Politics, Everyday, All day... morning, noon and night....

[Rabbi Dali Rick]

WHAT IS A TRAGEDY?

President George Bush was visiting a primary school.

One of the classes was in the middle of a discussion related to words and
their meanings.

The teacher asked the president if he would like to lead the discussion on the
word "tragedy".

So the illustrious USA leader asked the class for an example of a tragedy.

Little Jimmy stood up and offered: "If my best friend, who lives on a farm,
is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills him, that  would
be a tragedy."

"No," said Bush, "that would be an accident."

Little Suzie raised her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children drove
over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a tragedy."

"I'm afraid not." explained the president. "That's what we would call a great
loss."
The room went silent. No other children volunteered.

President Bush searched the room: "Isn't there someone here who can give me
an example of tragedy?"

Finally at the back of the room little Johnny raised his hand.

In a quiet voice he said: "If Air Force One carrying Mr. and Mrs. Bush was
struck by a friendly fire" missile and blown to smithereens, that would be a
tragedy."

Fantastic!" exclaimed President Bush. "That's right. And can you tell me why
that would be a tragedy?"

"Well," said little Johnny, "it has to be a tragedy because it wouldn't be a
great loss and it wouldn't be an accident either."

[Q_]

WHAT IS A TRAGEDY?

"

Oh god, I am dying over here!!!! Someone call a doctor I can't breathe I am laughing so hard!!!

[Simply Joel]

aggravated assault with a deadly weapon or freedom of expression?

feel free to comment.

Police: Driver Tried to Run Over Katherine Harris

Wed Oct 27, 2:12 PM ET Oddly Enough - Reuters

MIAMI (Reuters) - A Florida motorist was arrested on Wednesday on charges of trying to run down U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris at an intersection where the controversial former state elections chief was campaigning for re-election to Congress.

The Republican lawmaker and several supporters were campaigning alongside a street corner in her hometown of Sarasota Tuesday evening. A silver Cadillac sped toward them, drove up onto the sidewalk where Harris stood, and then swerved away at the last minute, the Sarasota police report said.

No one was hurt. Witnesses noted the car's license tag number and police tracked the owner, Barry Seltzer, 46, of Sarasota, who was jailed early Wednesday on a charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He said he was annoyed because some of Harris' supporters were blocking traffic, the arrest report said.

"I was exercising my political expression," it quoted him as saying. "I did not run them down, I scared them a little."

Harris was Florida's secretary of state and its top election official during the state's presidential ballot recount battle in 2000. Vilified by Democrats for her role in halting the recounts, she was elected to the House of Representatives in her heavily Republican district in 2002 and faces Democratic challenger Jan Schneider in Tuesday's election

[cowboyangel]

WHAT IS A TRAGEDY?

President George Bush was visiting a primary school.

One of the classes was in the middle of a discussion related to words and
their meanings.

The teacher asked the president if he would like to lead the discussion on the
word "tragedy".

So the illustrious USA leader asked the class for an example of a tragedy.

Little Jimmy stood up and offered: "If my best friend, who lives on a farm,
is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills him, that would
be a tragedy."

"No," said Bush, "that would be an accident."

Little Suzie raised her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children drove
over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a tragedy."

"I'm afraid not." explained the president. "That's what we would call a great
loss."
The room went silent. No other children volunteered.

President Bush searched the room: "Isn't there someone here who can give me
an example of tragedy?"

Finally at the back of the room little Johnny raised his hand.

In a quiet voice he said: "If Air Force One carrying Mr. and Mrs. Bush was
struck by a friendly fire" missile and blown to smithereens, that would be a
tragedy."

Fantastic!" exclaimed President Bush. "That's right. And can you tell me why
that would be a tragedy?"

"Well," said little Johnny, "it has to be a tragedy because it wouldn't be a
great loss and it wouldn't be an accident either."

Ok Rabbi, with that I'm converting to Judaism!

[Simply Joel]

October 28, 2004

A Hole in the Heart
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

When you read polls showing a significant number of Americans feel our country is on the wrong track, what do you think is bothering people? I think it's a deep worry that there is a hole in the heart of the world - the moderate center seems to be getting torn asunder. That has many people worried. And they are right to be worried.

