BRC police scanner live feed needs AM or FM transmitter

[antechrist]

As a service to the participants of BurningMan 2013, I'd like to set up an AM or FM radio broadcast of localized police radio transmissions. I have a police scanner and reciever antennas, but no transmitter. The original idea was to put a feed up on the internet, but I've since been told no one has internet coverage on the playa so they wouldn't be able to listen in that way. AM/FM radio would provide a more accessible service to the playa. I know its a long shot, but anyone who has a transmitter and would like to help out with this, please contact me.

[Bless]

have you queried any of the folks at the numerous radio stations?

[Elliot]

Just a hunch... that this would be illegal and would soon be shut down, possibly involving penalties. And pretty sure I read on this board that your scheme has already been tried -- complete with the subsequent forced shutdown.

[Dr. Pyro]

Just a hunch... that this would be illegal and would soon be shut down, possibly involving penalties. And pretty sure I read on this board that your scheme has already been tried -- complete with the subsequent forced shutdown.

But Elliot, I thought you could do whatever you want! It's Burning Man after all! You're not telling me now that The Man will keep us down?

[Elliot]

Doc, there is of course an exemption for you. You may do anything you want with impunity.

[illy dilly]

Doc, there is of course an exemption for you. You may do anything you want with impunity.

Well, at least in the back of your RV.

I don't know about Nevada, but the reason you get tickets for police scanners in CO is that the state claims that listening to police transmissions is an invasion of suspect and/or victim privacy.
"Its for your own good"

[Elliot]

Wow. I was thinking more of obstructing police officers in the performance of their duties.

[some seeing eye]

Hello Mr antichrist (don't get to say that very often),

You think you are providing a gift to Burning Man participants, but you could be doing the complete opposite. Everything every participant does to/from and at the event should be focused on creating the best possible relationship with each individual LEO and with their management. You pissing them off simply and directly falls on other participants and on the organizers. Remember they have their own stresses like any burner at the event which you could be adding to with your project.

Voyeurism for the masses does not create enough pleasure to compensate for the pain which is created for individuals, in my opinion.

Send an email to legal (at) burningman.com to get a reading on your idea. They can get a reading from LEAL, the people that work with all the agencies that are on playa. Hey, you can ask them if they want all the internal BM department radios broadcast too!

Have a great burn!

[CornMan]

My friend who broadcasted the scanner activity still has those recorded into mp3s. I'm sure it won't compromise life and limb to play police radio activity from yesteryear. Anybody who wants to listen to LEA activity can simply buy a scanner. It's not classified information. It's just that the cops feel comfortable knowing that hardly anybody listens to a radio made specifically for such purposes.

[illy dilly]

Wow. I was thinking more of obstructing police officers in the performance of their duties.

That's what you'd think, but if memory serves (not my memory of the events, but memory of the story, I was too young) at some point in the 80's an "Open Book Policy" was put into place for State/County/City Police, which made it illegal to tell people they're not allowed to listen to police radio. So, then the loop hole is they made it an invasion of privacy because someones full name could be used over the radio. I wouldn't be surprised if someone who was a victim wound up in the news paper because a reporter was listening to a Police scanner.

[lemur]

a lot of stuff people think should be illegal isnt.

thankfully.


doesnt mean some cop wont hassle you and fuck with ya on trumped up charges though.

[Captain Goddammit]

Maybe you know a thing or two but you don't know much about radio... It's legal to listen, but rebroadcasting it is definitely illegal!!
That's where your trouble is. If you piss them off, they can definitely get you on that, it's an FCC thing.

Well that and it's a stupid idea anyway.

Can't wait to see you posting in one of those "I got busted at the burn" threads later!

[lemur]

thats probably why sending it on the internet has been largely OK. (judging by the proliferation of it on the net)

[Captain Goddammit]

Exactly. Most of the FCC rules were written in 1934, the Internet is exempt from just about all rules about broadcasting.

[lemur]

it looks like the FCC doesnt even know if its illegal.

"A more recent Supreme Court decision, however, questions the ability of the government to regulate the disclosure of legally obtained radio communications, and this area of the law remains unsettled."

http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerf ... eption.pdf

in relation to this case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartnicki_v._Vopper


its certainly not explicitly illegal (federally) ... perhaps more of a gray area

[lemur]

i dont see much of any point in doing this for consumption at the event..BMIR is surely better entertainment.

i liked the idea much better when it was for people..not at the event.. over the internet (not that i feel sharing this at the event endangers anyone or hampers the ability of anyone to do their job in any way.. i dont)

if ya wanta listen to this stuff at the event.. you can just bring a police scanner (that is.. if you can even pick up the transmissions at all)

it seems like, whether its legal or not, playing it over AM or FM will just be poking the hornets nest of the folks who will want to shut ya down because they feel its the right thing to do (see posts above about 'interfering with an officer while blahblahbalh) ..if joe shmoes on the internet can think of up some reason for you to not do this..(whether it aligns with the law or not) you can bet one of the hundreds of law enforcement people... and well meaning rangers and LLC people with radios on their hips.. will find a reason as well.

