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DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:42 am

Oh and "slap my salmon baby!

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/digicastipv7/salmon[1].asf

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:44 am

Simply Joel wrote:
'cause i wanted to see what kind of numb-nuts answer you would devise to avoid actually answering the question in the first place.

I always answer the questions.....you just dont like the answers no matter how truthful.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:49 am

DVD Burner wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
'cause i wanted to see what kind of numb-nuts answer you would devise to avoid actually answering the question in the first place.
I always answer the questions.....you just dont like the answers no matter how truthful.

this word comes to mind when referring to your answers.

Main Entry: fic·ti·tious
Pronunciation: fik-'ti-sh&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ficticius artificial, feigned, from fictus
1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of fiction : IMAGINARY
2 a : conventionally or hypothetically assumed or accepted <a fictitious concept> b of a name : FALSE, ASSUMED
3 : not genuinely felt
- fic·ti·tious·ly adverb
- fic·ti·tious·ness noun
synonyms FICTITIOUS, FABULOUS, LEGENDARY, MYTHICAL, APOCRYPHAL mean having the nature of something imagined or invented. FICTITIOUS implies fabrication and suggests artificiality or contrivance more than deliberate falsification or deception <fictitious characters>. FABULOUS stresses the marvelous or incredible character of something without necessarily implying impossibility or actual nonexistence <a land of fabulous riches>. LEGENDARY suggests the elaboration of invented details and distortion of historical facts produced by popular tradition <the legendary exploits of Davy Crockett>. MYTHICAL implies a purely fanciful explanation of facts or the creation of beings and events out of the imagination <mythical creatures>. APOCRYPHAL implies an unknown or dubious source or origin or may imply that the thing itself is dubious or inaccurate <a book that repeats many apocryphal stories>.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:01 pm

So.......when are you signing up for Iraq?

Soon I hope.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:37 pm

DVD Burner wrote:So.......when are you signing up for Iraq?
Soon I hope.

DVD Burnout, if you must know... because i am an officer, i remain on a list indefinately.

and you?

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:41 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:So.......when are you signing up for Iraq?
Soon I hope.
DVD Burnout, if you must know... because i am an officer, i remain on a list indefinately.

and you?

Ah Joel, you must realize the bravery and strength is takes to remain on the sidelines. Coupled with the agility to run when the action comes near, citizens as such will outbreed us all.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:43 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:So.......when are you signing up for Iraq?
Soon I hope.
DVD Burnout, if you must know... because i am an officer, i remain on a list indefinately.

and you?

Listen pal if you get called up, I will personally kidnap you and hold you in some undisclosed place to be waited upom hand and foot and other bodily needs by a swarm of Horny Burner Babes, that, or I'll blockade the train, plane, bus, or motorcycle that tries to take you....DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:20 pm

If Bush wins, I'll stick it out and scream my head off. If the opposition all light out for Canada or the Netherlands or wherever, then the country's really screwed.

If Bush wins, I'm going to start looking for an activist group that has "impeachment proceedings" in mind. I'll throw my lot in with a recall campaign and the first toe he steps out of line, put the heat on.

The good news is, Ashcroft is making noises that he'll walk out of the Cabinet, so one way or another tomorrow, we lose Ashcroft. [take a breath]

The other good news is, Kerry has most of New England (what was New Hampshire THINKING?!?!) and the contiguous Pacific Coast (what was Alaska THINKING?!?!?!?!?!??!). He leads in Oregon by seven points as of last night, Washington is favouring, California's a slam dunk. Florida's a toss-up but after the last election's debacle, I can't see them breaking towards Bush and I don't care if his brother's the governor. If they go for Bush again we'll have a solid case to suspect election corruption.

Twenty-eight hours to go, folks...Visualize President Kerry.

SilkenTofu · Post by **SilkenTofu** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:29 pm

diane o'thirst wrote:Visualize President Kerry.

I tried that and alls I came up with is John Kerry in a leather jock, bound and gagged, with his wife squirting ketchup on his chest.

now I want fries.

Silver 2 · Post by **Silver 2** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:51 pm

I tried that and alls I came up with is John Kerry in a leather jock, bound and gagged, with his wife squirting ketchup on his chest.

On that note:

http://davechase.net/presidential_horror_show.swf

Silver 2 · Post by **Silver 2** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:48 pm

While I am at it and feeling mean,

DVD Burner wrote:
So.......when are you signing up for Iraq?
Soon I hope.
DVD Burnout, if you must know... because i am an officer, i remain on a list indefinately.

and you?