American politics is so polarized today that there is no center, only sides. Israeli politics has become divided nearly to the point of civil war. In the Arab-Muslim world, where the moderate center was always a fragile flower, the political moderates are on the defensive everywhere, and moderate Muslim spiritual leaders seem almost nonexistent.

Europe, for its part, has gone so crazy over the Bush administration that the normally thoughtful Guardian newspaper completely lost its mind last week and published a column that openly hoped for the assassination of President Bush, saying: "John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. - where are you now that we need you?" (The writer apologized later.) Meanwhile, French and German leaders seem to be competing over who can say more categorically that they will never send troops to help out in Iraq - even though the help needed now is to organize the first U.N.-supervised democratic election in that country.

How do we begin to repair this jagged hole? There is no cure-all, but three big things would help. One is a different U.S. approach to the world. The Bush-Cheney team bears a big responsibility for this hole because it nakedly exploited 9/11 to push a far-right Republican agenda, domestically and globally, for which it had no mandate. When U.S. policy makes such a profound lurch to the right, when we start exporting fear instead of hope, the whole center of gravity of the world is affected. Countries reposition themselves in relation to us.

Had the administration been more competent in pursuing its policies in Iraq - which can still turn out decently - the hole in the heart of the world might not have gotten so large and jagged.

I have been struck by how many foreign dignitaries have begged me lately for news that Bush will lose. This Bush team has made itself so radioactive it glows in the dark. When the world liked Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan, America had more power in the world. When much of the world detests George Bush, America has less power. People do not want to be seen standing next to us. It doesn't mean we should run our foreign policy as a popularity contest, but it does mean that leading is not just about making decisions - it's also the ability to communicate, follow through and persuade.

If the Bush team wins re-election, unless it undergoes a policy lobotomy and changes course and tone, the breach between America and the rest of the world will only get larger. But all Mr. Bush and Dick Cheney have told us during this campaign is that they have made no mistakes and see no reason to change.

The second thing that is necessary to heal the hole in the world is a decent Iraqi election. If such an election can be brought off, the Europeans, the Arabs and the American left will have to rethink their positions. I know what I am for in Iraq: a real election and a decent government. The Europeans, the Arabs and the American left know what they are against in Iraq: George Bush and his policies. But if there is an elected Iraqi government, it could be the magnet to begin pulling the moderate center of the world back together, because a duly elected Iraqi government is something everyone should want to help.

The real question is, What if we get a new Iraqi government but the same old Bush team incompetence? That would be a problem. Even an elected Iraqi government will see its legitimacy wane if we cannot help it provide basic security and jobs.

Last, we need to hope that Ariel Sharon's hugely important effort to withdraw Israel from Gaza will pave the way for a resumption of negotiations with the Palestinians. When there is no peace in the Holy Land, and when America has no diplomacy going on there, the world is always more polarized.

I am no Sharon fan, but I am impressed. Mr. Sharon's willingness to look his own ideology and his own political base in the eye, conclude that pandering to both of them is no longer in his country's national interest, and then risk his life and political career to change course is an example of leadership you just don't see much of any more in democracies.

I wonder what Karl Rove thinks of it?

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

[cowboyangel]

hey Joel....when are you ever gonna get your head outta the fuckin political fuck bag and get yourself a big drink down at the bar before your head turns brown?

[sparkletarte]

Earlier I said:

If Bush can do it, so can I! No, sorry, regular American, you can't. The system isn't set up that way, they just want you to think it is.

I need to retract this statement- it's been bothering me. I do believe that you can do whatever you want in life, as long as you set your mind to it and perservere. Some things are harder than others. This would be hard, and I think the system would be stacked against you, but you could still try to be president if you want to.

[sparkletarte]

Here. Read this. Ugh. Even if you think the first part about the accident is just a coincidence, the rest of it is pretty bothersome, to say the least.