[forty_eight]

all the legal wonks checking in, lol

there are sites broadcasting police scanners all over the internet

but an FM/AM broadcast is much different?

since leos already work in a transparent environment regarding scanners, i don't see the big rub

but then, i'm not a lawyer. lol

[Captain Goddammit]

Yes, broadcasting on the Internet and on radio are one million percent different!!
As far apart legally as can be.

But hell do what you want I don't care. I'll be listening to music or occasionally BMIR. Or just the sounds of the playa.
I don't give a shit about the cops because I won't be doing anything uncool.

[CitizenRandom]

BRC police calls would be interesting and hilarious but it is spectating and the more reasonable conclusion is why sit around obsessing over the police calls and who is what where and why.when .you paid a shit ton of money to go to BURNINGMAN to explore the extreme elements of a diverce and emerging culture the world is all buzzing about.and participate in cutting loose and making shit and HAVING FUN ...you can listen to cops anytime..and at home.. I doubt the local agencys give a flying fuck at your rolling donut art car regarding the prospect of their radio chatter being monitored anyway dorks...Its not like there are swat teams the ready for a federal arms and drug smuggling human trafficking organization..their aint no Methlabs a brewing in our city.... You kids are silly dumb heads. doing crazy talks..
.turn of yer radios and go OUT IN THE SUNSHINE AND PLAY..
.Elliot what are you some kinda hickory smoked law expert?
If anybody wants to get Elliot to spout some shit round here just preface a question about crime or pertaining to his number one super hero...The under appreciated men and women of LAW ENFORCEMENT!! Elliot is there a secret police support squad over there at the 3 oclock plaza bike shop? ...what do you think? will it make the blotter? I know..Ill ask Dave at BLM..they are the federal agency and dominion over state and all regulatory departments at the event... Dave will like that ..he likes funny stuff...Hes an agent for the FERERAL GOVERNMENT ...can you say ooooooo boys and girls? ooooooooo. quit being dust tweekies and burn the MAN NERDS!

[forty_eight]

As far apart legally as can be.

Legal advice without ANY hyperbole ... love you e-playa, lol!

[Mojojita]

BRC police calls would be interesting and hilarious but it is spectating and the more reasonable conclusion is why sit around obsessing over the police calls and who is what where and why.when .you paid a shit ton of money to go to BURNINGMAN to explore the extreme elements of a diverce and emerging culture the world is all buzzing about.and participate in cutting loose and making shit and HAVING FUN ...you can listen to cops anytime..and at home.. I doubt the local agencys give a flying fuck at your rolling donut art car regarding the prospect of their radio chatter being monitored anyway dorks...Its not like there are swat teams the ready for a federal arms and drug smuggling human trafficking organization..their aint no Methlabs a brewing in our city.... You kids are silly dumb heads. doing crazy talks..
.turn of yer radios and go OUT IN THE SUNSHINE AND PLAY..
.Elliot what are you some kinda hickory smoked law expert?
If anybody wants to get Elliot to spout some shit round here just preface a question about crime or pertaining to his number one super hero...The under appreciated men and women of LAW ENFORCEMENT!! Elliot is there a secret police support squad over there at the 3 oclock plaza bike shop? ...what do you think? will it make the blotter? I know..Ill ask Dave at BLM..they are the federal agency and dominion over state and all regulatory departments at the event... Dave will like that ..he likes funny stuff...Hes an agent for the FERERAL GOVERNMENT ...can you say ooooooo boys and girls? ooooooooo. quit being dust tweekies and burn the MAN NERDS!

No, the police support squad is always welcome at my camp. I don't think Elliot tried to give any legal advice. So why are you not playing nicely? I respect Elliot's wisdom and candor - and his mechanical knowledge makes him hawt.