You could always volunteer to be re-activated. I know this because dear old dad did during Gulf 1. He was moderately pissed that they turned him down due to his age at that time (around 74) on the other hand even at that time they were so short of trained men that they were taking volunteers in his primary MOS (diesel engineer) up to around 70. For someone who never talks about his war time experiences (I did not know that he had a Sliver and two Bronzes until I learned to read his ribbons) I think Bud kind of likes getting shot at. Only his third bronze (Nam) was for actually shooting at people and there he had no choice, I have no clue what the Presidential (Nam) was for. You too can have a draw full of shiny metals, BTW. Bud came back from Nam opposed to the war and thinks the current one is just as stupid. He has even stopped trying to talk my son into the Army and is now pushing the Coast Guard.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:11 pm

SilkenTofu wrote:
diane o'thirst wrote:Visualize President Kerry.
I tried that and alls I came up with is John Kerry in a leather jock, bound and gagged, with his wife squirting ketchup on his chest.

now I want fries.

i wish i had thought of that... but then again, i don't do subtle, well.

SilkenTofu · Post by **SilkenTofu** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:55 pm

Silver 2 wrote:
I tried that and alls I came up with is John Kerry in a leather jock, bound and gagged, with his wife squirting ketchup on his chest.
On that note:

http://davechase.net/presidential_horror_show.swf

Yay Silver...I will be singing that one at the polls tomorrow.

Seriously though I live in California and this state is Kerry bound(from what I understand). I was shocked to learn today that there are a couple women in our office who aren't going to vote tomorrow and aren't even registered. (We are County of Sacramento employees) It's their choice not to vote but I can't understand it. Is there anyone on Eplaya who just isn't going to vote?

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:55 pm

Live Webcam/Video .November 2 Election Day Fire Ceremony Streamed Live Here! http://www.brightpathvideo.com

Positive Prayer is the core of realized intention.
Positive prayer derives its unfailing energy from focused thought held to the desired feeling one wants to experience. Divine creative thought possesses no qualitative function, therefore for those in perfect or near perfect alignment with absolute energy, the power of the thought attracts like unto itself. Use the words "if", may", or "please", and you get if, may or please. Use the words "I know", "I call forth" or "I realize" and you are now in the realm of the cosmic idiom. Here now is our intention and prayer for this election. You may use it too.

There is nothing separate in this great mystery called life. We, plant and animal life, the oceans, rivers, mountains and cities are all connected by our ultimate sameness. As a voice for that sameness, that immutable unity, I call forth now into this particular creation called the United States of America, the nurturance, protection, and special love for all living things in the soul of all voters. All living things planet wide as well. I call forth this creation now and the forces and manifestations of love, love that cherishes all of the people and the environment of this planet, love that is manifested in those whose intention it is to honor all of life and by their policies do the highest good for everyone and everything. I know for the whole of creation that this is so. I claim the incredible happiness that accompanies this movement of life! I know for all of creation that the presidential candidate most closely matching this calling will be elected the next US president. The complex establishment of this truth I now offer into the Law of the universe where perfection and clarity take their unique and special course and for this I give great thanks and release this prayer with perfect confidence that its fulfillment is already accomplished!

And so it is!

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:16 pm

Thank you, CowboyAngel. In the rush and tumble of life in general, it can be easy to lose sight of the real goal.

Adding a "Kheper" ("let it be thus") to your intention.

As for the webcam — hah! We're having a broadcast of the election in the Lane County Fairgrounds tomorrow night. I'm watching the election from there!

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:28 am

For anyone intersted in seeing Sinclairs "Stolen Honor" here it is:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonMani ... nhonor.wmv

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:34 am

DVD Burner wrote:For anyone intersted in seeing Sinclairs "Stolen Honor" here it is:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonMani ... nhonor.wmv

pass...

i didn't watch Michael Moore's manipulation of facts, i won't start with this movie either.

samtzu · Post by **samtzu** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:06 am

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:For anyone intersted in seeing Sinclairs "Stolen Honor" here it is:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonMani ... nhonor.wmv
pass...

i didn't watch Michael Moore's manipulation of facts, i won't start with this movie either.

Yeah, it's a shame that Moore is allowed to get away with that crap. You sure don't see the administration, or any other responsible official, doing that sort of thing.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:12 am

samtzu wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:For anyone intersted in seeing Sinclairs "Stolen Honor" here it is:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonMani ... nhonor.wmv
pass...

i didn't watch Michael Moore's manipulation of facts, i won't start with this movie either.
Yeah, it's a shame that Moore is allowed to get away with that crap. You sure don't see the administration, or any other responsible official, doing that sort of thing.

touche'

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:31 am

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:For anyone intersted in seeing Sinclairs "Stolen Honor" here it is:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonMani ... nhonor.wmv
pass...

i didn't watch Michael Moore's manipulation of facts, i won't start with this movie either.

hey someone sent you a free ticket I heard.......