From here: http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0410159/ ... vote.shtml

~~~~

2004 US election - True vote or computer fraud?


by Bo Filter



Tribute to Athan Lee Gibbs, Sr.


Athan Gibbs died under suspicious circumstances in a two-vehicle collision just north of Nashville on March 12. He had begun marketing the US-government-certified TruVote voter validation and verification system, a touch screen machine that gives voters a verifiable paper audit trail.

The machine issues a number that the voter can verify through an election office printout, a toll free number or a secure site on the internet. The machine rectifies voting irregularities cited by a joint study conducted by the Carnegie Corporation, Cal Tech and MIT. The joint project found that between four and six million votes were lost in the 2000 election. The Tennessee General Assembly presented Gibbs with a joint resolution honouring his invention.

In Washington, Congress is deliberating bills that will mandate Gibbs’s voter verifiable paper audit trail (VVPAT). Some States have moved ahead. Ohio, Nevada and California have executive orders directing county election officials to only buy electronic voting machines equipped with the VVPAT.

Gibbs was driven by his experiences growing up in Memphis. During the 1950s and ‘60s, he watched minorities struggle to exercise their right to vote. He decided to act after reviewing a US study of the 2000 presidential election. The Commission on Civil Rights found that votes cast by African-Americans in the decisive state of Florida were 10 times more likely to be rejected. Readers may recall the many media reports of complaints during that election about large numbers of missing votes from democratically controlled black counties.

Just prior to the election, Jeb Bush, Florida’s governor and brother of the president, openly boasted on television that he would “deliver Florida” to the Republican ticket. On election day voter complaints forced a recount. Al Gore appeared to be winning. The count was stopped. Then, without a Constitutional mandate, a Republican-filled supreme court appointed George W. Bush to the presidency. To stop the vote and impose authority constitutes a coup d’etat, a denunciation of democratic process. Why Americans did not revolt is unclear.

To put salve on the wound, the state of Florida declared that sweeping election reforms would be legislated. Yet, the 2002 primary election proved to be no better. Electronic voting machines continued to make votes disappear. For instance, in Boca Raton, popular mayor Emil Danciu came in third, 8 percent under expectations. He suspected foul play when his stronghold home precinct reported low numbers.

Electronic voting system expert Rebecca Mercuri reported during court proceedings that California-based Sequoia Voting Systems had sold its machines under trade secret protection, disallowing proper inspection. So what is Sequoia?

According to researcher Steve Moore, Sequoia is one of three voting-system manufacturers, all Republican-led corporations actively trying to elect Bush. The other two are Ohio-based Diebold Election Systems and Omaha-based Election Systems and Software. Moore observes that by leaving “absolutely no verifiable paper trail,” the big three are helping to rig the November 2 election, instigating a “bloodless coup.” Moore backs up his claim by pointing to 2002 voting results. For example, in Georgia, incumbent Democratic Governor Ray Barnes was defeated, giving the Republicans their first victory there in 134 years. The poll results showed a miraculous 12-point shift in the last 48 hours. Right after the vote, Diebold erased all the ballots, leaving no record or paper trail. In Minnesota and Colorado, Senate races produced the same surprise Republican victories, giving them control of the US Senate.
Diebold’s CEO, Walden O’Dell is a major fundraiser for Bush, writing to contributors in 2003 that he was “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes for the president next year.” With the big three’s machines in many other states, an election landslide seems eminent. So what might save the day in the last hour?

A California voting systems panel has charged O’Dell with deceptive business practices, which may lead to criminal charges. For instance, Diebold installed uncertified software in its machines in 17 counties without notifying state officials. Worse, a manipulation mechanism was found hidden in the Diebold central tabulator. A two-digit code creates a second vote set, which in turn cues the voting system to read the totals from the bogus set of votes. The design took a dozen version adjustments to perfect, according to researcher Bev Harris. If a vote is not changed, it can go missing. Diebold spokesman David Bear told Vanity Fair that negative votes can be entered into its machines.

