It's Official. Feathers are OK on the playa!

[lucky420]

Ha! See you in the dust!

[FIGJAM]

Oh I thought talking about plug and plays ruined burning man

That too.

Burning Man is BIG, so it takes a lot of ruining.

It's probably just going to be my go to line for anything I'm tired of reading about.

[trilobyte]

Whoops, I totally spaced on this yesterday... I'm giving this a nudge over to politics and philosophy, since that's a better fit.

My understanding is that the head of playa restoration (as well as I think the rest of the DPW leadership council) and other relevant stakeholders were involved in the decision to change the policy.

[Elderberry]

Ha! See you in the dust!

[Lonesomebri]

because it's on YOU if they become MOOP

So the hotty with the feathers from last year that got pictures published all the over place, that is okay now..... I forget if we decided if it was okay then, but at least the powers that be smiled favorably on her in retrospect and gave this post-pardon. What I like about this is that while I am no hotty with a feather fetish, or her enablers, I can now relax knowing that my playa sins are only on ME. I can be a pretty forgiving person when it comes to the crap I do.

[mrchiff]

Seems to me the restoration crew should be the final say if feathers are allowed in BRC or not as they are the ones who stay for a fuckin month or longer cleaning it up...

And is the powers that be now saying feathers are ok to justify all the sanctioned feather wearers (chicken lady) we seek pics now?

It seems that somebody has made a decision - http://survival.burningman.com/transpor ... exI1PlsuB8

[trilobyte]

@Lonesomebri - It was already okay with Burning Man (as far as I know, the shoot was registered with media mecca). What was both uncool and unfortunate was all the people who used the dated policy as justification to treat the person horribly and bully the fuck out of her on the internet.

@mrchiff - as per the most recent Jack Rabbit Speaks newsletter, that policy has changed.

[graidawg]

because it's on YOU if they become MOOP

So the hotty with the feathers from last year that got pictures published all the over place, that is okay now..... I forget if we decided if it was okay then, but at least the powers that be smiled favorably on her in retrospect and gave this post-pardon. What I like about this is that while I am no hotty with a feather fetish, or her enablers, I can now relax knowing that my playa sins are only on ME. I can be a pretty forgiving person when it comes to the crap I do.

it seems to me that is the BMorg policy now.

dont like PnP camps? = well we do so we are going to allow them
don't like feathers? = well we invited some on playa so we are changing the rules
don't like people making money via BM? nor do we (unless we do it or get a cut)

now that BMorg is getting ready to sell, they just want to be sure that all money streams are theres to control. Which really doesn't bother me that much TBH but lets no kid ourselves it's all about the $$$$$$$$

[Elderberry]

Getting ready to sell!

[lemur]

lets no kid ourselves it's all about the $$$$$$$$

i think everyone seems to forget this.. like, in everything they think about burning man.


ITS A BUSINESS

its not like some nefarious secret.

they profit off of this shit.

hate to break it to ya.. but a business is in it for the $$$!!!

[CornMan]

lets no kid ourselves it's all about the $$$$$$$$

i think everyone seems to forget this.. like, in everything they think about burning man.


ITS A BUSINESS

its not like some nefarious secret.

they profit off of this shit.

hate to break it to ya.. but a business is in it for the $$$!!!

I disagree, I think it's a counterculture art festival first, and a money making venture after that. They didn't burn the man at Baker Beach to try to get some kind of cash cow in motion.

[ygmir]

county fairs used to be free, too.

[Eric]

Getting ready to sell!

Yep - to the Burning Man Project (the non-profit that's taking over). I don't remember when the final transition is, but I think it was 5 years from when it was announced (so 2016).

Lemur is correct - it's currently a privately held company that has the gall to pay the people who work there. Once they transition, they will still be paying the people that work there, but it won't be about profit, it will be about 'spreading the ideals of Burning Man into the world' or something. Not that it's currently about profit, but having a non-profit run it removes that argument from play.

Also, being a business (since 1996) doesn't have anything to do with how it started out, it's about how it grew. My employer didn't set out to become a business either, it was a fun little party that grew. Doesn't make it less of a business now.

[CornMan]

I still don't believe it's a business mainly interested in revenue generation. If they were to consistently break even with payroll met, I do not believe they would start compromising the principles in order to get profits up.

[lemur]

I still don't believe it's a business mainly interested in revenue generation.

someone give the marketing department a raise!