Q_ · Post by Q_ » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:05 am

The following are abreviated service notes for the leadership of the two
major political parties.

Democrats:

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.

* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.

* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.

* Al Gore: Enlisted US Army, 1969; served in Vietnam as a journalist.

* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.

* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.

* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,
Purple Hearts.

* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.

* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.

* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.

* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.

* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.

* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign
ribbons.

* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFC, Bronze Star,
Soldier's Medal.

* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and
Legion of Merit.

* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.

* Bill McBride: Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.

* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.

* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57

* Chuck Robb: Vietnam

* Howell Heflin: Silver Star

* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.

* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments.

* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.

* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953

* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.

* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII.

REPUBLICANS:

* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.

* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.

* Tom Delay: did not serve.

* Roy Blunt: did not serve.

* Bill Frist: did not serve.

* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.

* Rick Santorum: did not serve.

* Trent Lott: did not serve.

* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.

* Jeb Bush: did not serve.

* Karl Rove: did not serve.

* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee."

* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.

* Vin Weber: did not serve.

* Richard Perle: did not serve.

* Douglas Feith: did not serve.

* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.

* Richard Shelby: did not serve.

* Jon Kyl: did not serve.

* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.

* Christopher Cox: did not serve.

* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.

* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.

* George W. Bush: Received appointment into the Texas Air National Guard.
Failed to complete his entire obligation.

* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.

* Bob Dornan: Enlisted after Korean conflict had ended.

* Phil Gramm: did not serve.

* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and
Distinguished Flying Cross.

* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.

* John M. McHugh: did not serve.

* JC Watts: did not serve.

* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.

* Dan Quayle: served in a journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.

* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.

* George Pataki: did not serve.

* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.

* John Engler: did not serve.

* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.

* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.

GOOD LEADERSHIP BEGINS WITH THE EXAMPLE OF WILLINGESS, SACRIFICE AND COMMITMENT.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:06 am

cowboyangel wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:For anyone intersted in seeing Sinclairs "Stolen Honor" here it is:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonMani ... nhonor.wmv
pass...

i didn't watch Michael Moore's manipulation of facts, i won't start with this movie either.
hey someone sent you a free ticket I heard.......

yeah, i must mail those funds back...

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:10 am

Q_ wrote:GOOD LEADERSHIP BEGINS WITH THE EXAMPLE OF WILLINGESS, SACRIFICE AND COMMITMENT.

Melvin Joel Weidinger 1979-1999... Illinois Army National Guard.
85-99 Fulltime Illinois Army National Guard.
97-98 Active Duty in support of Bosnia-Herzgovinia.

hey Q and anyone else, what about your service time?

Q_ · Post by Q_ » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:13 am

Simply Joel wrote: hey Q and anyone else, what about your service time?

I didn't serve.

SilkenTofu · Post by **SilkenTofu** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:18 am

[quote="Simply Joel]hey Q and anyone else, what about your service time?[/quote]

George Michael Lotz

Service Time - None

reason - they asked and I told (I was too scared being a bit on the swishy side, I would have been everyones secret "girlfriend")

My partner was in the Marines from 1986 to 1994 and was part of Desert Storm.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:24 am

I dont quite agree with the way the Military is run otherwise I would enjoy doing it. I like physical things and they have the best equipment.

Already lived it through my brother. That's enough.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:30 am

What.........you thought that was funny?

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:34 am

brick throwing glass house residents!

diane o'thirst · Post by **diane o'thirst** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:34 am

When I was in my twenties I thought about enlisting in the National Guard. When we hit Libya a bunch of my friends and I got jacked up and some of them volunteered for the National Guard and the Army. I never quite got my act together enough to follow them, though.

I did entertain the notion to maybe join the Cavalry, because some divisions still work with horses in ceremonial capacities. You know, ride in parades, funerals, guard duty at national monuments, things like that. The one thing I liked about Reagan is he was an equestrian, too — dressage, no less. He had a Passier saddle and it was on the horse at his funeral.

samtzu · Post by **samtzu** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:38 am

Simply Joel wrote:
Q_ wrote:GOOD LEADERSHIP BEGINS WITH THE EXAMPLE OF WILLINGESS, SACRIFICE AND COMMITMENT.
Melvin Joel Weidinger 1979-1999... Illinois Army National Guard.
85-99 Fulltime Illinois Army National Guard.
97-98 Active Duty in support of Bosnia-Herzgovinia.

hey Q and anyone else, what about your service time?

Personal service means dick, unless you are running for the office of Commander in Chief. The last two presidents both skipped on Vietnam, even though they had a 'chance to serve'. I agree with Q's quote and would suggest a careful study of which of the candidates has approached that standard.

And then cast your vote for Richard Nixon, who fulfilled all of those requirements.