Researcher Lynn Landes says that voting machines will produce all of the election results for the upcoming 2004 presidential election, while Newsweek reports that they will be used by about 28 percent of the country, quite a discrepancy but still enough to throw the election. If Republicans stole Senate power in the 2002 election, what can we expect for 2004? The number of states requiring VVPAT machines appears too small to hold off a massive voting sham. Landes warns her fellow Americans that they are “missing the boat on the biggest crisis facing our democracy … Americans aren’t really voting. Machines are. Call it faking democracy.” Their government will not be coming to the rescue. Hilary Clinton has co-sponsored a bill to require a paper trail, but it has been stalled in Congress. Only seven of 229 Republicans have signed on to the bill, prompting Steve Moore to wonder if “they’ve got Georgia on their minds.” Athan Gibbs’s dream will have to wait a little longer, providing that the individual states can wake up in time to do the job of Congress.


Bo Filter is author of the newly released book: The Cause of Wars and Aggression. www.globaljusticepublishing.com. See also www.globalresearch.ca and
www.blackboxvoting.org

[sparkletarte]

There was also an article on CBC news a few weeks ago that at some voter registration events, the forms filled out by people who checked Dem for their party were tossed. Isn't that nice.

[Alpha]

The tossed registrations pale in comparison to the allegations about the computer voting machines! It's so outlandish that I don't want to believe it, but deep down I start questioning whether I'm part of some Orwellian sheep factory....

[geekster]

For any of my Libertarian friends ... rather than cut/paste some stuff from Cato Institute, I will instead offer some links. One is a case for voting for Kerry, one is a case for Bush, one is criticism of both and one points out some intereting Kerry double-talk on Corporate Welfare. It is hard to be a Libertarian in our current system. The major parties make it very difficult. The members of the more established parties seem to be very inflexible and intolerant in their thinking. Being a Libertarian often means that both the Republicans and the Democrats dislike your positions and reasoning. So be it. Some of the stuff here might make you think ... or not.

Case for Kerry
Case for Bush
Education Tossup
Kerry Corporate Welfare

[geekster]

http://badnarik.org/plans.php

[Simply Joel]

hey Joel....when are you ever gonna get your head outta the fuckin political fuck bag and get yourself a big drink down at the bar before your head turns brown?

'bout the time you get your head out of the clouds and feet on the ground

[sparkletarte]

deep down I start questioning whether I'm part of some Orwellian sheep factory

Perhaps, although I'd say for sure you are part of a huge hypocracy, or illusion if you'd rather. Sounds like a lot of people are prepared to settle the election with courts and laywers. Ahhhh, 'democracy' in action, brought to you by Disney.



<no offense stuart, just referring to a manufactured reality>

[samtzu]

deep down I start questioning whether I'm part of some Orwellian sheep factory

Perhaps, although I'd say for sure you are part of a huge hypocracy, or illusion if you'd rather. Sounds like a lot of people are prepared to settle the election with courts and laywers. Ahhhh, 'democracy' in action, brought to you by Disney.
<no offense stuart, just referring to a manufactured reality>

This is the perfect description of Western Civilization since the advent of the Industrial Revolution (which was a revolution of Finance). As Saint John said, "You better free your mind instead"

[DVD Burner]

Any chance The Carlyle Group has the munitions?

[Simply Joel]

FORTY EXCUSES AND A MULE

White liberals have been indulging their fantasies of violence against conservatives lately -- physically attacking conservatives, ransacking Bush-Cheney headquarters (though not any NRA headquarters, I note). The white wife of vice presidential candidate John Edwards recently warned of riots unless Kerry is elected.

fear-mongoring by warning of riots in the streets?

In the midst of this rash of violence by white liberals, this week Al Gore admonished a group of blacks not to engage in violence over the election. Perhaps Gore should have saved that speech for a convocation of Moveon.org members.

And Democrats wonder why they have to ask white people to hold "African-Americans for Kerry-Edwards" signs at their rallies -- as happened in St. Petersburg, Fla., last Saturday. The Kerry campaign is hemorrhaging black voters like teenaged girls fleeing an R. Kelly house party. None of the Democrats' top black leaders -- Jesse, Al, Bill Clinton -- has been able to stem the tide.

Here's the deal on politics and race in America: Republicans don't need black voters, but they want them. Democrats don't want black voters, but they need them. Blacks have been the Democrats' most loyal voters, typically giving the party upward of 90 percent of their vote. But Democrats ignore blacks.

That's according to none other than the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who said precisely that in a speech to "Campaign for America's Future" at the Democratic National Convention this summer.

Now, with the election less than a week away, the Kerry campaign is dashing off to every black church in the country. Bill Clinton had to interrupt an important sponge bath with someone named "Bunny" to come to Kerry's rescue in Philadelphia. (Possible slogan: "Kerry -- The Same as Clinton, Without the Burning Sensation.")