[ygmir]

BRC police calls would be interesting and hilarious but it is spectating and the more reasonable conclusion is why sit around obsessing over the police calls and who is what where and why.when .you paid a shit ton of money to go to BURNINGMAN to explore the extreme elements of a diverce and emerging culture the world is all buzzing about.and participate in cutting loose and making shit and HAVING FUN ...you can listen to cops anytime..and at home.. I doubt the local agencys give a flying fuck at your rolling donut art car regarding the prospect of their radio chatter being monitored anyway dorks...Its not like there are swat teams the ready for a federal arms and drug smuggling human trafficking organization..their aint no Methlabs a brewing in our city.... You kids are silly dumb heads. doing crazy talks..
.turn of yer radios and go OUT IN THE SUNSHINE AND PLAY..
.Elliot what are you some kinda hickory smoked law expert?
If anybody wants to get Elliot to spout some shit round here just preface a question about crime or pertaining to his number one super hero...The under appreciated men and women of LAW ENFORCEMENT!! Elliot is there a secret police support squad over there at the 3 oclock plaza bike shop? ...what do you think? will it make the blotter? I know..Ill ask Dave at BLM..they are the federal agency and dominion over state and all regulatory departments at the event... Dave will like that ..he likes funny stuff...Hes an agent for the FERERAL GOVERNMENT ...can you say ooooooo boys and girls? ooooooooo. quit being dust tweekies and burn the MAN NERDS!

Citizenrandom:
screw you, and the horse you rode in on!!

Elliot is a grand person, helpful and always polite.

[Savannah]

BRC police calls would be interesting and hilarious but it is spectating and the more reasonable conclusion is why sit around obsessing over the police calls and who is what where and why.when .you paid a shit ton of money to go to BURNINGMAN to explore the extreme elements of a diverce and emerging culture the world is all buzzing about.and participate in cutting loose and making shit and HAVING FUN ...you can listen to cops anytime..and at home.. I doubt the local agencys give a flying fuck at your rolling donut art car regarding the prospect of their radio chatter being monitored anyway dorks...Its not like there are swat teams the ready for a federal arms and drug smuggling human trafficking organization..their aint no Methlabs a brewing in our city.... You kids are silly dumb heads. doing crazy talks..
.turn of yer radios and go OUT IN THE SUNSHINE AND PLAY..
.Elliot what are you some kinda hickory smoked law expert?
If anybody wants to get Elliot to spout some shit round here just preface a question about crime or pertaining to his number one super hero...The under appreciated men and women of LAW ENFORCEMENT!! Elliot is there a secret police support squad over there at the 3 oclock plaza bike shop? ...what do you think? will it make the blotter? I know..Ill ask Dave at BLM..they are the federal agency and dominion over state and all regulatory departments at the event... Dave will like that ..he likes funny stuff...Hes an agent for the FERERAL GOVERNMENT ...can you say ooooooo boys and girls? ooooooooo. quit being dust tweekies and burn the MAN NERDS!

Citizenrandom:
screw you, and the horse you rode in on!!

Elliot is a grand person, helpful and always polite.

Not to mention: one hell of a cop!

[lemur]

this is why i have 'performance' issues when using the lavatory/bathroom/washroom in public!!!

i cant stand people listening, and looking at me.

Wow. I was thinking more of obstructing police officers in the performance of their duties.

[forty_eight]

some public safety agencies broadcast their own stuff

they must not be worried about being obstructed

the erratic hive mind of eplaya never fails to deliver

always anticipating cause and effect leveraging barely tangential data points

that dusty white noise in binary

filter through and there is abundant knowledge

love you, eplaya

[Captain Goddammit]

This is a troll thread.

[lemur]

so what?!

it's fun to spout shit and type long ass paragraphs of stuff either way.

AS LONG AS Y'ALL ARE HERE.. IT DOESNT MATTER

*GROUP HUG*

[theCryptofishist]

I suppose this is not a good place to say that Citizen Random's avatar always makes me want to call the health department...

[Savannah]

This is a troll thread.

We seem to move quickly past our reservations as to whether someone is a troll and head straight for lively dissection!

We're like teenagers sitting around a basement table playing D&D. Someone's older brother comes in and says, "It's not real. And you're all a bunch of hopeless tools." He is greeted with baleful silence. He leaves, & someone says, "I've got an Ogre-slaying knife! It's got a plus nine against ogres!" and we're down there in the basement for another 4 hours.

[ygmir]

This is a troll thread.

We seem to move quickly past our reservations as to whether someone is a troll and head straight for lively dissection!

We're like teenagers sitting around a basement table playing D&D. Someone's older brother comes in and says, "It's not real. And you're all a bunch of hopeless tools." He is greeted with baleful silence. He leaves, & someone says, "I've got an Ogre-slaying knife! It's got a plus nine against ogres!" and we're down there in the basement for another 4 hours.

well said.