Bamboo is MOOPy?

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Bamboo is MOOPy?

Post by dubz » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:33 pm

Hello all!

Does anyone have experience with using bamboo on the playa, and it's MOOP factor, if any? We are thinking of creating a bamboo fence along the front of our camp, and want to make absolutely sure that it does not MOOP. We would be sanding down any cuts made in it, and securing it to itself mostly with cordage.

And yes, I have read the "Live Plants on the Playa" section of the Preparation guide....

Thanks!

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Re: Bamboo is MOOPy?

Post by ygmir » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:58 pm

if it has no loose "skin" or cuttings, and especially if you spray it with lacquer it should be fine.
if your cordage is "raw" and sheds threads, then moopy. again, a good spray of lacquer, or PE should stick stuff together.
it's as simple as looking at your material, and seeing if anything is loose or will shed. and rubbing and or banging it, to see if bits fall off

easy? yes?
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Re: Bamboo is MOOPy?

Post by AntiM » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:00 am

Well-cured bamboo does fine out there. Just follow Ygmir's anti-MOOP suggestions and you'll be fine.
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Post by unjonharley » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:23 am

I have "large" bamboo here in the yard.. Other than the leaf it stays intact as it drys.. Am go to have to cut some of the taller poles this year.. They are over 15 feet and the wind might take 'em down.. That could mess up the roots for the new shuts.. Your suppose to plant them in containers.. One type got out of it's container and is out to take over my world.. Even shot roots under the sidewalk..

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Post by AntiM » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:55 am

Our tiny rented house in Japan had a small slope in the garden covered with bamboo. Every spring, Larry diligently monitored the garden and under the house (it was raised, support poles standing on flat rocks). The bamboo could and would grow right up through the concrete "yard" or up through the tatami flooring. Tough stuff.

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Post by unjonharley » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:04 am

Bamboo don't break down in the compost pile.. It feeds off it's our leaf droppings and water.. Like tea..There are 14 years of leaf on the ground in the yard.. I can dig down a few years and the leaf holds it's shape..

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Post by Drawingablank » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:25 am

I had a bad bamboo infestation here that destroyed my blacktop driveway. Apparently the clumping golden bamboo I bought was mislabeled. The stuff ook over my yard and was taller than the house (over 32 feet). As beautiful as it was it had to go.

Some lessons learned:

1. Bamboo is a grass. It spreads by underground runners (rhizomes) much the same as most lawn grasses do. These will commonly reach lengths of 6 feet, but much longer lengths are not uncommon.

2. Cutting bamboo causes it to send out more runners making it spread faster.

3. The absolute best way to get rid of bamboo is to spray it with roundup once a week for 4 or 5 weeks. This kills it to the roots and doesn't cause excessive spreading. Once it turns brown it can then be cut.

4. Just as with lawn grass, the more agressively you cut it the more vigorously it will grow.

And after removal of the leaves and small twigs, it is probably the least moopy stuff around. I'm not sure about varnishing it though - seems to me that if it flexed you would run the risk of the varnish flaking off.
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Post by BeeWeeDee » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:31 pm

Burning a bamboo clump or cluster is a lot of fun - explosively so! Lots of pops, booms and kabooms.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:24 pm

Drawingablank wrote:I had a bad bamboo infestation here that destroyed my blacktop driveway. Apparently the clumping golden bamboo I bought was mislabeled. The stuff ook over my yard and was taller than the house (over 32 feet). As beautiful as it was it had to go.

Some lessons learned:

1. Bamboo is a grass. It spreads by underground runners (rhizomes) much the same as most lawn grasses do. These will commonly reach lengths of 6 feet, but much longer lengths are not uncommon.

2. Cutting bamboo causes it to send out more runners making it spread faster.

3. The absolute best way to get rid of bamboo is to spray it with roundup once a week for 4 or 5 weeks. This kills it to the roots and doesn't cause excessive spreading. Once it turns brown it can then be cut.

4. Just as with lawn grass, the more agressively you cut it the more vigorously it will grow.

And after removal of the leaves and small twigs, it is probably the least moopy stuff around. I'm not sure about varnishing it though - seems to me that if it flexed you would run the risk of the varnish flaking off.
In China they apparently grow bamboo on islands in ponds to keep it from spreading, and it still gets out.
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Re: Bamboo is MOOPy?

Post by tatonka » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:30 pm

I have blackberrys that creep into my yard from out back , was thinking of putting bamboo in and watching them fight it out. Could film it and speed it up to see the outcome faster :) Have a new show called plant wars :)
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Post by ygmir » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:32 pm

tatonka wrote:I have blackberrys that creep into my yard from out back , was thinking of putting bamboo in and watching them fight it out. Could film it and speed it up to see the outcome faster :) Have a new show called plant wars :)
funny you say that: I once had a battlefield between bamboo and wisteria......well, it sorta turned into a dance.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:48 pm

ygmir wrote:
tatonka wrote:I have blackberrys that creep into my yard from out back , was thinking of putting bamboo in and watching them fight it out. Could film it and speed it up to see the outcome faster :) Have a new show called plant wars :)
funny you say that: I once had a battlefield between bamboo and wisteria......well, it sorta turned into a dance.
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Post by ygmir » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:41 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote:
tatonka wrote:I have blackberrys that creep into my yard from out back , was thinking of putting bamboo in and watching them fight it out. Could film it and speed it up to see the outcome faster :) Have a new show called plant wars :)
funny you say that: I once had a battlefield between bamboo and wisteria......well, it sorta turned into a dance.
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Re: Bamboo is MOOPy?

Post by unjonharley » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:51 pm

I have to help my Black Bamboo fight off the damn english ivy

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Post by Drawingablank » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:00 pm

ygmir wrote:
tatonka wrote:I have blackberrys that creep into my yard from out back , was thinking of putting bamboo in and watching them fight it out. Could film it and speed it up to see the outcome faster :) Have a new show called plant wars :)
funny you say that: I once had a battlefield between bamboo and wisteria......well, it sorta turned into a dance.
I had both - the bambood was winning until I killed it, not I am on a wisteria killing campaign.
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Re: Bamboo is MOOPy?

Post by unjonharley » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:34 pm

I have crab apple tree along the drive.. I hate the things.. So Ilet a rose tee take one over.. It makes a 15 foot wall of small white roses.. The next three I turned clematis lose.. Another 15 foot wall of flowers. Going to start velvet red roses on the next one.. Honeysuckle has completely taken over the one close to the house..

On the other side of of the drive we have walking cane growing over the board fence.. I let a yellow rose limb grow over the fence and wove it into the walking cane. People see it.. I tell them it's my hi-bred..

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