The Democrats' inspired 11th-hour message to black voters is: Here are your crumbs, your scraps, your measly handouts. Too bad you're so childish, incompetent and dependent, huh? Now run along and cast your vote for the guy with the "D" next to his name and we'll see you in four years, 'K? Buh-bye, now.

With no fanfare, President Bush has placed black stars like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in top positions in his administration. Kerry waited for complaints that the only black people in his campaign were setting up folding chairs at rallies before finding blacks for any prominent positions. (Another campaign slogan: "John Kerry: Pretending to Fight for Blacks Since Very Recently.")

Among loony liberal ideas polling especially badly among blacks is the Democrats' gusto for gay marriage.

Gay marriage is a tricky issue for the Democrats due to the fact that -- like taxes, defense and education -- they are forced to lie about their position when running for office. In other words, Democrats are gay marriage supporters trapped in the bodies of candidates who oppose gay marriage. And no issue-reassignment surgery can help them.

By contrast, blacks -- like Republicans and most Americans in general -- not only believe gay marriage is wrong, but are willing to publicly state this belief.

Bush opposes gay marriage. Kerry is for it -- and he has always been consistent on that by taking every position imaginable on gay marriage. Kerry's got more gay marriage positions than the Kama-sutra, including the "yawning dog," the "courtesan's dilemma" and the "flip-flopping weasel."

Campaigning in Missouri about a month ago, Kerry began the day saying he was opposed to Missouri's constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. By the end of the day, Kerry was claiming he supported the amendment and, indeed, that his position on gay marriage was identical to Bush's.

Later, Kerry retracted his support for the Missouri marriage amendment, telling a gay magazine that he hadn't read the amendment and, in fact, he opposed it. (More campaign slogan ideas: "John Kerry won't just take a stand on the tough issues -- he'll take two or three of them!")

When Kerry's strategy of being both for gay marriage and against it failed to fool blacks, he sent Jesse Jackson out to black churches to tell the parishioners to set aside their views on gay marriage and vote for Kerry anyway. What are blacks getting out of this deal again?

Compensating for his progressive views on gay marriage, Kerry supports federal funding for partial-birth abortions. Taxpayer-supported abortion on demand should make "Emily's List" feminists happy, but it has not been a big hit with black ministers.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was quite explicit about using abortion as a tool to reduce the minority population. She said the goal of Planned Parenthood was to "give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization." Even today, talk to any white liberal about abortion and within 60 seconds he will raise the black "overpopulation" problem.

We hear a lot about the 2 million people in America's jails and how many of them are black, but we rarely talk about the 35 to 40 million abortions since Roe v. Wade and how many of those babies were black. When your position on black abortion is identical to the Klan's, maybe it's time to reconsider.

Kerry's supporters are reaching out to blacks by demanding that black cabdrivers in New York City who support Bush be fined and suspended. When taxi driver Etzer Jerome told his sensitive Upper West Side passenger he had voted for Bush, she demanded that he pull over and let her out, yelling at him: "How can a black man vote for Bush?" and "I'm going to f--- you!" She then filed a complaint against Jerome with the Taxi and Limousine Commission alleging that Jerome had "verbally harassed her." He was fined $500 and given a three-week suspension.

On the bright side, the Democrats offer black voters loads and loads of meaningless abstractions that will have absolutely no effect on their lives. "Jobs," for example. (Just not any of the important jobs in a Kerry administration.)

Democrats' extravagant claims about creating "jobs" are as credible as their claims that they will allow the wheelchair-bound to walk. Among the jobs that are currently not available to Americans are these being performed in China under a free-trade bill voted for by John Kerry. (New campaign slogan: "John Kerry: Betraying America Since 1971.")

And apparently, black voters can also look forward to a lot of patronizing demagoguery from the Democrats, such as the claim that Republicans maliciously suppressed the black vote in Florida in 2000.

Kerry claims Republicans disenfranchised 1 million black voters in Florida in 2000, but neglects to mention that after extensive and expensive hearings, the U.S. Civil Rights Commission failed to name a single one of them. Can you name just one out of that "million," Sen. Kerry? We've found more WMDs in Iraq than we've found disenfranchised blacks in Florida.

