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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by AntiM » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:23 am

Yeah, I have a heavy 32 inch RCA sitting in the basement. No one wants them at all. Even the thrift shops won't touch them. We have a local recycler who might take it.

But then, I can't complain too much, since I won the new Vizio. Larry was even able to modify the entertainment center to hold it nicely. I worried, because that center was a bitch to get into the basement, and it will only come out in pieces now, so I really wanted the new TV to fit into it.

I can't set things on the curb here, too suburban. And this stretch has no sidewalks.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:23 am

Elliot wrote: I hereby nominate an item as the most difficult thing to get rid of: A 32 inch television of the old cathode ray tube type. Weighs around 150 pounds.
Still way easier to get rid of than those disagreeably tenacious 5 last pounds I have on my body.

I nominate them.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by The CO » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:37 am

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by theCryptofishist » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:56 am

AntiM wrote:Yeah, I have a heavy 32 inch RCA sitting in the basement. No one wants them at all. Even the thrift shops won't touch them. We have a local recycler who might take it.
Do they get pictures post-switch-to-digital?
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by gyre » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:59 am

Fishy, later crts and dvd recorders have digital tuners.
Others need a hidef or lodef tuner/convertor box.

Your area must be better off than I thought, Elliot.

The sonys aren't bad.

Most people getting rid of the hidef sony, samsung, etc crts replace them with something worse in quality.
Fashion fad.
Only problem is the older crts don't have the software to run as a computer monitor.

People have been known to throw out the thin screens when they replace them.
Crazy world.

No one steals crts.
That's a plus here.
They'll kill you for a piece of shit thin screen.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Elorrum » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:57 pm

Fishy, I have an old t.v. and still get free broadcast television reception. That is correct: television can be FREE. I know I do pay for a lot of things, but I don't like paying for the advertisements I have to watch, if it can be avoided. There was a government coupon program before the switch that subsidized my purchase of a digital to analog converter box that I run my home made antenna into. bingo. The picture is very good, but if the signal isn't strong enough it simply doesn't work. The old analog system at least allowed for poor reception, where the programs still made sense. It also seems to be a very sensitive as to signal origin direction. I can tune the signal strength by turning the antenna, sometimes 15 to 30 degrees makes a big difference. I had a big sony trinitron that I couldn't sell at a yard sale. Thankfully, the goodwill still took them when I needed it to be gone. I saved it's larger sibling and still enjoy it.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:10 pm

yeah I still use a 32" CRT tv, and have another, in case. Nothing wrong with it.
Elorrum: I don't know much about TV antennaes mine is on a pole leaning against my house. I'm interested in this sensitivity to direction stuff. I wonder if I could rig an "aimer"? do ya think? I get line of sight to Mt. Diablo, so when it was analog, got 20 some channels. Now, I get about 12, but off and on. I too got the boxes with the coupon when the switch was made.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Elorrum » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:30 pm

ygmir, here's a very cool website, it will actually show a map of your address, the broadcast towers, the stations, and shows vectors from your home to them... oh, I get so few chances to say "vectors." (I hope I'm using it correctly.) At ground level, where I am, I get interference from neighboring buildings. I do better if the antenna is placed near the furthest corner window. I'd love to have a rooftop antenna. I've found, on occasions when I really wanted to watch something, like, the Superbowl, I put the antenna outside on a tall stick and run the cord back through a window. My aimer involves turning the stick, and leaning the antenna against the wall.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:47 pm

(((Elorrum))) you know the most interesting things and turn them to practical use in ways that totally amaze me. 8) 8) 8)

Miss you all so much. I have been coming in and reading and not answering, sorry, just in a funk I guess.

But I have been thinking about you all, and how we met, and why I love you.

Oh! and I made 13 bottles of TinkerMom's special Apple Pie drink today!

*lines up glasses and fills them with Apple Pie"
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:51 pm

Apple Pie??? I definitely need that recipe!!! That's some deliciousness there.

Not having any of that available here, my daughter-in-law dared our way thru most of a bottle of Absenthe last night.

Probably not recommended?
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:53 pm

HI MDF!!
yeah that funk...........I seem there, too. dang it. not left the house yet, today.
thanks for the apple pie!!
I hope you feel better soon.
Come visit the "Cascadia" thread.....we're forming a new country.