[CornMan]

The fact that they decided to make Burning Man a non-profit says something - unless there is some nefarious conspiracy why they're doing that.

[lemur]

maybe theyll just contract out all of their operating costs to burner businesses which are for profit!

awesome PR marketing job for the burners who hate profit making off of them? CHECK

make shitloads of cash in hollywood accounting style scheme? CHA-CHING!!!

[Elderberry]

Getting ready to sell!

Yep - to the Burning Man Project (the non-profit that's taking over). I don't remember when the final transition is, but I think it was 5 years from when it was announced (so 2016).

Lemur is correct - it's currently a privately held company that has the gall to pay the people who work there. Once they transition, they will still be paying the people that work there, but it won't be about profit, it will be about 'spreading the ideals of Burning Man into the world' or something. Not that it's currently about profit, but having a non-profit run it removes that argument from play.

Also, being a business (since 1996) doesn't have anything to do with how it started out, it's about how it grew. My employer didn't set out to become a business either, it was a fun little party that grew. Doesn't make it less of a business now.

OK I was aware of that.

BTW I know several nonprofit organizations that pay their board members VERY well. It won't make the event any less expensive, maybe just a bit more transparent.

[trilobyte]

Funny stuff, Graidawg.

[graidawg]

thanks Trilo, I guess one thing i have found over the years is that people like to complain. if they can't find anything else to bitch about they will (eventually) whine about the bacon

[CornMan]

thanks Trilo, I guess one thing i have found over the years is that people like to complain. if they can't find anything else to bitch about they will (eventually) whine about the bacon

Now this is getting just too good to not write down somewhere.

[BBadger]

Of course feathers are okay. You just have to encase them in amber or rock.

[AntiM]

Feathers made of bacon. Dream big.

[tatonka]

[media]

[Lonesomebri]

@Lonesomebri - It was already okay with Burning Man (as far as I know, the shoot was registered with media mecca). What was both uncool and unfortunate was all the people who used the dated policy as justification...

if they can't find anything else to bitch about they will (eventually) whine about the bacon

I suppose that if the org specifically tell everyone else that bacon was not allowed and then allowed photos of one person joyessly eating bacon at the burn, that might bring some bacon complaints. I think what had people most interested is that rules were laid down in writting for the masses to adhere to (no feathers) and then, I suppose, media mecca decided on who doesn't follow the same rules everyone else was requested to abide by. That "might" be the problem that caused the uproar that poor hotty was then subjected to. As with the moop issue, it's all on THEM. Just my opinion.

[Elderberry]

Rules, for the most part, are for stupid people. It's always been that way since the beginning of time, codified in the practice of religion. They keep people in line and help them do what's right when they can't figure it out for themselves.

A stupid person would bring feathers to the playa and leave a trail of them wherever they went. An insightful person would bring feathers only after assuring that they wouldn't shed and in the event that some did, would have a plan for mooping them up immediately.

Same with bringing glass to the playa, or pistachio shells, or party favors, etc. etc.

[trilobyte]

It may surprise you to learn that people who make rules will, from time to time, make exceptions to those rules on a case by case basis. Just like the Shady Asylum folks were given an exception approval to have grass on the playa last year (they submitted comprehensive plans to do it right and prevent moop). Every filming project on the playa that's not for personal use needs to go through the process of submitting proposals for review. By the way, a sure sign that the project has been approved and that Burning Man is okay with the content is that Burning Man is posting links to the pics. Stuff that doesn't have approval (for example, that deplorable champagne ad) doesn't end up getting promoted on the official FB/Twitter pages.

There is no justification for treating other people horribly or playing internet bully. Sure, express your disappointment or weigh in with an opinion, but persecuting others for perceived infractions of Burning Man's rules is misguided vigilanteism at best.

[Lonesomebri]

Not surprised that people making rules also make exceptions to those rules, nor surprised that others might see things in another perspective from the rule makers and the exceptions. I don't think the problem was that the complainers were as mad that the feather girl was flaunting the rules, as that the rules were being flaunted for that endevour. Again, it bothered people that they were told one thing while it was obviously not that important. Really not surprised that authorities telling all burners to not do something while having exceptions approved by the rule makers would bring out the ornery and snarky. Totally not surprised.

[forty_eight]

persecuting others for perceived infractions of Burning Man's rules is misguided vigilanteism at best.

And so was born Zimmerman Village ... leave you feather laden hoodies at home. Trust me, lol.

[Ugly Dougly]

READY TO GO!