Indeed -- to the contrary! -- in 2000, blacks composed 11 percent of registered voters in Florida, but made up 17 percent of those who actually voted. If that's how Republicans "suppress" the black vote, blacks are better off when Republicans attack them than when Democrats pretend to be nice to them.

COPYRIGHT 2004 UNIVERSAL PRESS SYNDICATE

[DVD Burner]

Now.....

We got another spare pie fo Ann Coulter around here somewhere dont we?

[sparkletarte]

I can't belive there haven't already been riots in the streets from the results of the last 'election' and all other shit that's been going on since Bush became class prez.

I think we need a bunch of riots actually.

[Simply Joel]

October 29, 2004
Economy Grew at 3.7 Percent Rate in Last Quarter
By EDUARDO PORTER

The economy picked up speed in the third quarter of the year to expand at a 3.7 percent annual rate, the government reported today.

The growth in the nation's output of goods and services handily exceeded the 3.3 percent rate registered in the second quarter -when the economy was held back by a surge in energy prices that took a bite out of American household budgets and dented consumer spending.

Yet despite the third quarter's bounce, economists remained concerned that challenges from high oil prices and lackluster wage and job growth, too-weak exports and the end of corporate tax breaks could inhibit economic expansion in coming quarters.

"It's pretty good news on the economy," said Dick Rippe, chief economist of Prudential Equity Group. "But the uncertainty that hangs over the whole thing is oil. What oil prices do going forward is critical."

Coming out just days before the election, the report was seized on by supporters of both presidential candidates as providing support for their campaign positions.

The data released by the Commerce Department underscored the importance of consumers in keeping the economy moving.

Business investment remained robust in the quarter. Yet the accumulation of inventories slowed -a sign of business concern over future demand. Trade also exerted a drag on growth as exports grew substantially less than imports.

Indeed, nearly nine-tenths of the economic growth recorded during the third quarter was accounted for by personal consumption expenditures. Purchases of durable goods sped ahead by 16.8 percent, the fastest pace in over a year. Car sales alone accounted for more than a quarter of economic growth during the period.

"The American consumer is the spender of last resort for the world economy," said Richard B. Hoey, chief economist and chief investment strategist of the Dreyfus Corporation. "This has the side effect of a high trade deficit and a low savings rate."

Indeed, consumers also revealed a vulnerability that could hinder growth in coming months - because even as their spending accelerated, their income growth slowed, leading to a fall in the personal savings rate to 0.4 percent of disposable personal income, its lowest ever.

"Clearly, borrowing continues to be the major factor driving consumption, as low interest rates have sustained both car buying and the drawing down of home equity," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington.

The weak income picture was underscored by new figures from the Labor Department that showed wages of regular workers in the third quarter grew by merely 2.4 percent over the year before, the lowest rate on record, below the inflation rate of 2.7 percent during the period.

Mr. Baker added that business investment is likely to moderate next year as the tax breaks that allow businesses to quickly depreciate their investment expire at the end of 2004.

With the economy advancing at a moderate pace without substantial inflation, economists believe the Federal Reserve is likely to remain on the path of gradually increasing interest rates. The index of personal consumption expenditures minus food and energy -a favorite measure of the Fed chairman, Alan Greenspan- increased by merely 0.7 percent, its lowest gain in over four decades.

The third quarter economic growth was the last item of substantial economic news before the election Tuesday, and both sides on the political divide jumped on the release. "GDP continues to grow above the average of the 1970's, 80's and 90's while the unemployment rate remains below the average for those decades," Treasury Secretary John Snow said in a news release.

Yet the campaign of Senator John Kerry pointed out that business investment declined by 0.5 percent during President Bush's administration - the first time this has happened since the 1930's, while exports of goods also declined. "Most middle class families will find it difficult to swallow the Bush administration's spin that this is the best economy of our lifetime," said a statement by Gene Sperling, an economic adviser to Mr. Kerry.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

[Simply Joel]

I can't belive there haven't already been riots in the streets from the results of the last 'election' and all other shit that's been going on since Bush became class prez.

I think we need a bunch of riots actually.

canadians for anarchy in the usa?

was South Park the movie, correct?

[DVD Burner]

What Bush thinks of everyone.



Oh and btw Osama has show his head this minute.



