you are 'not allowed' to spend more than 40% of your income on housing? Hahaha, that's a good one, eveyone I know does, but for a mortgage you're not allowed to. Whatfuckingever. I guess I'm supossed to shop more than I do.
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Holy fuck does buying a house ever take a lot of time. Not complaining, just saying. Our 'junker' house turned out to be remarkably sound structurally. Turns out what looked hokey was just hokey. Lots of cosmetic issues but nothing serious at all. Yay!
Did you know that if you are self-employed you are lumped in to pretty much the same group as people with bad credit and bancrupcies? How fucking stupid and annoying. And you are 'not allowed' to spend more than 40% of your income on housing? Hahaha, that's a good one, eveyone I know does, but for a mortgage you're not allowed to. Whatfuckingever. I guess I'm supossed to shop more than I do.
- robbidobbs
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Rian Jackson
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fuckin' can't decide whether or not to go to PDX this weekend. i bought i ticket, said i'd go... don't really feel like it. totally fuckin' unprepared, uninspired, and not sure it's worth the drive. haven't gotten to see my sweetie at all lately, so it'd be nice to spend sometime this weekend. i'll probably fuckin' go anyway, just cause i *planned* to.
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It's a deal... but remember, I'm a light weight... I haven't smoked 'hookah' in years...Rian Jackson wrote:only if you promise to smoke hookah with me on Saturday night.samtzu wrote:It'd be fucking great to see you there, sweetie. I'll be the nasty old fart in the blue pickup...
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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Rian Jackson
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grape tobacco, sweetie....samtzu wrote:It's a deal... but remember, I'm a light weight... I haven't smoked 'hookah' in years...Rian Jackson wrote:only if you promise to smoke hookah with me on Saturday night.samtzu wrote:It'd be fucking great to see you there, sweetie. I'll be the nasty old fart in the blue pickup...
me and the green don't mix.
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Ahhhh... good. I'll bring you a Cohiba, too.Rian Jackson wrote:grape tobacco, sweetie....samtzu wrote:It's a deal... but remember, I'm a light weight... I haven't smoked 'hookah' in years...Rian Jackson wrote: only if you promise to smoke hookah with me on Saturday night.
me and the green don't mix.
Sandwichman! Easy on the brain, Dude... smackin' 'em don't make 'em work better...
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
Damn! EVERYONE KEEPS FORGETTING THE "FUCK"!!!! This is the *only* fucking going on in my life these days, people!!!
QUIT FUCKING SLACKING!!
QUIT FUCKING SLACKING!!
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Rian Jackson
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FUCK!!!!! FUCK!!
i meant to say FUCKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uh - How you, ah, fuckin', doin'...? heh...
i meant to say FUCKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uh - How you, ah, fuckin', doin'...? heh...
ERP ~ Emergency Resource Procurement
"if i can't find it, yer f***ed"
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how we roll:
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No clean clothes... Fuck
Car is not packed.... Fuck
No one to watch the kid.... Fuck
Need to go shopping still.... Fuck
Need a beer.... Fuck
I was supposed to be at the locale 2 hours ago.... FUCK!
Car is not packed.... Fuck
No one to watch the kid.... Fuck
Need to go shopping still.... Fuck
Need a beer.... Fuck
I was supposed to be at the locale 2 hours ago.... FUCK!
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Fuck!!
Some bad fuck, some good fuck.
Bad fuck. The ex was having trouble with her chemistry class and was falling behind. She needs this as a pre-req for a very selective vet-tech program in Oregon. 25 students a year are selected from hundreds. She was a shoe-in next year with her 1.5 years vet office and 2.5 years humane society work. It would be the third time she applied and she was on the waiting list this last year.
So I was going to sacrifice going to the PDX Decompression and spend the weekend tutoring her.
She dropped the class instead, saying that there was too much going on in her life right now.
I know her. She would have to take chem in the spring (she won't) and take a bio course as a cram course in the summer. She's going to put off entering the program another year. But I know she won't go back into trying after this! She hit a road block, and instead of going forward, she lets it cripple her. Now the guilt will hit, and the insecurity follows. FUCK!!
But it's pointless trying to point that out to her. This will eat her up, but if you try to point it out- she'll get resentful and put up her own internal roadblocks. So I have to say, "I'll support you in any way I can, you have to make the descision on your own. If you decide to continue, I'll always be here for you to tutor you." While I'm screaming inside, "You will lose your fucking slot in the program! Programs like this can't wait around in hopes that you will make up your mind! You could have done it last year based on your slot in the waiting list, but you didn't have the pre-reqs done! You're already starting to make those 'defeatist' grumbles about how you don't think you can do it! You're going to end up defeating yourself AGAIN!!!"
FFUUCCCKKK!!!!
But I get to go to the Decomp now.
I'll bring some of the red and some of the green liquid.
Rian? Sam? Drinkies at the mini-man? I'll have a bullhorn to yell at the ravers.
What do you think- Disgruntled Postal Worker or the Official Yahoo for the Evening? Descisions, descisions...
..fuck...
and I may have to drop my painting class with all the bullshit I need to do this winter...fuck...
Some bad fuck, some good fuck.
Bad fuck. The ex was having trouble with her chemistry class and was falling behind. She needs this as a pre-req for a very selective vet-tech program in Oregon. 25 students a year are selected from hundreds. She was a shoe-in next year with her 1.5 years vet office and 2.5 years humane society work. It would be the third time she applied and she was on the waiting list this last year.
So I was going to sacrifice going to the PDX Decompression and spend the weekend tutoring her.
She dropped the class instead, saying that there was too much going on in her life right now.
I know her. She would have to take chem in the spring (she won't) and take a bio course as a cram course in the summer. She's going to put off entering the program another year. But I know she won't go back into trying after this! She hit a road block, and instead of going forward, she lets it cripple her. Now the guilt will hit, and the insecurity follows. FUCK!!
But it's pointless trying to point that out to her. This will eat her up, but if you try to point it out- she'll get resentful and put up her own internal roadblocks. So I have to say, "I'll support you in any way I can, you have to make the descision on your own. If you decide to continue, I'll always be here for you to tutor you." While I'm screaming inside, "You will lose your fucking slot in the program! Programs like this can't wait around in hopes that you will make up your mind! You could have done it last year based on your slot in the waiting list, but you didn't have the pre-reqs done! You're already starting to make those 'defeatist' grumbles about how you don't think you can do it! You're going to end up defeating yourself AGAIN!!!"
FFUUCCCKKK!!!!
But I get to go to the Decomp now.
I'll bring some of the red and some of the green liquid.
Rian? Sam? Drinkies at the mini-man? I'll have a bullhorn to yell at the ravers.
What do you think- Disgruntled Postal Worker or the Official Yahoo for the Evening? Descisions, descisions...
..fuck...
and I may have to drop my painting class with all the bullshit I need to do this winter...fuck...
[b]The other, other white meat.[/b]
- samtzu
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Rob the Wop wrote:
Sounds good to me... BTW, I'm coming as a rain swept cowboy... seems to be the weekend for it...Rian? Sam? Drinkies at the mini-man? I'll have a bullhorn to yell at the ravers.
What do you think- Disgruntled Postal Worker or the Official Yahoo for the Evening? Descisions, descisions...
The revolutionary does not grow up because he cannot grow, while the creative individual cannot grow up because he keeps growing ~~ Eric Hoffer
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I'll be heading out soon........So will all of you be hiding your identities or will we meet? I have cheap Canadian whiskey and red beers.
Jason
PS Fuck because I am still home and won't be able to leave for another hour.
Jason
PS Fuck because I am still home and won't be able to leave for another hour.
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