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My butter doesn't fit

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:06 pm

In this modern day and age of globalization and standardization, this just amazes me.
We got this cute new butter dish, with a little butterfly on top as a handle:
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But the goddamm butter doesn't fit in it!
Apparently, in some places butter comes in longer and slimmer sticks. Here in Seattle it's shorter and thicker. I actually have to cut the butter sticks down first to fit, like so:
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Where do they sell butter that fits butter trays? Is this an East Coast/West Coast thing?
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by gyre » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:14 pm

Just wait till you try to get a toilet paper holder.


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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by EspressoDude » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:47 pm

captain: where was the holder made? that might be a clue... metric butter?
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by theCryptofishist » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:54 pm

I can see it, we'll all be measuring butter at our local supermarket and reporting back...
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by BoyScoutGirl » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:13 pm

Butter in SoCal is wider and shorter, like your Seattle type.

I remember narrower butter sticks from my childhood in New Jersey. I'd perfer narrow, honestly, as I bake and the larger surface area: volume ratio would make it soften faster...
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by GreyCoyote » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:27 pm

Ah. I see the problem. The picture is upside down. :mrgreen:
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Post by ygmir » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:49 pm

try turning it around.......
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Just_Joe » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:35 pm

I think the different sizes are an east/west of the Rockies thing.

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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by ygmir » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:39 pm

maybe measure the inside of the cover,, then, stand the butter on end, measure, then lay it down, measure, and see if it's as long as it is tall?
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Post by tamarakay » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:40 pm

I did look at grocery store. It's a mix here. Local store brand fits my fiesta ware.

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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Elorrum » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:45 pm

I love the internet sometimes. This does qualify as minutiae for me, I don't use butter much.

Wiki says:

"In the United States, butter sticks are usually produced and sold in 4-ounce sticks, wrapped in waxed paper and sold four to a carton. This practice is believed to have originated in 1907, when Swift and Company began packaging butter in this manner for mass distribution.[25]

Due to historical variances in butter printers, these sticks are commonly produced in two differing shapes:

The dominant shape east of the Rocky Mountains is the Elgin, or Eastern-pack shape. This shape was originally developed by the Elgin Butter Tub Company, founded in 1882 in Elgin, Illinois, and Rock Falls, Illinois. The sticks are 4¾ inches long and 1¼ inches (121 mm × 32 mm) wide, and are usually sold packed side-by-side in a rectangular container.[26] Among the early butter printers to use this shape was the Elgin Butter Cutter.
West of the Rocky Mountains, butter printers standardized on a different shape that is now referred to as the Western-pack shape.[26] These butter sticks are 3¼ inches long and 1½ inches wide (80 mm × 38 mm) and are typically sold in cube-shaped boxes stacked two by two.
Both sticks contain the same amount of butter, although most butter dishes are designed for Elgin-style butter sticks.

The stick's wrapper is usually marked off as eight tablespoons (120 ml/4.2 imp fl oz; 4.1 US fl oz); the actual volume of one stick is approximately nine tablespoons (130 ml/4.6 imp fl oz; 4.4 US fl oz)."
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by moonrise » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:08 pm

They're trying to make us FATTER with those short thick sticks and they've succeeded IMHO!!

We have BOTH here at most/all of the butter stores, ya just gotta look.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by BoyScoutGirl » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:45 pm

Elorrum wrote:...
The stick's wrapper is usually marked off as eight tablespoons (120 ml/4.2 imp fl oz; 4.1 US fl oz); the actual volume of one stick is approximately nine tablespoons (130 ml/4.6 imp fl oz; 4.4 US fl oz)."
So that explains why there always seems to be a little extra outside of the markings on one side or the other - I thought it was off-centered wrappers.


And Moonrise, you have an interesting point - a fatter stick of butter would mean a bigger "pat" per unit thickness.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by BBadger » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:44 am

Gee, and here I was thinking that one of those ZipLock disposable resealable containers for butter was The Way To Go.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:06 am

who cares about the size?



more importantly, do you leave it out? or refridgerate it...



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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by H.G.Crosby » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:08 am

here's the solution...