Elorrum: What MDF said!!
I'm always in awe of the things you make.
That site says I can get 25 channels. but leaves out Bay area, and I get several of them, probably because they are line of sight, like KTVU, KRON and some others.
I bet, if I had a good (not broken arms, bent and wobbly) antennae, and it could be aimed, it'd do great. Thanks for that sight.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Elorrum » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:55 pm

Hiya MyDearFriend!!! Looks like the apple harvest has been well preserved. 13 bottles! Happy Saturday!
Reminds me to get over to my sister's house and get some free apples. They are small, and sometimes harbor small residents, so slicing first is important, but they also make great applesauce.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:00 pm

Elorrum wrote:Hiya MyDearFriend!!! Looks like the apple harvest has been well preserved. 13 bottles! Happy Saturday!
Reminds me to get over to my sister's house and get some free apples. They are small, and sometimes harbor small residents, so slicing first is important, but they also make great applesauce.
"small residents"........reminds me that nothing is quite so unique as finding half a worm in the apply you just bit..

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:38 pm

Elorrum wrote:Hiya MyDearFriend!!! Looks like the apple harvest has been well preserved. 13 bottles! Happy Saturday!
Reminds me to get over to my sister's house and get some free apples. They are small, and sometimes harbor small residents, so slicing first is important, but they also make great applesauce.
The apples we got at a local orchard are really great this year; crisp & sweet & crunchy and the juice runs down your arm. 8) And I bought 2 jars of apple butter, for Thanksgiving pies. :D
delle wrote:Apple Pie??? I definitely need that recipe!!! That's some deliciousness there.

Not having any of that available here, my daughter-in-law dared our way thru most of a bottle of Absenthe last night.

Probably not recommended?
No! Not recommended! :lol: I will bring you a bottle of Apple Pie, to your house, on November 5. 8)
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:46 pm

MyDearFriend wrote:.
No! Not recommended! :lol: I will bring you a bottle of Apple Pie, to your house, on November 5. 8)

Everything about that makes me very, very happy!
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:59 pm

delle wrote:
MyDearFriend wrote:.
No! Not recommended! :lol: I will bring you a bottle of Apple Pie, to your house, on November 5. 8)

Everything about that makes me very, very happy!
Me, too. I am going to visit with VultureChow & Bobbin on my way north. 8) And I am trying not to be grumpy about having to wait until November!
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:02 pm

You don't look particularly grumpy to me.

Good job!!!

:-)
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:13 pm

Delle, do you remember this? I have never forgotten it!

Subject: Starting from Zero can be fun too!
delle wrote:I'm just an old broad who likes to burn stuff. Interesting stuff. Big stuff.

I'm also quite fond of people. All kinds of people.

Tho I've been intrigued by and drawn to the whole idea of BM for years, I never thought I'd get there. My life is too mundane and structured of late. Just doing the day to day is starting to get to me. I'm dying a slow and hardly noticeable uniformed death of boredom by day - boredom by night.

Something's gotta give!!!! Shit's gotta CHANGE!!!

This became most abundantly clear on Hallowe'en when I strolled into the bar with my blanket crudely tied around my neck, looking like my makeup had been applied by a schizophrenic drive-by. A Barbie hung by her hair from my utility belt, with a bottle of lighter fluid nestled next to her.

That my triumphant stance and loud announcement that "I'd dressed MYSELF today!!!"
If that bar is still open, I would like to have a drink there with you. Barbies optional. 8)
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:26 pm

So unfortunate that about 9/10ths of that post went missing when the site changed venues. And the tell-tale muck that my french keyboard made with the transfer. Oh well....

The bar is definitely still there, but closed Monday thru Wednesday. We can still go visit, tho -- they're friends. We'll just have to "fill up the place" with our own bad selves.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:56 pm

I wish it weren't so far, I'd attempt to bribe my way onto the guest list!

About getting rid of old TVs... this top secret underground footage shows my system getting rid of old ones by reducing them to teeny, tiny pieces, then bagging them up and tossing them.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:07 pm

That would be fun, Captain G!

If they are closed, Delle, we can park our Barbies against the window, so they can stare disconsolately inside with their little blankets tied round their necks, brainless grins plastered to their faces...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:19 pm

Wish you could be there too, Captain!!

Even if they're closed, they'll open for us.

Instead, I think we could maybe work together on wee project: Chain a blindfolded Ken's hands behind his back, pour him a nice little cement block up to his knees and throw him off the pier at the public swimming area here.