What!............ he's still loose and alive?

[Q_]

/\

full flick:

http://static.vidvote.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov

[sparkletarte]

I haven't seen the movie, but sure. I think we could go for some riots here too, just on a smaller scale. Or least some bigger scale protests/activist type of stuff. I thought we were going to have a general strike a few years ago in BC. I was so disappointed when it didn't happen.

Those Europeans are all over that kind of shit.

[tisha2]

and there was some place in south america (sorry, i don't have cites) that wasn't happy with the newly chosen leader and everyone started banging pots & pans together in the streets every night at 6 for an hour until he resigned.

kept wanting to do that here 4 years ago...

[sparkletarte]

Yeah, we're too busy shopping and watching tv to do that kind of stuff. And my goodness, work production would go way down! Gotta protect that gdp!

[DVD Burner]

/\

full flick:

http://static.vidvote.com/movies/bushuncensored.mov

Thanks. I forgot to mention where the full flick was.

anyhoo, does'nt Bush look like the kinda Christian you want to be around. Yep he looks really responsible there dont he.

[Simply Joel]

THE FAITHLESS JOHN KERRY

Last Sunday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Sen. John Kerry gave a speech about faith and values in which he quoted the Bible really quite often.
As in: "My faith, and the faith I have seen in the lives of so many Americans, also teaches me that, 'Whatever you do to the least of these, you do unto me.'"

Kerry's private faith is his own, and I do not cast aspersions on it. But any voter has to wonder: Why is it that 10 days before a national election, John Kerry is suddenly spouting Scripture?

Fortunately, in these modern campaign days, we are not left to wonder long. Senior Kerry adviser Mike McCurry helpfully explained to The New York Times: "We know that Americans are a very faithful people; the vast majority believe in God and worship. Over 70 percent tell pollsters routinely that they want a president who is deeply grounded in faith and speaks to those issues."

Oh.

So what is the faith that Kerry is now professing to the 70 percent of Americans who tell pollsters they want a president who speaks about such things?

John Kerry is no John F. Kennedy. Kerry did not use his time to combat anti-Catholic stereotypes, but to perpetuate them. In particular, he respectfully disrespected those Catholic bishops who oppose abortion, suggesting they are trying to write Catholic religious doctrine into the law. "My task, as I see it, is not to write every doctrine into law. That is not possible or right in a pluralistic society. But my faith does give me values to live by and apply to the decisions I make."

What kind of decisions are guided by Kerry's faith?

"I believe we must keep faith, not only with the Creator, but also with present and future generations. ... Will we take action now to cut the cost of energy so that already overburdened seniors in the colder parts of our country can afford heat in the winter -- and here in Florida, stay cool and healthy in the heat of summer?"

Kerry's faith leads him to take strong moral stands in favor of ... lower air conditioning bills in Florida?

John Kerry is not even a Mario Cuomo, who took some political risks to defend his moral opposition to the death penalty.

And Kerry is certainly no Robert P. Casey, former governor of Pennsylvania. In Florida, Kerry asserted: "The ethical test of a good society is how it treats its most vulnerable members."

John Kerry claims that life begins at conception, but he cannot even bring himself to vote against partial-birth abortion, or to support the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which recognizes that when a pregnant woman is killed, two people (not one) have been murdered.

To John Kerry, the equal dignity of every human being is just a slogan, a "doctrine" he refuses to impose (read: defend) in a "pluralistic" society. Gov. Robert P. Casey was a Democrat who knew, to the contrary, that "the message of respect for human life is not just a religious message ... much less an exclusively Catholic or sectarian message," as he put it in his famous 1995 Notre Dame speech. "Abortion has not, and never will, take a permanent place in our culture. In a country whose whole reason for being is to affirm the goodness and the equality of all human life, how could such a thing ever fit in? ... No other country began with a promise on its sacred honor to love and protect all human life equally. That's a pledge only one nation on Earth is sworn to keep, and we know it, the people of this country know it."

But keeping faith, publicly, is not John Kerry's strong suit.

COPYRIGHT 2004 MAGGIE GALLAGHER

[Q_]

Interesting, check out the breaking news about the Osama tape on http://www.cnn.com

He knows more about our country than we do.

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Interesting, check out the breaking news about the Osama tape on http://www.cnn.com

He knows more about our country than we do.

Yep and he did'nt flower his speech with religous phrases, just blunt and straight to the point.