Exodus 2013

[unjonharley]

I just don't see the possibility of building a train depot that has a crane to offload containers for only one month out of the year, let alone building it in a federally-protected lake that actually has water in it sometimes.

And that's not even taking into account that the tracks are owned by BNSF(? some commercial shipping entity) who don't stand to make enough money on the deal as they could lose on the delays to freight trains.

Even if the railway saw a profit in a siding track... The cost to ship a container would be unbelievable.. Also, To many jaded old burners are going plug and play with air cooled RV's.. It is going to be up to the burners to settle for what there is..

[Lonesomebri]

I intend to extend my burn.. Planing a good entrance party in D lot.. With lemonade, finger food and music plus?? Same for exit.. Meet new friends and have actual conversations..

The only solution that really makes sense...... Enjoy it. My mistake is packing it all too tight and not being prepared to savor the bookends.

[maladroit]

If they see you having too much fun in D lot, they ground you for another 8 hours since you aren't taking your punishment seriously. With no TV!

[theCryptofishist]

If they see you having too much fun in D lot, they ground you for another 8 hours since you aren't taking your punishment seriously. With no TV!

And no beer!

[bradtem]

BNSF has usage rights on those tracks but does not own them as far as I know. I believe they are owned by the UP.

Traffic is light on them, and seems to be lighter with the shutdown of US Gypsum, which was the only serious user of the tracks in the area.

There are 3 possible rail scenarios:

1) Simply finding/booking an hour gap in track use, allowing a train to stop on the tracks in the Trego area for passengers and light cargo to get on/off and transfer to buses, art cars or their own bicycles. Unknown if practical to remove shipping containers in such a stop, those might have to go to Gerlach. This is obviously the cheapest option and shortest ride, if the UP could be convinced to allow it and that it's safe.

2) Construction of a railway siding along the tracks near the city, allowing safe transfer. UP might still be concerned having lots of people near the track while trains go past the siding, fencing might be needed as well. This is the ideal solution, but expensive and requires the most convincing.

3) Trains go to Gerlach and pull off on the existing siding for offload of shipping containers and passengers. Bus and truck shuttles to playa (using 12 mile entrance.) Almost surely the easiest to negotiate (but not even this has been practical in the past) but with the most work on shuttling logistics

Extra bonus credit -- arranging enough time on the track to go eastbound from the Patton village junction or similar to Gerlach instead of having to go to Winnemucca and backtrack. Probably difficult unless traffic has dropped a lot.

[maladroit]

I just want to know if my train ticket will be good for a transfer onto the BRC Subway.

[ranger magnum]

How much would it cost to expand 447 an extra lane?

It would be upwards of 500k per mile.

[marcgorcey]

How much would it cost to expand 447 an extra lane?

It would be upwards of 500k per mile.

Seems like a cheaper rate than rail, though:

http://www.acwr.com/railroad-site-selec ... iding.html

rule of thumb for new track construction is between $1 Million - $2 Million per mile, depending on who is constructing the track. Some rail clients need alot of track space to handle unit trains over a mile long. Below is a basic cost estimate for a mile long siding.

[maladroit]

It would be a lot cheaper if Burning Man was actually a work camp for the railway one year. Theme is "Hammersong" and instead of talking about John Frum, we talk about John Henry.

[knowmad]

actualy we talk about shitbags and the stuff they moop across the playa

[BBadger]

Yeah, let's pay for another lane of highway out to literally nowhere just so we can use it for one week a year. The idea is about as idiotic as buying solar panels only for use at Burning Man.

[lucky420]

Yeah, let's pay for another lane of highway out to literally nowhere just so we can use it for one week a year. The idea is about as idiotic as buying solar panels only for use at Burning Man.

Perfectly put.

[GreyCoyote]

We could call it the "Larry Harvey Memorial Hwy".

Except of course for the fact he is still very much alive.

[C187]

We could call it the "Larry Harvey Memorial Hwy".

Except of course for the fact he is still very much alive.

We can't plan ahead?

Anyway, I have one word to solve everyone's Exodus issues!

Airships

[goathead]

We could call it the "Larry Harvey Memorial Hwy".

Except of course for the fact he is still very much alive.

That is just a rumor.

[Simon of the Playa]

Airships

i can totally get behind that.

[Mojojita]

Funny...a couple of days ago there was a test of an experimental airship, near Tustin I think. Made for carrying heavy cargo. I believe the company was Worldwide Aeros or some such.

[maladroit]

Porn drives innovation, so if we allow the porn directors back into Burning Man they'll set up an efficient transport system in no time.

[Mojojita]

^ Hilarious!


Since the BRC population is now capped for some years to come under the agreement with the BLM, population growth is not really a factor - just the problem of getting people in and out more efficiently. Although I too had some initial queasiness about it, now I hope we can drastically increase use of the Burner Bus.

[BBadger]

[Simon of the Playa]

I hope we can drastically increase use of the Burner Bus.

i felt the uneasy as well until i got to see it first hand....i hitched out on monday to reno with one of the drivers....yeah, they got express lanes, but if you were willing to give up a "vehicle" and truly pack it in pack it out or have your logistics handled by others, then this is the way to go.

we are a large city, we need to continue to think in a civic manner as far as how to make things run like a swiss train.


on time, and cleanly...

public transportation will alleviate some of the inevitable issues that accompany 69,613 people driving to the same place.


but BBADGER is correct, i prefer dirigibles.

[Nipple]

we are a large city, we need to continue to think in a civic manner as far as how to make things run like a swiss train.

I can't take a pee in BRC, without a half hour conversation, a 15 minute wait for stragglers, and someone catching me just as I'm going into the bathroom to say "HEY! I SAID I WAS COMING!"

Someday everything will run like a Swiss train, that was sold to India.

[Lonesomebri]

So, has the consensus come around to supporting airships over locomotives? Which will rise to solve this BRC problem of the 21st Century?

[VultureChow]

So, has the consensus come around to supporting airships over locomotives? Which will rise to solve this BRC problem of the 21st Century?

Are we talking hydrogen or helium?

[unjonharley]

I'm betting the cap wont be reach again for a few years..

Many felt the enter and exit as a nudge in the nuts..

[stew]

tAre we talking hydrogen or helium?

Safety third.

[unjonharley]

Ah, The Eric way of doing things.

Burn shit and blow shit up

[Nipple]

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[Nipple]

Burning Man 2014: Just a bunch of balloons 2.0

[theCryptofishist]

Just a bunch of Hindenburg references.