Then, next spring, hopefully I'll be sitting on the beach with my camera when some poor child finds it after thaw.

Sound like fun??
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by gyre » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:23 pm

Yagis are the most directional and frequency specific.
I'd use those where you are, Yggie.

Here is the main site for this sort of info, new or old stuff.
http://www.avsforum.com/f/

This is just for the lodef convertor boxes.
http://www.avsforum.com/f/186/coupon-el ... r-box-cecb

Video help is a more technical forum.
It has region hacks for dvd decks.

For anyone wanting to save money, the sfp sonys are far better than any lcd screen.
They have been high, but the market is saturated and they are dropping to cheap cheap, even finely tuned versions on the west coast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-fine_pitch
The model list is incomplete.
Some tvs have digital tuners/atsc that are not listed on the specs, for many companies.

Most common models are 910, 940, and 960- the best one.
1400 lines horizontal, like a photo.
Sony also made a 40" in 800 line hidef.
These turn up, but are older.
There are better crts. including one that still brings a $1000.
Expect to pay Zero to $100 for an sfp, esp with stand.
They were worth $250 not long ago.

Sony actually introduced hidef projectors in the usa in 1982.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:35 pm

For the record, and just because I'll probably never have this opportunity again, and because it just bothers me SO MUCH that that last sentence isn't finished, which makes it a bit of a head scratcher, Here is as close as I can recall to what finished it. The 46 or so paragraphs that followed are lost forever.
delle wrote: That my triumphant stance and loud announcement that "I'd dressed MYSELF today!!!" was met with confused looks rather than the resounding applause I'd been anticipating, I finally had to face the realization that maybe I was in the wrong place
Worry is a misuse of imagination

She had blue skin, And so did he.
He kept it hid And so did she.
They searched for blue Their whole life through,
Then passed right by- And never knew.”

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:42 pm

delle wrote:For the record, and just because I'll probably never have this opportunity again, and because it just bothers me SO MUCH that that last sentence isn't finished, which makes it a bit of a head scratcher, Here is as close as I can recall to what finished it. The 46 or so paragraphs that followed are lost forever.
delle wrote: That my triumphant stance and loud announcement that "I'd dressed MYSELF today!!!" was met with confused looks rather than the resounding applause I'd been anticipating, I finally had to face the realization that maybe I was in the wrong place
Yes yes!!! 8) 8) 8) That's what I remember: recognizing the feeling that, damn there is a place where I belong but it is NOT HERE. :?



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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by MyDearFriend » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:28 pm

Oh and YES I would love to sink a Ken off the end of your pier, Delle. 8) I think I have a short length of rusty chain somewhere... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:32 pm

dang...........I'm with you Cap'n, I'd even pay a nickel to go!!
what fun MDF's trip sounds!!!

haha I so remember when Delle was "new"............like a dirvish/berserker/happy clown with a hatchet. Infectious.

ha Gyre! did you search for an antennae that sounded like my name?
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:35 pm

MyDearFriend wrote:
delle wrote:For the record, and just because I'll probably never have this opportunity again, and because it just bothers me SO MUCH that that last sentence isn't finished, which makes it a bit of a head scratcher, Here is as close as I can recall to what finished it. The 46 or so paragraphs that followed are lost forever.
delle wrote: That my triumphant stance and loud announcement that "I'd dressed MYSELF today!!!" was met with confused looks rather than the resounding applause I'd been anticipating, I finally had to face the realization that maybe I was in the wrong place
Yes yes!!! 8) 8) 8) That's what I remember: recognizing the feeling that, damn there is a place where I belong but it is NOT HERE. :?



Fun-Havers of the world, UNTIE!

yes I know it should probably be "unite" but that's not as much fun
the above may be one of the best conversations I've read here. at least for me. I so feel part of it, and fitting.......like there are "others", and we can have fun.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by gyre » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:38 pm

Ha!
No, it's just the design for long range and more importantly, rejecting other interference.
They can be used in multiples too.


Blonder tongue makes some really rugged ones that will take mountain winds and anything else.
Older antennas may need to be rebuilt or cleaned to resolve corrosion issues.
Silicone dielectric can protect the connections.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by theCryptofishist » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:49 pm

[urlhttp://www.kqed.org/arts/visualarts/article.jsp?essid=126590]... and instead we got some third rate Burning Man rip-off abbreviated rock show with smoke and mirrors, no art, no train, and everything but our DNA stripped at the door.[/url]
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