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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:23 am

Simon of the Playa wrote:who cares about the size?



more importantly, do you leave it out? or refridgerate it...



your answer will determine whether or not i ever talk to you again.
Well Simon I don't care about the size except for the original topic - it doesn't fit in the goddamm butter tray!

By the way, the photos are upside down when I view this from my iPhone but they are right side up when viewed from my laptop (which I posted from). Weird.

I like to keep it refrigerated and microwave it for about 9 seconds to soften it when I want to use it.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by BBadger » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:37 am

If it's salted butter you really don't need to refrigerate it; nothing will grow on it. If it's unsalted... well... why would you even have that on hand as spreadable butter? Bleh.
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Post by EspressoDude » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:40 am

wow...this is trending towards a TMI moment.....short and fat vs. long and thin buteer cutter. careful about buttering your buns and toast
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by ygmir » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:23 am

H.G.Crosby wrote:here's the solution...

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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by The Rod » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:10 pm

Butter dishes are the evap ponds of the butter world. The same question, Why do people still use them when better technology exists?

Butter bell crocks are the way to go.

They keep it soft, but insulate it so it doesnt melt in a hot kitchen. The water forms a protective layer against oxygen, the main culprit in rancidity.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:53 pm

I don't disagree, A-rock, but you must also take into account the First Mate Charlie's affinity for frilly glass and porcelain decorative thingies... without her my butter tray would be the wrapper it comes in.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Elorrum » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:04 pm

Maybe Margarine?
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Savannah » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:12 pm

Captain Goddammit, I've measured my butter and found it to be 4.5" x 1.25" x 1.25" (I'll bet that's smaller than anyone here was expecting). If that might be small enough for that pretty little dish, you will have luck with Safeway "O" brand organic butter. I've always noticed that it was more slender than Dairygold.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by BBadger » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:26 pm

Elorrum wrote:Maybe Margarine?
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Post by tamarakay » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:27 pm

Sooty, getting all mushy here. I love this thread, I love all you fuckos.
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Post by ygmir » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:39 pm

Savannah wrote:Captain Goddammit, I've measured my butter and found it to be 4.5" x 1.25" x 1.25" (I'll bet that's smaller than anyone here was expecting). If that might be small enough for that pretty little dish, you will have luck with Safeway "O" brand organic butter. I've always noticed that it was more slender than Dairygold.
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Box Burner » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:25 pm

Elorrum wrote:I love the internet sometimes. This does qualify as minutiae for me, I don't use butter much.

Wiki says:

"In the United States, butter sticks are usually produced and sold in 4-ounce sticks, wrapped in waxed paper and sold four to a carton. This practice is believed to have originated in 1907, when Swift and Company began packaging butter in this manner for mass distribution.[25]

Due to historical variances in butter printers, these sticks are commonly produced in two differing shapes:

The dominant shape east of the Rocky Mountains is the Elgin, or Eastern-pack shape. This shape was originally developed by the Elgin Butter Tub Company, founded in 1882 in Elgin, Illinois, and Rock Falls, Illinois. The sticks are 4¾ inches long and 1¼ inches (121 mm × 32 mm) wide, and are usually sold packed side-by-side in a rectangular container.[26] Among the early butter printers to use this shape was the Elgin Butter Cutter.
West of the Rocky Mountains, butter printers standardized on a different shape that is now referred to as the Western-pack shape.[26] These butter sticks are 3¼ inches long and 1½ inches wide (80 mm × 38 mm) and are typically sold in cube-shaped boxes stacked two by two.
Both sticks contain the same amount of butter, although most butter dishes are designed for Elgin-style butter sticks.

The stick's wrapper is usually marked off as eight tablespoons (120 ml/4.2 imp fl oz; 4.1 US fl oz); the actual volume of one stick is approximately nine tablespoons (130 ml/4.6 imp fl oz; 4.4 US fl oz)."
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Re: My butter doesn't fit

Post by Captain Goddammit » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:39 pm

I am in awe of the wealth of information eplayans can bestow upon any subject!
Savannah thanks for the tip, Safeway up here in Seattle may or may not have that but I'll check. I'm not above simply cutting "West Coast" size butter down to fit, but it's mildly annoying that it's necessary.
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